Despite hating Pakistanis : More Afghans crossing into Pakistan?

[Mian H Amin.]

well... i sometimes get angry when they **** about Pak. but i think if they want to live in peace, they are welcomed.

 

[FaujHistorian]

More Afghans crossing into Pakistan?


QUETTA, 27 February 2012 (IRIN) - In a tiny flat they have rented in Quetta, capital of Pakistan’s southwestern province of Balochistan, bordering Afghanistan, Zarnab Bibi and her husband Aziz Khan* wait patiently for the phone to ring.

“We are hoping to hear from an agent we have paid to take us and our four children to Thailand and then maybe onto Australia,” Khan told IRIN.

The family left its home in Afghanistan’s conflict-ridden Kandahar Province about a month ago, crossing into Pakistan illegally via a mountain pass.

They spoke of a long walk on foot and said they spent all their savings on the journey. They knew further travel overseas would also be illegal, but Bibi explained: “We really have no choice given the situation in Afghanistan.”

They feared a resurgence of the Taliban, which ruled Afghanistan for five years before it was overthrown in 2001 by international forces that are now gradually withdrawing from the country.

The UN Refugee Agency (UNHCR) says the number of people fleeing Afghanistan has dropped significantly in the past decade, since the government of Hamid Karzai took control of the country. At the same time there are signs of a recent increase in the number of Afghans leaving for Pakistan, a trend which would complicate efforts by Afghanistan and its international partners to sustainably bring home refugees already outside the country.

More conflict and uncertainty

In the Kurram Agency, one of seven tribal areas that share a frontier with Afghanistan, Moazzam Toor told IRIN from his village in the Tirah Valley that the number of refugees from Afghanistan “had definitely increased in the last few months, because they are worried about the future at home.”

He said many of the refugees were destitute, and had headed for Peshawar or other big cities in search of opportunities to earn income.

“Some do not even have shoes on their feet, and walk in leather tied with straps.”

The UN says a rise and spread of conflict in 2011 has led to a significant increase in displacement, with the number of people displaced within the country estimated to have risen to half a million by year-end. But tracking displacements outside the country has proven difficult.

''I am scared for the future of my two teenage daughters if the Taliban make a return''
“Pakistan and Afghanistan share a long and porous border, where hundreds of thousands of people cross the border back and forth daily for different reasons, which could be related to business, education or medical reasons,” said Duniya Aslam Khan, spokesperson for UNHCR in Pakistan. “Not every Afghan crossing the border into Pakistan is a refugee,” she told IRIN.

According to media reports, the prime minister of Pakistan told UN High Commissioner for Afghan Refugees (UNHCR) Antonio Guterres on a recent visit that 30-40,000 Afghans crossed the border annually and Pakistan needed international help to tackle the refugee situation.

But Khan said the number of registered Afghan refugees in Pakistan remained 1.7 million and authorities in Peshawar said they had no official information on the arrival of new refugees into the country.

An official at the government commissionerate for Afghan refugees in Peshawar, who asked not to be named, said the number of Afghans crossing over had increased since mid-2011.

“Most are economic [migrants], and also [refugees] worried about instability in Afghanistan. They mainly live with other Afghans or in rented homes. We are not permitted to give figures, and the numbers are hard to ascertain anyway.”

Border residents say tensions with Islamabad have bolstered growing uncertainty in Afghanistan, amid fears that Pakistan - whose intelligence service allegedly supports the Taliban - is fomenting trouble for its neighbour.

Zarnab has a college education but recalls the days under the Taliban, before 2001, when her daughters were not allowed to go to school.

“I am scared for the future of my two teenage daughters if the Taliban make a return, as this could happen given that the Pakistan government wants it and the militants are now talking to the US officials,” she said, referring to peace talks under way between the US, Afghanistan and the Taliban.

Trafficking

Pakistan is listed as “a source, transit, and destination country” for trafficked persons, according to the US State Department’s Trafficking in Persons report for 2011.

“There are people everywhere in Quetta and other cities involved in getting people out of the country illegally, in exchange for money,” Farid Ahmed, coordinator for the autonomous Human Rights Commission of Pakistan (HRCP), told IRIN. “Many from Afghanistan also come into Pakistan to make use of these agents.”

HRCP conducted a study in 2009, recording thousands of cases of human trafficking through Quetta from 2005 to 2008, including cases involving Afghans who had set out from Kabul.

*Not their real names

Afghan leadership has mostly been a bunch of $stupid @rseholes.



However I beg you all not to make fun of poor Afghans.

they have suffered so much decade after decade after decade

No matter what they say, they are our brothers and sisters.


peace

 

[Argus Panoptes]

Afghan leadership has mostly been a bunch of $stupid @rseholes.



However I beg you all not to make fun of poor Afghans.

they have suffered so much decade after decade after decade

No matter what they say, they are our brothers and sisters.


peace

Sir, we could say the same thing about ourselves too:


Pakistani leadership has mostly been a bunch of s----d a------s.

However, I beg you all not to make fun of poor Pakistanis.

They have suffered so much decade after decade after decade .

No matter what they say, they are our brothers and sisters.


But what good does saying that do anybody?

 

[HassanMir]

And you are saying it while siting in Canada good for you. stay there and dont put your idea on Pakistanis who are facing drugs , weapons and kidnapping because of these refugees.

You nailed it.

When refugees came to Pakistan from the war.. there were many many kidnapping, murders in Islamabad.. as I lived there, so wont talk about the rest of Pakistan

An Afghani women killed a 6 year old girl in my street.

Obviously, there are good people among them too. But the crime rate certainly grew.

 

[Umair Nawaz]

To hell with the border control. They should await Indian investment which will make Afghanistan the land of gold rush..

@Sher Malang

Why r u mentioning him?

He only comments in threads who serve his imagination of death to pakistan

 

[KS]

Why? dont they claim that Afghanistan is better and pure-er? Ship them to India.

Why should they be shipped to India ? India is not playing games on Afghan soil for strategic depth.

 

[A1Kaid]

Let Allah take care of them.

 

[Major Sam]

You nailed it.

When refugees came to Pakistan from the war.. there were many many kidnapping, murders in Islamabad.. as I lived there, so wont talk about the rest of Pakistan

An Afghani women killed a 6 year old girl in my street.

Obviously, there are good people among them too. But the crime rate certainly grew.

these are blood suckers obviously not all but because whom Gun culture came to our politics especially in Karachi.

 

[HassanMir]

Jab dil kia Pakistan a guay.. yahan say parh likh ker paisay kama ker wapis.. aur wahan ja ker DEATH TO PAKISTAN k naray?

We should stop this immediately!

 

[pakistani342]

Jab dil kia Pakistan a guay.. yahan say parh likh ker paisay kama ker wapis.. aur wahan ja ker DEATH TO PAKISTAN k naray?

The actual rendition is "Marg Ba Pakistan" ... lol

The hatred of Pakistanis by the Afghans is at the same time both tragic and comic ... they hate a people who nursed them for 30 years

 

[Edevelop]

Change the title man. The only ones who hate Pakistan are non-Pashtuns i.e Tajiks and they do not come to our country.

 

[pakistani342]

Change the title man. The only ones who hate Pakistan are non-Pashtuns i.e Tajiks and they do not come to our country.

Have you interacted with Afghans ? They all hate us, well save for "ate main namak ke baraber" few.

Let me quote for you an excerpt from Mullah Zaeef's Tome "My Life with the Taliban" (Mullah Zaeef was the Afghan ambassador to Pakistan under the Taliban regime):

“Pakistanis can get milk even from a bull. They have two tongues in one mouth, and two faces on one head so they can speak everybody’s language; they use everybody, deceive everybody. They deceive the Arabs by using the name of Islam, they milk America in war against terrorism and they have been deceiving Pakistanis in the name of Kashmiris, but behind the curtain they have been betraying everyone".

I would also encourage you to watch Afghan talk shows - The Pashtun participants are often more visceral in their hatred than the non-Pashtoon - this is subjective I know, but I assure you there is no real order of magnitude difference.

 

[khanz]

send them to india they're right next door besides indians claim to be developing Afghanistan and claim to be great friends with the afghans and how bad pakistan is so where is their hospitality ? they should be happy to save them from pakistan

 

[SHAMK9]

Change the title man. The only ones who hate Pakistan are non-Pashtuns i.e Tajiks and they do not come to our country.

Not really

 

[474474]

Why should they be shipped to India ? India is not playing games on Afghan soil for strategic depth.

So we're the bad guys, you should take your friends