DG ISPR Gen Asif Ghafoor Gives A Befitting Reply To Marvi Sirmed

[Imran Khan]

phas gai bechari

 

[Musafir117]

I do know a bit about her... yes that moulvi tv show incident.

she is freelance so i have read her coloums in dawn, tribune as well i think and daily times as well. it was always about establishment. I mean you see her article and then pervez hoodbhoy, zameen asmaan ka faraq.

The thing I don’t understand that you can’t criticize a current official of Establishment but when he resign everyone have a free pass to bark against him, Be Mushraff Kiyani Raheel the ex heads of controversial establishment and before that are facing heats on social media than why not current one? Don’t know mate criticizing someone and make Army Jawan’s to topple the current COAS which one more under constitutional crime i e Mulla pen di Siri group and mulla Disel Group.
If she into anti state activities why not book her or make a ban on her to appear on media? Isn’t easy!

 

[Army research]

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[saiyan0321]

Those are indeed interesting questions...

The thing I don’t understand that you can’t criticize a current official of Establishment but when he resign everyone have a free pass to bark against him, Be Mushraff Kiyani Raheel the ex heads of controversial establishment and before that are facing heats on social media than why not current one? Don’t know mate criticizing someone and make Army Jawan’s to topple the current COAS which one more under constitutional crime i e Mulla pen di Siri group and mulla Disel Group.

That would be bcz then become ordinary citizens who are alot more easier to criticize then someone sitting on the pedestal of power as the former cannot do anything or can do little and the latter can do something about it. I will give you an example. right now CJP saqib nisar can basically combat any criticism or use a heavy hand to combat it however after his retirement, it will be an open season.

I personally believe that criticism of all sectors should be opened ( and in many ways we are open and are very critical) however there is a very good line between criticism and constant leg-pulling agenda and that is unfair. constructive criticism is a concept that is very underrated and is often a victim to agenda criticism. That does more harm than good.


you are comparing perception creation due to agendas to constitutional crimes. i was highlighting how agendas often lead to creation of perception against a certain individual or group. case in point. The fall of liberal concept and secular concept in pakistan and the massive lack of understanding within pakistan of these two concepts. The fazlus and the khadims are you constitutional criminals and they form their own perception that these far right religious parties will indulge in anti-state activity. They flame another perception through their activities.

We are not discussing which crime is more heinous nor if it is even is a crime. We are discussing how our actions and words effect the ideologies we promote so openly. the positive and negative imagery it creates..

Infact your example of fazlu and khadim are great examples of this. They promote islamism and far right concept being the answer yet their words, their actions have a negative impact on their ideology, on themselves and even their profession.

If she into anti state activities why not book her or make a ban on her to appear on media? Isn’t easy!

That is for the agencies to look into however i made no statement as such. Ofcourse if she is involved then it would still be hard since the perception of targeting journalist would malign the army even more so and unnecessary press would be made for an act that will yield next to nothing. This is simply conjecture.


What i was saying that she has hatred and hatred is not anti state activity. unfair criticism only allows for your stature to fall as well as the stature of the ideology you promote or are face of.

if a person criticizes aimlessly and senselessly then he has committed no crime but if a person asks for rebellion against state then its a crime. This was not our discussion. It was perception that is created due to our actions and when we promote and become face of ideals or an ideology then we must take utmost care. this is also why i highlighted the difference between sirmed and pervez hoodbhoy. Both can be called faces of liberalism but one ruins the perception of it through her aimless hatred and the other forwards enlightenment. thus the zameen asmaan ka farq.

 

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