Dhaka – a fast changing agglomeration

[bd_4_ever]

^^ Back in Dubai, I once picked up a pretty Indian girl in the metro and took her to date within a week. Later she wanted to get serious but I didnt. So kinda left it there and just remained connected on FB.

Not much of a difference when it comes to Bangladeshi girls as well. I would reckon sub-continent women are the best to have a family with.

 

[Michael Corleone]

LOL, economist liveability index will roast these trolls (incl OP) more than I ever could.

Dhaka....barely more liveable than outright warzones and Lagos! Give em a hand folks!

I always boasted about this from childhood but I will say again. If there's someone who can change the face of Dhaka and also make Bangladesh a economic powerhouse. It's me.
Not going into politics anyways so that won't happen.... at least not for Bangladesh

 

[Homo Sapiens]

Yah, sometime I behave shit... Anyway, you guys should delete your posts too...

Done.

 

[Species]

Check out this video and watch it till the end!

I had created a thread on this.

https://defence.pk/threads/why-cities-are-where-they-are.472917/

 

[Homo Sapiens]

Check out this video and watch it till the end!

I had created a thread on this.

https://defence.pk/threads/why-cities-are-where-they-are.472917/

Thank you for sharing this very entertaining and educational video.I always suspected that Bangladesh is the most optimum place in the world to live and develop a vibrant civilization.It was true for most of the known history.Every ancient and medieval travelers who traveled in this region described how plentiful this country is,how much pleasant and easy living here,pleasant climate, abundance of living materials.How people lived here comfortably.Early European traders used to say 'Bengal have thousands of gate to enter but none to leave.'

Another thing to point out,Dhaka is not only the the most optimum place to built a city in the world but also it locate at the center of Bangladesh.So I believe this city will grow enormously in the coming decades.It is quite possible to become the largest city in the world.

 

[Mage]

In the future Dhaka might very well be the busiest city in the planet but I doubt it will ever be much liveable

 

[Allah Akbar]

LOL, economist liveability index will roast these trolls (incl OP) more than I ever could.

Dhaka....barely more liveable than outright warzones and Lagos! Give em a hand folks!

Off topic question, how was your and your gf aungjaya valentine day

 

[livingdead]

Thank you for sharing this very entertaining and educational video.I always suspected that Bangladesh is the most optimum place in the world to live and develop a vibrant civilization.It was true for most of the known history.Every ancient and medieval travelers who traveled in this region described how plentiful this country is,how much pleasant and easy living here,pleasant climate, abundance of living materials.How people lived here comfortably.Early European traders used to say 'Bengal have thousands of gate to enter but none to leave.'

Another thing to point out,Dhaka is not only the the most optimum place to built a city in the world but also it locate at the center of Bangladesh.So I believe this city will grow enormously in the coming decades.It is quite possible to become the largest city in the world.

the reasons why civilization started near rivers no longer affects desirability of the place, humanity has advanced in agri tech and transport, you no longer need to live near fertile land or river... It does not rank high in desirability, Its hot and humid. and not pleasant at all compared to all other places we have found to build cities across the world.
Optimum place to live in the world? how?

 

[Homo Sapiens]

In the future Dhaka might very well be the busiest city in the planet but I doubt it will ever be much liveable

Livability can be dramatically improved with economic development.Tokyo contain twice the population of Dhaka,but its livability is very high,because Japan is a developed country.If Bangladesh can become developed like Japan than there is no reason why Dhaka can not become like Tokyo.

 

[Homo Sapiens]

the reasons why civilization started near rivers no longer affects desirability of the place, humanity has advanced in agri tech and transport, you no longer need to live near fertile land or river... It does not rank high in desirability, Its hot and humid. and not pleasant at all compared to all other places we have found to build cities across the world.
Optimum place to live in the world? how?

Dhaka's mean temperature is 26.1 degree C.Record high 42.2 degree C. and record low 6.1 degree C.It rarely goes above more than 40 degree C. or below 10 degree celsius.Average humidity is 57% a lot less than Miami(73.2%).So Dhaka's climate is not that terrible.Different people find different climate problematic.You find humidity a problem but many people will consider sub-zero temperature day after day problematic.We never experienced sub zero temperature or very hot temperature of 45-50 degree C.

Another thing you ignored,best climate is not the only criteria for founding a city with best location.This video is not about best climate to live in rather best place for the development of human civilization.Remember in the last part of video it was said,'if humanity have to start all over again which should be the most ideal place to start with?' or most logical choice to establish a city if there is no city in the world? Experts says Canary Islands have the best climate,but you can't develop flourishing civilization in an arid desert island without agriculture,water source,good natural transport system,easy access to natural resource.Canary Islands became possible because there is already exist Spain and Europe.So Bangladesh may have some what inferior climate to Canary Islands but it is the best place to develop large scale human civilization.Bangladesh is already a testament to this.It is the most densely populated country in the world.It contain more than 2 percent of world population in 0.1 percent of landmass.It would not have been possible if there is not any inherent advantage to this place.This region was always densely populated and prosperous.We are not currently prosperous.Gap is created in the last 200 years due to industrial, scientific revolution in the west.But gap is closing between east and west and I think it will take another 50-100 years to close this gap.Then it will not sound so peculiar about the notion of being Bangladesh is the most ideal place to develop a large thriving urban civilization.

 

[livingdead]

Dhaka's mean temperature is 26.1 degree C.Record high 42.2 degree C. and record low 6.1 degree C.It rarely goes above more than 40 degree C. or below 10 degree celsius.Average humidity is 57% a lot less than Miami(73.2%).So Dhaka's climate is not that terrible.Different people find different climate problematic.You find humidity a problem but many people will consider sub-zero temperature day after day problematic.We never experienced sub zero temperature or very hot temperature of 45-50 degree C.

Another thing you ignored,best climate is not the only criteria.This video is not about best climate to live in rather best place for the development of human civilization.Remember in the last part of video it was said,'if humanity have to start all over again which should be the most ideal place to start with? Experts says Canary Islands have the best climate,but you can't develop flourishing civilization in a arid desert island without agriculture,water source,good natural transport system,easy access to natural resource.Canary Islands became possible because there is already exist Spain and Europe.So Bangladesh may have some what inferior climate to Canary Islands but it is the best place to develop large scale human civilization.Bangladesh is already a testament to this.It is the most densely populated country in the world.It contain more than 2 percent of world population in 0.1 percent of landmass.It would not have been possible if there is not any inherent advantage to this place.This region was always densely populated and prosperous.We are not currently prosperous.Gap is created in the last 200 years due to industrial, scientific revolution in the west.But gap is closing between east and west and I think it will take another 50-100 years to close this gap.Then it will not sound so peculiar about the notion of being Bangladesh is the most ideal place to develop a large thriving urban civilization.

I think you and I are not talking about same thing.. I am not saying bd is not ideal place if we lose all technical knowhow in some catastrophic event.. of course we will have to start with a place that gives basic necessity life food and rudimentary transport.. and bd is a good candidate like other similar areas.
But at this point, considering the progress we have, food availability is hardly a problem.
The reason I talked about weather is because bd could be a rich country tomorrow(and it will be unfair to compare dhaka with other places on other parameters as it stands now), but still Dhaka wont be 'optimum' place.... I would like to know which other places you considered and rejected in that ranking.

BD has high population density because it started early... and it can support more population due to fertile land(although very low consumption level) but why live next to fertlile land? Why not send machines(in future) to cultivate those land in hot and humid condition, sometimes tropical storm.. while rest of us do something better living in nicer places... why not live in temperate climate like bangalore... or may be middle of nowhere.. modern transport makes sure everything is stocked up.

 

[Homo Sapiens]

I think you and I are not talking about same thing.. I am not saying bd is not ideal place if we lose all technical knowhow in some catastrophic event.. of course we will have to start with a place that gives basic necessity life food and rudimentary transport.. and bd is a good candidate like other similar areas.
But at this point, considering the progress we have, food availability is hardly a problem.
The reason I talked about weather is because bd could be a rich country tomorrow(and it will be unfair to compare dhaka with other places on other parameters as it stands now), but still Dhaka wont be 'optimum' place.... I would like to know which other places you considered and rejected in that ranking.

BD has high population density because it started early... and it can support more population due to fertile land(although very low consumption level) but why live next to fertlile land? Why not send machines(in future) to cultivate those land in hot and humid condition, sometimes tropical storm.. while rest of us do something better living in nicer places... why not live in temperate climate like bangalore... or may be middle of nowhere.. modern transport makes sure everything is stocked up.

Even if some place have a great climate to live in other factors will nullify it from becoming the most populous urban center even in future.Great urban center flourish and will flourish at the cross roads among easy water borne transportation hub,center of trade and commerce,large population nearby,easy availability of food,water and other necessities.You can built large urban center in middle of desert by using modern technology,but there is a limit,water constrain will hamper growth after a certain period,not to mention the prohibitive cost of all basic necessity as most of the things will have to import from a long distance.This is one example.

Bangalore may have good climate to live in but I think Mumbai will always be most popular among the Indian to live in due to so many other factors,Bangalore can not suppress Mumbai in either economy,size or in importance, comparative cost benefit analysis will not allow it against Mumbai.Easy water borne transportation is a great factor to influence the development of cities,even now and future.99 percent global trade happen with water transportation and cost increases with each kilometer distance from the coast or river port.It is no coincidence that most of the large urban center happen to be in such places.Dhaka is the most optimum place in this regards.It is the center of most dense population in the world,easy access to sea by Ganga-Brahmaputra river system, have great mighty rivers surrounding it,good source to have water for tens of millions of people as well as a acts a barrier to any land based invasion.Food, water,clothing,housing materials can be transported to it from a short distance and in scale that other place will find it hard to match in cost effective ways.Surrounding dense population will ensure it to be a center of trade and commerce resulting in big growth.It is also at the center of half the global population and sufficiently near to future largest economy in the world,namely China,India and South East Asia.So I see Dhaka is a great population and economic hub waiting to be happen.

I would like to know which other places you considered and rejected in that ranking.

Most optimum location are already mega urban areas.I think,other than Dhaka other optimum places are Shanghai,Guangzhou-Shenzhen-Hong Kong agglomeration,Tokyo,Mumbai,Cairo,Istanbul,Lagos,London,Buenos Aires etc.

 

[livingdead]

Even if some place have a great climate to live in other factors will nullify it from becoming the most populous urban center even in future.Great urban center flourish and will flourish at the cross roads among easy water borne transportation hub,center of trade and commerce,large population nearby,easy availability of food,water and other necessities.You can built large urban center in middle of desert by using modern technology,but there is a limit,water constrain will hamper growth after a certain period,not to mention the prohibitive cost of all basic necessity as most of the things will have to import from a long distance.This is one example.

Bangalore may have good climate to live in but I think Mumbai will always be most popular among the Indian to live in due to so many other factors,Bangalore can not suppress Mumbai in either economy,size or in importance, comparative cost benefit analysis will not allow it against Mumbai.Easy water borne transportation is a great factor to influence the development of cities,even now and future.99 percent global trade happen with water transportation and cost increases with each kilometer distance from the coast or river port.It is no coincidence that most of the large urban center happen to be in such places.Dhaka is the most optimum place in this regards.It is the center of most dense population in the world,easy access to sea by Ganga-Brahmaputra river system, have great mighty rivers surrounding it,good source to have water for tens of millions of people as well as a acts a barrier to any land based invasion.Food, water,clothing,housing materials can be transported to it from a short distance and in scale that other place will find it hard to match in cost effective ways.Surrounding dense population will ensure it to be a center of trade and commerce resulting in big growth.It is also at the center of half the global population and sufficiently near to future largest economy in the world,namely China,India and South East Asia.So I see Dhaka is a great population and economic hub waiting to be happen.

Most optimum location are already mega urban areas.I think,other than Dhaka other optimum places are Shanghai,Guangzhou-Shenzhen-Hong Kong agglomeration,Tokyo,Mumbai,Cairo,Istanbul,Lagos,London,Buenos Aires etc.

why urban water transport is important? This is not 1800s.. you seem to be constrained by nationalism and starting from dhaka and working backwards... road/rail transport tech has improved leaps and bounds since then. We are talking about 'place to live' not trading ports, let some people live in ports and get goods for us...
Why local food is so important, are we waiting from some apocalypse? A lot of produce we get here are from spain, holland and france, you wont know unless you check the country of origin. Yes fresh vegetables.... you can find grains and pulses from across the world.
mumbai is an island and certainly not an 'optimum' place to live, either now or future. You can imagine dhaka being tokyo but cant imagine Bangalore being the same with excellent high speed transport that will make sure goods and services are delivered efficiently. If I can think of bangalore am pretty sure there are other candidates in asia and latin america to choose from all 'optimum' place to live(may be not big now), just that I am not born there so I am ignorant, or may be I am too constrained by nationalism..

The question to ask yourself is this 'if I have to build a brand new city with current tech, and I have resource, where will I build'. If the answer is still Dhaka, well, I cant really argue against that..

 

[Homo Sapiens]

why urban water transport is important? This is not 1800s.. you seem to be constrained by nationalism and starting from dhaka and working backwards... road/rail transport tech has improved leaps and bounds since then. We are talking about 'place to live' not trading ports, let some people live in ports and get goods for us...
Why local food is so important, are we waiting from some apocalypse? A lot of produce we get here are from spain, holland and france, you wont know unless you check the country of origin. Yes fresh vegetables.... you can find grains and pulses from across the world.
mumbai is an island and certainly not an 'optimum' place to live, either now or future. You can imagine dhaka being tokyo but cant imagine Bangalore being the same with excellent high speed transport that will make sure goods and services are delivered efficiently. If I can think of bangalore am pretty sure there are other candidates in asia and latin america to choose from all 'optimum' place to live(may be not big now), just that I am not born there so I am ignorant, or may be I am too constrained by nationalism..

The question to ask yourself is this 'if I have to build a brand new city with current tech, and I have resource, where will I build'. If the answer is still Dhaka, well, I cant really argue against that..

You have misunderstood entire thing.I am not questioning about your ability or freedom to choose any location you want to settle.What is convenient for a small group of people to live is not equally effective for tens of millions of people.You can't recreate Shanghai or Tokyo in Canary Islands, supposedly the best climate in the world.Economy will not allow that.You as a millionaire can choose any location you consider most suitable to live, distance,cost will be no problem.But it will be problem when you uproot 30 million people from a location like Shanghai and place them to a location like Canary Islands.There is a reason why some are mega cities with 20-30 million people while other have only few thousands.Places like thousands mile inland are comparatively disadvantaged. land-locked is considered a big handicap.Can you tell me why eastern China is the center of great economic growth while western China is a economic backwater?

Most of the people do not live where they want to live but where they have to live.This is true even in this era of air plane and bullet train.Suppose you work in London but want to live in Barcelona as you consider Barcelona to be a better place to live.Will it be possible to commute daily between London and Barcelona?If you are a millionaire with farm determination,perhaps you can,but it is not true for other 99.9% percent of people.

I am not lengthening this discussion any longer.hope you understood some of my point.

 

[Al-zakir]

^^ Back in Dubai, I once picked up a pretty Indian girl in the metro and took her to date within a week. Later she wanted to get serious but I didnt. So kinda left it there and just remained connected on FB.

Not much of a difference when it comes to Bangladeshi girls as well. I would reckon sub-continent women are the best to have a family with.

Hypocrite, aren't you.. BD 4 ever but live in Dubai, but I ain't mad. Get it how you live