Detained (Pakistani) man pleads: 'I'm not a threat to Australia'

[ephone]

Well, why don't you ask the westerners whether their countries are founded based on christian faith???

I bet you have never heard U.S. presidents saying over and over again: God bless America???

The christian faith in European countries, Australia, New Zealand, Canada, you have any problem to face with the facts??? How about those major south american countries as well?

Nobody say those countries are religious countries. I simply stated the fact that those countries are built upon on Christian faith. The faith does have great influence over what kind of government mechanism they take in the end: all of them are with democratic secular system but christian faith is integrated into their social fiber in every possible way.

As for your definition of terrorism, I do not think there is any western countries that officially recognize anything remotely close to what you have described.

If it were as your wishes, all major western leaders would have already been sent to international court for war crimes or other punishment.

Do you see any major western country leaders get such treatment or any remote possibility such thing can be done??? It is simply in your wet dream.

When you clean your relation with OBL and taliban, you then can discuss terrorism.

You never stop amusing us with your ignorance. First of all western countries are not built on Christian faith but on principles of secularism and secondly i told you 100 times that your definition of terrorism need to be updated. Terrorist is someone who kill innocent. Now do your maths to calculate who is responsible of killing more innocent lives.

 

[ephone]

What is the possibility of a non-christian elected to be the president of a major western country, e.g. U.S., Canada, U.K., France, Germany and etc???

50 years ago???

How many years ago was France, U.K., U.S., Spain, Germany, Italy and etc founded??? Even the newest was way beyond 100 years.

Before every candidates from different faith enjoy the same type of treatment, stop those nonsense saying "modern western society is anything but Christian".

That may have been the case 50 years ago but modern western society is anything but Christian

 

[untitled]

I dont think you have any idea at all......

That is definitely not what I meant.

Just tell me which of these 2 would you prefer to have more ?

Bible believing, church going, homophobic, anti abortion, creationists in Australia

Or

People who don't care or follow any religion other than the mainstream media

 

[ephone]

"Same privileges to non Muslims"???

Is that a joke???

Did you just indicate that the reason almost 100% population in Pakistan is Muslim is that those non-Muslim are so moved by your religion and your god so that they have voluntarily converted historically to Muslim???

Both Christianity and Islam have their bloody past in converting non-believers.

However, nowadays, Christianity have stopped their bloody past behavior of converting non-believers but many Muslim countries have not done so accordingly.

Pakistan give same privileges to non Muslims if you stop looking at Pakistan from your western Propaganda Media .The flag of Pakistan has a white strip to represent minorities. Pakistan has very less non Muslim population but still you have non Muslims in sport and high ranks position even rana Bagwan das was one of the chief justice of Pakistan. Do you have any Muslim chief justice in your courts? What about sports? I dont see any asian in cricket/hoceky team

 

[untitled]

What is the possibility of ......years.

What is the possibility of a True Christian being elected who lives his life according to the Bible ?
I think an atheist has more of a chance

The UK only recently removed the restriction on Roman Catholics to become heirs to the British throne

 

[ephone]

Whether he is true Christian or not is not for you to judge.

Simply claiming that you are non-Christian, why don't you see what is your chance to be elected to be the president in those western countries???

At least for foreseeable future, I do not see any presidential candidates in those major western countries are stupid enough saying they are not christian.

As for your last sentence, I do not know what you are trying to say???

Roman Catholics are not christian???

What is the possibility of a True Christian being elected who lives his life according to the Bible ?
I think an atheist has more of a chance

The UK only recently removed the restriction on Roman Catholics to heirs to the British throne

 

[untitled]

Simply claiming that you are non-Christian, why don't you see what is your chance to be elected to be the president in those western countries???

Consider the case of Obama. Many in the US think he is a closet Muslim. If he can I am sure I can. But no thanks

Roman Catholics are not christian???

Until recently a Roman Catholic could not become the King of England. Even if he does there will be a STRONG opposition even now

 

[ephone]

President Obama claims he is a Christian.

If he ever mentioned anything that he is a muslim, he has zero chance to be elected for sure.

Consider the case of Obama. Many in the US think he is a closet Muslim. If he can I am sure I can. But no thanks



Until recently a Roman Catholic could not become the King of England. Even if he does there will be a STRONG opposition even now

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BTW, even a christan branch gets such opposition, let alone those non-christian. Isn't your words just strengthening what I have already said???

Consider the case of Obama. Many in the US think he is a closet Muslim. If he can I am sure I can. But no thanks



Until recently a Roman Catholic could not become the King of England. Even if he does there will be a STRONG opposition even now

 

[xdrive]

Stop going off topic. It's amazing how after a few pages every thread turns into a massive religious fight.

Take it else where.

 

[livingdead]

President Obama claims he is a Christian.

If he ever mentioned anything that he is a muslim, he has zero chance to be elected for sure.



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BTW, even a christan branch gets such opposition, let alone those non-christian. Isn't your words just strengthening what I have already said???

Ephone, there is a lot of difference between US and europe. In US, president has to flaunt his religion, in europe heads of state are almost apologetic about it.
Recently Cameron said UK is a christian country. The reason he has to say that is pretty obvious.
I agree west is build upon christian values, and the society operates on that value system. That is unlikely to change even though a large number of people no longer belive in God or christ.

 

[ephone]

If you read my posts, I have not even started to discuss anything deeper yet.

I simply stated the fact and I did not mentioned anything related to whether they truly believe what they preach/say daily.

A lot of comments later just do not make any sense. If they want to rebuke what I said, focus on what I just said with more evidence, or at least some logic.

The west are built upon on christian faith. On any major west countries, a president candidate saying that he is not a christian simply means he has zero chance getting elected.

For local or lower level election, religion stuff means less though.

Ephone, there is a lot of difference between US and europe. In US, president has to flaunt his religion, in europe heads of state are almost apologetic about it.
Recently Cameron said UK is a christian country. The reason he has to say that is pretty obvious.
I agree west is build upon christian values, and the society operates on that value system. That is unlikely to change even though a large number of people no longer belive in God or christ.

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Stop going off topic. It's amazing how after a few pages every thread turns into a massive religious fight.

Take it else where.

Actually, the topic is quite related to religious fight.

The west has a high alert against muslim religion and any suspicious behaviors by those muslims.

 

[xdrive]

Actually, the topic is quite related to religious fight.

The west has a high alert against muslim religion and any suspicious behaviors by those muslims.

No. What you just wrote has nothing to do with the topic of the thread which is about a man who has been detained by Australian authorities because he has links to terrorist groups.

 

[Safriz]

No. What you just wrote has nothing to do with the topic of the thread which is about a man who has been detained by Australian authorities because he has links to terrorist groups.

The arrest was made on the basis of a facebook comment about NATO and a phone cal in which he mentioned NATO and thats all...He never even said anything against Australia...apparently..

 

[Kalyugi Mirza]

The arrest was made on the basis of a facebook comment about NATO and a phone cal in which he mentioned NATO and thats all...He never even said anything against Australia...apparently..

Lagda hein kismat madii hein bha di
Looks like a bad luck

 

[Safriz]

Lagda hein kismat madii hein bha di
Looks like a bad luck

O Phaa Jee sanoo Punjabi samajh lagdee aaey

I can understand Punjabi