Did Ancient Pakistanis Defeated The Mighty Alexander The Great.,

[Rafi]

But then the majority population of your country was not living in the Indus valley. How can the identity of a country leave out majority of the population.

That is why they have their own country now, and we wish them the best of luck, it was partly because of cultural difference why there was a break up, and also due to indian treachery.

Indus Valley Civilization = Ancient Pakistan = Geographic Pakistan = Modern PAKISTAN

 

[Rafi]

what about the millions of people who travelled from here to there and from there to here during the great divide???

Can they claim the same??

Of course the people who decided to move and live in Pakistan can claim its heritage, just as an immigrant to America who moves there and becomes a naturalised citizen can claim Thomas Jefferson and George Washington as his own.

And people who migrated away if they feel they are part of the IVC aka Geographic Pakistan they are welcome to feel part of our distinct civilization

 

[SpArK]

@Rafi- I Am still waiting for ur answer.

what about the millions of people who travelled from here to there and from there to here during the great divide???

Can they claim the same??

Their population might have increased many fold times from initial millions in 60+ years.. what will be their claim?

 

[Rig Vedic]

That is why they have their own country now, and we wish them the best of luck, it was partly because of cultural difference why there was a break up, and also due to indian treachery.

Indus Valley Civilization = Ancient Pakistan = Geographic Pakistan = Modern PAKISTAN

So, if majority of the population were not in the Indus valley, then what was the identity on the basis of which which Pakistan was demanded by Jinnah?

 

[Kinetic]

That is why they have their own country now, and we wish them the best of luck, it was partly because of cultural difference why there was a break up, and also due to indian treachery.

Indus Valley Civilization = Ancient Pakistan = Geographic Pakistan = Modern PAKISTAN

Just writing in big font's do make your words true. Learn the true meaning of Indus and India. There was nothing Pakistani before the partition as mentioned by many and they were Indians. Also Indus valley civilization extends to India as well with many sites in India... like Lothal and Kalibangan.

 

[SpArK]

Of course the people who decided to move and live in Pakistan can claim its heritage, just as an immigrant to America who moves there and becomes a naturalised citizen can claim Thomas Jefferson and George Washington as his own.

And people who migrated away if they feel they are part of the IVC aka Geographic Pakistan they are welcome to feel part of our distinct civilization

So we can assume there will be a lot of people here in India, who can claim that Indus valley civilisation is their's , as much like any person there.

 

[Rafi]

I do not understand the indian obsession with us, most Pakistanis are perfectly happy in their own skin, we know our past and present and have a clear idea of our future. We see no contradiction in loving the IVC and also loving MBQ, Babur, Gauri etc.

 

[Rafi]

So we can assume there will be a lot of people here in India, who can claim that Indus valley civilisation is their's , as much like any person there.

Only if they acknowledge that it is distinct and that it is Geographic Pakistan. No Pakistani claims bharat as its own.

 

[SpArK]

I do not understand the indian obsession with us, most Pakistanis are perfectly happy in their own skin, we know our past and present and have a clear idea of our future. We see no contradiction in loving the IVC and also loving MBQ, Babur, Gauri etc.

Talk on the topic please..... obsession thread was closed earlier.

 

[SpArK]

Only if they acknowledge that it is distinct and that it is Geographic Pakistan. No Pakistani claims bharat as its own.

We dont claim the same too..

But the whole region was divided into subcultures and sub kingdoms.

It was never a single entity. the maps keep changing.


oops i forgot the flaggy

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[Rig Vedic]

I do not understand the indian obsession with us, most Pakistanis are perfectly happy in their own skin, we know our past and present and have a clear idea of our future. We see no contradiction in loving the IVC and also loving MBQ, Babur, Gauri etc.

All these invaders slaughtered millions of people and destroyed thousands of temples in the Indus Valley area.

Finally, most of the people living there lost their religion.

By the way, you should definitely respond the question in post #325

 

[Rafi]

The Indus provides the key water resources for the economy of Pakistan - especially the Breadbasket of Punjab province, which accounts for most of the nation's agricultural production, and Sindh. The word Punjab is a \ word panj meaning Five, and āb meaning Water, giving the literal meaning of the Land of the Five Rivers. The Five rivers after which Punjab is named are the Jhelum, Chenab, Ravi, Beas and the Sutlej. The river also supports many heavy industries and provides the main supply of potable water in Pakistan.

The Indus's name is Sindh, what does it have to do with a religion, it is a geographically based river, what does it have to do with your Ganges based country. LoL

 

[Kinetic]

I do not understand the indian obsession with us, most Pakistanis are perfectly happy in their own skin, we know our past and present and have a clear idea of our future. We see no contradiction in loving the IVC and also loving MBQ, Babur, Gauri etc.

Reply to my post if you can. Its not obsession but you claim something that belongs to us as well.

Watch the video....

YouTube - 1 - Najam Sethi Special 2010.11.02

 

[Rafi]

We dont claim the same too..

But the whole region was divided into subcultures and sub kingdoms.

It was never a single entity. the maps keep changing.


oops i forgot the flaggy

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Thanks for the flaggy buddy, respect you for that

How can someone living in Kerala - claim the Indus Valley it is beyond me, there was no cultural similarity Punjabis, Kashmiris Pashtoon, Baluchi, Hazara have about much in common with someone from Kerala as we have with the French. LoL

 

[riju78]

The Indus provides the key water resources for the economy of Pakistan - especially the Breadbasket of Punjab province, which accounts for most of the nation's agricultural production, and Sindh. The word Punjab is a \ word panj meaning Five, and āb meaning Water, giving the literal meaning of the Land of the Five Rivers. The Five rivers after which Punjab is named are the Jhelum, Chenab, Ravi, Beas and the Sutlej. The river also supports many heavy industries and provides the main supply of potable water in Pakistan.

if u read a bit down after the above lines in wiki u will see this

The name Indus is used in Arrian's Indica for the mighty river crossed by Alexander, based on Nearchus's contemporaneous account. "Indus" is a Hellenic derivative of the Iranian Hindu, in turn derived from Sindhu, the name of the Indus in the Rigveda. The Sanskrit Sindhu generically means river, stream, ocean, probably from a root sidh meaning to keep off; Sindhu is attested 176 times in the Rigveda, 95 times in the plural, more often used in the generic meaning. Already in the Rigveda, notably in the later hymns, the meaning of the word is narrowed to refer to the Indus river in particular, for example in the list of rivers of the Nadistuti sukta. This resulted in the anomaly of a river with masculine gender: all other Rigvedic rivers are female, not just grammatically, being imagined as goddesses and compared to cows and mares yielding milk and butter.