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DGISPR's press release on Imran Khan's address (Nov 04, 2022)تم قاتلانہ حملہ برداشت کرو ‏ہم اپنی توہین برداشت نہیں کریں گے ‏آرڈر سن لیا غلامو !

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Lullian daikhnay ki lut in ko East Pakistan main pari hai.
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Lullian daikhnay ki lut in ko East Pakistan main pari hai.
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It’s kind of sad that we didn’t get to see something like Nuremberg trial after 1971. At least Pakistan would get to face the realities of its most popular institution. Without facing those realities, the machinations of the institution will only remain hidden and at best speculative. At this point, nothing short of a truth and reconciliation commission can save the country.
 
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Any press release for this from anyone ?

INDIA

Fully prepared to take control of Pakistan administered Kashmir: Indian Amry​

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November 2, 2022
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Indian armed forces deployed near Line of Control in Kashmir. [File Photo]
Srinagar: Chinar Corps Commander Lt Gen ADS Aujla said the Indian army is fully prepared to take control of Pakistan-administered Kashmir and the forces are ready for any action on orders from the government of India.
Aujla was interacting with journalists in Srinagar on Rajnath Sigh’s comments that the BJP-led Government of India will merge the Pakistan-administered Kashmir with India.
“Whenever the Central Government takes such a decision, orders will come to us and in such a situation, we are fully prepared. Apart from our conventional strength, we are also strengthening ourselves modernly, so that we do not have to look back in such a situation,” Lt Gen Aujla said.


Bhartis mazaay le re he. They know if they made that mistake they would get ripped apart by charged up awam alone.
 
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Bhartis mazaay le re he. They know if they made that mistake they would get ripped apart by charged up awam alone.

Yes . Remember Indian pilot was brutally beaten dragged around like a dog and would have been gruesomely murdered by local awaam until Pak Army saved his *** .
 
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They exchange Intel when they're told by their higher-ups. ISI does not work *under* alongside *local authorities*. Regardless of their location, they are not obliged to fall under local govt.
They work alongside..and they share files with each other.. you are only negating a basic tenant of their working just because it doesn't fit well in your story.

ایک تو تم لوگوں کو ابا بننے کا بہت شوق ہے۔ تم سمجھتے ہو بس تم میں ہی عقل ہے اور باقی بیوقوف ہیں۔ بلو کھسری نے سہی بولا تھا کے تم لوگ ایف اے پاس ڈفرز ہو جن کو حالات کا کوی ادراک نہیں ہے۔
دنیا میں بڑے بڑے انبیا اور صحابہ اور زاہد گزار لوگ آے لیکن کسی نے نہیں کہا کے میں احتساب سے بالاتر ہوں۔ یہ تو اسلام کا بنیادی اصول ہے کے انصاف سب کے لیے برابر ہونا چاہے لیکن تم لوگ اس اصول کو نہیں مانتے۔
پچھتر سال سے جو جھوٹ بولے جا رہے ہو اب پھر وہی جھوٹ دہرا رہے ہو۔ عمران خان کے دور میں ڈیفالٹ کا کوی خطرہ نہیں تھا اور اس وقت ہمارے فارن ریزرو بھی زیادہ تھے۔ آج فارن ریزرو سب سے کم ترین سطح پر ہیں لیکن ڈیفالٹ کا خطرہ ٹل گیا ہے۔۔۔۔یہ کون سی ساینس ہے؟

کبھی کبھار انڈیا کے آرمی چیف پر رشک آتا ہے کے بیشک دو روٹی کم کھاتا ہے لیکن عزت سے جیتا ہے۔ تم لوگوں کی طرح چند ٹکوں کے لیے اپنے ملک کو نہیں بیچتا۔

مجھے تو سمجھ نہیں آتی یہ سارے غدار ہمارے حصے میں ہی کیوں آتے ہیں۔ آخر کیا مسلہ ہے ہماری مٹی میں کے ملک پر جان دینے والے اب پیدا نہیں ہوتے۔
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It’s kind of sad that we didn’t get to see something like Nuremberg trial after 1971. At least Pakistan would get to face the realities of its most popular institution. Without facing those realities, the machinations of the institution will only remain hidden and at best speculative. At this point, nothing short of a truth and reconciliation commission can save the country.

There were going to be trials and whatnot, but the powers that be sealed up the Hamoodur Rahman Commission. Many military high-ups and even Bhutto were named as both were responsible parties and should be prosecuted.
 
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They work alongside..and they share files with each other.. you are only negating a basic tenant of their working just because it doesn't fit well in your story.


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My friend, sharing partial intel doesn't mean ISI is going to work under provincial government or authorities. ANY Federal department or agency even if its the Federal Medical Research Dpt, it won't work under provincial govt despite it's presence in a province. ISI sharing partial intel with anyone else doesn't make the obliged to follow orders from local govt. You've seriously no idea what you're talking about. Learn about Provincial and Federal departments.
 
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In the age of mobile devices and social media, even illiterate villagers are witnessing what these thieves are actually doing.

I’ll give you an example. My nana was a very pious zamindaar. Haaji saab they called him. Tilled the soil, never had an education and taught himself how to read from newspapers at the age of 11.

He used to support noon league back in the 90’s. Religious guy, so to him Nawaz Sharif sounded like a pious guy. ‘Sharif’...

Never had any exposure to the party or politics except for some stories in the newspapers.

Let me tell you...If my nana were alive today, he would have been the first one advocating for hanging NS...

Noonies can control pemra... but god bless the internet.


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Facts brother

Same with Pashtuns especially Pashtun women from rural areas, a lot of people have smartphones now. Unfortunately a lot of these women aren't educated but due to the power of the internet they too are now in the know about the establishment.

This is what happens when you are fossil-like and think bans on PEMRA will work now.

It is just so that the system actually weeded us out - it is designed that way. So I was never “Pakistani” in my mind in the first place so the system forced me to leave or resign myself to conforming - I was lucky enough to escape and therefore came to where my mindset fits.
In a way, I was never Pakistani to let the Pakistani system accept me - perhaps you should preach the same to your son.

You are suggesting that it is by design they weed out the talent and high-iq people of Pakistan?
 
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I can predict many people turning against the federation, specially the young generation.

It is already happening. Many Pakistani Pashtun diaspora youth are starting to hate Pakistan, when a year ago they were defending it. Many people I know have taken off Pakistani flags from their social media bios.

I tried telling this forum many things but I just get shouted down...
 
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In the age of mobile devices and social media, even illiterate villagers are witnessing what these thieves are actually doing.

I’ll give you an example. My nana was a very pious zamindaar. Haaji saab they called him. Tilled the soil, never had an education and taught himself how to read from newspapers at the age of 11.

He used to support noon league back in the 90’s. Religious guy, so to him Nawaz Sharif sounded like a pious guy. ‘Sharif’...

Never had any exposure to the party or politics except for some stories in the newspapers.

Let me tell you...If my nana were alive today, he would have been the first one advocating for hanging NS...

Noonies can control pemra... but god bless the internet.


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Many people supported N league for relgious reasons back in the day cause PPP socialist, liberal Kaffir

Sharif on the other hand was from a regioios family, connections with tableeghi jamaat

Say the same thing today and people will laugh at you

Honestly TLP and PTI is taking that conservative relgious vote bank from PMLn

But without PTI, it's TLP all the way imo, they can form a government as they mature if PTI isn't there cause no one thinks Sharifs are the relgious saints they presented themselves as back in the day
 
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You are suggesting that it is by design they weed out the talent and high-iq people of Pakistan?
Pakistan is simply not an accommodating environment for visionaries and intellectual people. It is a society where you thrive by having connections (political, military), lots of $$$ to offer, or engage in corruption yourself.

Also when you're running a pseudo-dictatorship that leeches off the people, there's only a limited amount of people that can steal from public funds because personal greed plays a role, but also to keep the corruption circle tight-knit. Some may be morally just and patriotic, so there's a risk of the system being challenged, example IK.

In the end its just easier dealing with majority yes-men to uphold the structure, and allow "some exceptions that... keep the momentum going and some thought leadership growth.".

Our biggest enemy is ourself.

[Also a social culture of massive selfish ego where higher-ups refuse to accept someone is more competent than them and fear their position and authority being challenged]
 
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Precisely. They have centuries of tradition and training behind them. This army was established just after 1857, when Queen took over charge from East India Company.
Before that, at the battle of Plassey with Mir Jaffers forces. In 1857 they got rid of the left over patriots, what remained is now the colonial sepoys of napak army.
 
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