DG ISPR withdraws tweet on Dawnleaks????

[Zibago]

Take permission from Sahab Bahadur then report can b published.Other wise they will start crying "Nation security is breached". You know their "Tarika a Wardat"

Apna palto lagaya hay chawlain na maro

 

[Sunan]

Apna palto lagaya hay chawlain na maro

General kisi ka palto nai hota meri jaan.Tumhari knowledge ka isi say andaza hota hai.Jb DGISPR keh skta hai PM ko k "Notification is rejected".Is say pata chalta hai k us Instituations k sahab bahaduron ki kya soch hai.Har PM bachara Yargamal hota hai sahab bahadur ka.By the way Tweet ki wapsi pr tum kyun soog mana rahay ho.Jali kya meray bhai ki

 

[Guvera]

Obviously, the military may function like a monolith but it is composed of individuals and they do have their own opinions. I for one was opposed to the the matter on the very first day when this dreaded tweet was sent out. I noted then that these are institutional matters and cannot be consigned to public 180 characters, they have to be resolved through official channels. They goofed up when they decided to pressurize the government by polarizing public opinion between those who support the military and those who support the government. Statecraft doesn't work that way.
As a result of that goof up, public trust in the institution has suffered. Our people are very sentimental, even towards the end of Musharraf's tenure when the military's public image was at its lowest ebb, I had to travel in civvies and change into the uniform when in office because the public and specifically lawyers would pelt our cars with stones. I'd rather not see that happening again. Imagine a person fresh out of combat having to go through that, its not easy.



Unfortunately the nation at the moment is suffering from the effects of institutional immaturity and overlap. Over the decades, the military has filled in for almost all institutions in Pakistan. The civilian institutions don't do their job and the military comes and does it for them, that's how its worked for the longest of times.
Now, the courts are simply shirking their responsibility by passing the buck onto JITs, the JITs are then passing the buck onto the the military representatives in the JITs. The report's contents are not being released to the public and the public in turn, tired of waiting, no longer want justice, they have already conducted their own media trial, identified their own criminals and already decided on their punishment.
They now want the military to reaffirm their bias on the matter and the fact that the military is unable to do so because it lacks the constitutional authority, makes the matter increasingly complex. The military tried to compensate by showing the people it was on their side by making the dreaded "rejected" tweet but it backfired spectacularly and now there's a massive breach of trust; with the public reduced to a swirling mass of hate and loathing.
Meanwhile, Ajit Doval must be amazed at how easy his job was made by our own self-destruct mechanism.

The long term solution for the problems and issues that u have mentioned above is the competent civilian government which wont require military to assist and help them in matters related to civilian government, as long as we dont have a competent and clean civilian government this circus will continue in one way or the other.

 

[Icarus]

The long term solution for the problems and issues that u have mentioned above is the competent civilian government which wont require military to assist and help them in matters related to civilian government, as long as we dont have a competent and clean civilian government this circus will continue in one way or the other.

Indeed, and therein lies the dilemma.
One school of thought states that, theoretically speaking, democracy is a product of trial and error. Each successive government will be better than the last as people recognize and start exercising their right to suffrage more seriously in addition to demanding greater transparency and accountability. Slowly, the system should self-correct towards a full-democracy.
The other school of thought postulates that a flawed democracy will forever remain a flawed democracy and will only become institutionalized over time. The only solution to a corrupt government that fails to represent the people is its removal through the ballot, civil unrest or war and the institution of a new government in its place which is inline with the expectations and aspirations of the people.
The question then presents itself, which of these routes must Pakistan take? We have tried the second a number of time but have always ended back on square one.

 

[Guvera]

Indeed, and therein lies the dilemma.
One school of thought states that, theoretically speaking, democracy is a product of trial and error. Each successive government will be better than the last as people recognize and start exercising their right to suffrage more seriously in addition to demanding greater transparency and accountability. Slowly, the system should self-correct towards a full-democracy.
The other school of thought postulates that a flawed democracy will forever remain a flawed democracy and will only become institutionalized over time. The only solution to a corrupt government that fails to represent the people is its removal through the ballot, civil unrest or war and the institution of a new government in its place which is inline with the expectations and aspirations of the people.
The question then presents itself, which of these routes must Pakistan take? We have tried the second a number of time but have always ended back on square one.

There is nothing wrong with democratic system in place but yes we need to fine tune this system asap or God forbid the state will suffer, Pakistan cannot continue like this with the support of IMF, World Bank and other countries helping us out and Ishaq Daar knocking every single door begging for some bucks, we must remember there is no free lunch in this world. The biggest and decisive role will be of Judiciary....they must have to deliver without taking any pressure at all and military must support them in terms of security, judiciary and election commission must clean the system as much as possible, there is no point in having elections after every five years just for the sake of electing a less corrupt government than the one before, democracy in this shape wont work, the corrupt must be punished other wise no matter how many elections we have the country and system wont prosper.