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Departure of skilled professionals

I'm talking from pure economic point of view, not politics. The problem with Pakistanis is that they wait for a messiah to come solve all their problems instead of doing it themselves. Why wait for Imran Khan to solve joblessness? Why not try to acquire skills that people are willing to pay for instead of running abroad? There are plenty of low-hanging fruit skills that can be self-taught and used to earn a living?

Indians were already developing their skills & industries before Manmohan Singh or Modi came to turn things around.
what kind of skills can we develop when there are no jobs in Pakistan? When ultimately, even those skills will only be put to use abroad? People started doing online freelance work, and the recent internet shutdown sent that down the drain as well,
 
Even the Indians that do leave always find some way to benefit India- Google or Microsoft CEO directing investment to India, etc.

The CEOs of Fortune 500 companies do not arbitrarily decide where to invest. The decision to open engineering/software design centers in India is a function of above average performance of expatriate Indian engineers in USA, availability of talent in India and comfort level of American management teams with operating those centers in India. An Indian origin CEO does not decide on a whim where to invest.

There have been Pakistani origin CEOs who run startups with offices in Pakistan. Most of the startups fail because they happen to be high risk. What happens when the startup fails. The folks in Pakistan lose their jobs. With a few exceptions like Careem most of those startups have failed.

A little bit of nepotism works in the case of Eastern European countries. But those countries have limited talent pools, they are not in the news for terrorism, supporting Taliban, ties with China etc.
 
The thing is when a labourer goes overseas - he sends money back home to support his family. When a professional goes, he does not send money back to pakistan as he will take his entire family with him.

the dumb dumb duffers dont care as they never understood the value of education in the first place....
Infact one professional guides several other professionals to leave

It's chain effect

If a single doctor leaves he open doors for another 20. If a single engnr leave 20 follow him

The effect is huge

The problem is in Pakistan private sector has been crushed ..no matter what field it is

In medicine sehat card opened up doors for private investment in health care it was crushed

While modi learned about it and is picking it up now(we learned it from turkey)
 
The CEOs of Fortune 500 companies do not arbitrarily decide where to invest. The decision to open engineering/software design centers in India is a function of above average performance of expatriate Indian engineers in USA, availability of talent in India and comfort level of American management teams with operating those centers in India. An Indian origin CEO does not decide on a whim where to invest.

There have been Pakistani origin CEOs who run startups with offices in Pakistan. Most of the startups fail because they happen to be high risk. What happens when the startup fails. The folks in Pakistan lose their jobs. With a few exceptions like Careem most of those startups have failed.

A little bit of nepotism works in the case of Eastern European countries. But those countries have limited talent pools, they are not in the news for terrorism, supporting Taliban, ties with China etc.
BS, outsourcing productivity in india compared to a worker in US is 1/3X.
 
My issue is why do Pakistanis choose to leave instead of confronting their issues head on? Compared to India and Bangladesh, which do have high immigration but less compared to Pakistan when stacked against total population.

There is corruption & misgovernance in Bangladesh & India too, but people there solve their problems. There is high productivity & exports in Indian & Bangladesh, increasing number of startups, etc. Basically there is enough entrepreneurs to tackle the problem of unemployment.

The US does not have the greatest economy because the jobs & industry always existed, but because entrepreneurs struggled to create industries that led to its vibrant economy.

Even the Indians that do leave always find some way to benefit India- Google or Microsoft CEO directing investment to India, etc. Meanwhile, Pakistanis abroad wouldn't dare invest at home. I understand that recent military intervention has driven them away, but this was an issue even before this period.

They are docile and do not challenge problems or even themselves. Running abroad is an easy solution to everything, as is taking bribes & stealing to low wages. Everyone is willing to run abroad, including Corp Commanders, and that's why foreign policy is decided elsewhere.

I wonder, if immigration abroad was banned, might that help correct the brain drain problem? What if it resulted in a boom in startups? Increase in productivity, exports because people have no where to run?
Pakistan doesn't have sincere and competent elites who want to mobilize national resources (especially labour) to drive productive ends. Despite its issues, India has an elite that wants to compete on the global stage (e.g., Adani), so they heavily invest in building industry, penetrating global markets, and amassing billions. In the process, those elites recruit armies of skilled engineers, scientists, managers, etc to design, build, and export products.

In contrast, the Pakistani elite fight to grab whatever's already there in Pakistan (e.g., land and public funds). They don't respect or even understand the concept of engaging the global market. For example, Pakistani producers largely focus on the domestic market and don't even think about exporting abroad, hence they're lax on standards, quality, and innovation. Our elites don't have a vision of being globally competitive, just globally comfortable (i.e., go anywhere, live anywhere, eat anywhere). There's no drive to create some new thing or to amass tens of billions of dollars through net-new economic activity.

The average joe can't lead an entire society -- every group of people needs leadership. Pakistan's middle class put their eggs in the Imran Khan basket for one last go around, and they saw it all fail spectacularly. So, there's no hope unless and until a new elite rises up, cleans house, and builds an environment that nurtures innovation and growth.
 
BS, outsourcing productivity in india compared to a worker in US is 1/3X.

That is a different story.

If an offshore site is chosen China is the first choice for manufacturing and India is the first choice for software development. No matter who is the first choice no one is touching Pakistan with a ten foot pole. The only exception is small startups when the CEO is Pakistani American.

I do not think even a Pakistani American CEO of medium sized public company is going to risk his personal political capital on investing in Pakistan. The shenanigans of your elite are enough to repulse most of them. I am kind of curious as to what they might be because it does not seem to prevent folks from investing in India. Some of the Indian government elite are in a venal class of their own. Even if that was not enough the geopolitical and headline risks of terrorism/Taliban/China are enough to deter the rest of them.
 
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Pakistan is facing a severe brain drain crisis as a significant number of its citizens, including highly skilled professionals, are moving abroad in search of better opportunities. In the first six months of the current year, over 800,000 Pakistanis have emigrated, about 100,000 of whom are highly trained individuals such as doctors, nurses, engineers, IT experts and accountants.

The surge in emigration has been a growing concern for our country in recent years, but the departure of highly trained professionals has intensified the issue. The nation is grappling with multiple challenges that contribute to this brain drain, including a crumbling economy, political instability, rising unemployment, soaring inflation and the prevalence of extremist ideologies. These factors have created an environment that pushes skilled individuals to seek better prospects abroad.

According to Pakistan Bureau of Statistics, 832,000 individuals — 400,000 of whom are educated and qualified professionals — have left the country by June this year. The figures for 2022 — during which 225,000 Pakistanis emigrated — are three times higher than those for 2021; while 2020 had seen 280,000 individuals leaving the country. Since both 2020 and 2021 were pandemic years with global travel restrictions in place, it makes the current figures even more concerning.

The brain drain crisis has far-reaching consequences for a developing country like Pakistan. Its healthcare sector suffers from the departure of doctors and nurses. The loss of skilled engineers and IT experts hampers technological progress and industrial development in the country.

Brain drain diminishes productivity, deterring economic growth and causing dependency on expatriate remittances which exposes the economy to global instability. Departing skilled workers disrupt families, fracturing social unity and dynamics. The nation forfeits precious intellectual capital crucial for advancing research, education and societal advancement.

Underlying factors regarding Pakistan’s brain drain also involve political instability, life-threatening social deviance, extremist upsurge, absence of quality employment and more.

The country’s economy is crumbling, leading to limited job opportunities and inadequate wages for skilled professionals. Soaring inflation has eroded the purchasing power of the population, making it challenging to sustain a decent standard of living.

Frequent changes in government and political unrest create an uncertain environment, deterring foreign and domestic investments. Inconsistent policies thwart business growth and undermine confidence in the government.

There is an absence of foolproof security too. The rise of extremist ideologies has created an atmosphere of fear and insecurity among professionals and their families. Persistent security challenges in certain regions discourage professionals from staying in the country.

There is a dire need to prioritise a quality education as well as job creation in sectors with a demand for skilled professionals. We should offer competitive salaries and benefits to incentivise skilled individuals to stay in the country; establish transparent governance systems to build trust in institutions and attract favourable market; ensure policy consistency to provide businesses and professionals with a predictable environment; work to promote education, research and vocational training to empower youth with job-relevant skills and stimulate research-driven economic growth; tackle extremist ideologies to improve the overall security environment; and launch social welfare programmes to provide a safety net for vulnerable populations, including skilled professionals.

Brain drain crisis is a pressing issue that demands urgent attention and collective efforts from the government and stakeholders. There is need to embark upon a comprehensive reforms programmes in various sectors to create an environment that ensures growth and opportunities for citizens. It is crucial for the country to address the underlying causes of brain drain and work towards creating a conducive environment for its skilled workforce to flourish and contribute to its development and progress.


Published in The Express Tribune, September 6th, 2023.
Pakistan is only for the corrupt, low educated folks in power and forms nepotism based society... why anyone will stay, simple as that.
 

Pakistan is facing a severe brain drain crisis as a significant number of its citizens, including highly skilled professionals, are moving abroad in search of better opportunities. In the first six months of the current year, over 800,000 Pakistanis have emigrated, about 100,000 of whom are highly trained individuals such as doctors, nurses, engineers, IT experts and accountants.

The surge in emigration has been a growing concern for our country in recent years, but the departure of highly trained professionals has intensified the issue. The nation is grappling with multiple challenges that contribute to this brain drain, including a crumbling economy, political instability, rising unemployment, soaring inflation and the prevalence of extremist ideologies. These factors have created an environment that pushes skilled individuals to seek better prospects abroad.

According to Pakistan Bureau of Statistics, 832,000 individuals — 400,000 of whom are educated and qualified professionals — have left the country by June this year. The figures for 2022 — during which 225,000 Pakistanis emigrated — are three times higher than those for 2021; while 2020 had seen 280,000 individuals leaving the country. Since both 2020 and 2021 were pandemic years with global travel restrictions in place, it makes the current figures even more concerning.

The brain drain crisis has far-reaching consequences for a developing country like Pakistan. Its healthcare sector suffers from the departure of doctors and nurses. The loss of skilled engineers and IT experts hampers technological progress and industrial development in the country.

Brain drain diminishes productivity, deterring economic growth and causing dependency on expatriate remittances which exposes the economy to global instability. Departing skilled workers disrupt families, fracturing social unity and dynamics. The nation forfeits precious intellectual capital crucial for advancing research, education and societal advancement.

Underlying factors regarding Pakistan’s brain drain also involve political instability, life-threatening social deviance, extremist upsurge, absence of quality employment and more.

The country’s economy is crumbling, leading to limited job opportunities and inadequate wages for skilled professionals. Soaring inflation has eroded the purchasing power of the population, making it challenging to sustain a decent standard of living.

Frequent changes in government and political unrest create an uncertain environment, deterring foreign and domestic investments. Inconsistent policies thwart business growth and undermine confidence in the government.

There is an absence of foolproof security too. The rise of extremist ideologies has created an atmosphere of fear and insecurity among professionals and their families. Persistent security challenges in certain regions discourage professionals from staying in the country.

There is a dire need to prioritise a quality education as well as job creation in sectors with a demand for skilled professionals. We should offer competitive salaries and benefits to incentivise skilled individuals to stay in the country; establish transparent governance systems to build trust in institutions and attract favourable market; ensure policy consistency to provide businesses and professionals with a predictable environment; work to promote education, research and vocational training to empower youth with job-relevant skills and stimulate research-driven economic growth; tackle extremist ideologies to improve the overall security environment; and launch social welfare programmes to provide a safety net for vulnerable populations, including skilled professionals.

Brain drain crisis is a pressing issue that demands urgent attention and collective efforts from the government and stakeholders. There is need to embark upon a comprehensive reforms programmes in various sectors to create an environment that ensures growth and opportunities for citizens. It is crucial for the country to address the underlying causes of brain drain and work towards creating a conducive environment for its skilled workforce to flourish and contribute to its development and progress.


Published in The Express Tribune, September 6th, 2023.


Don't worry.... Brain dead stunted growth PATWARIS will now be the brains running Pakistan along with the terrorist military establishment!


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The situation is so bad that even the rulers have emigrated after getting fed up of their own governance and it's results 🤣🤣.
The whole Sharif family in London, Zardaris in Dubai 🤣🤣
 
Pakistan doesn't have sincere and competent elites who want to mobilize national resources (especially labour) to drive productive ends. Despite its issues, India has an elite that wants to compete on the global stage (e.g., Adani), so they heavily invest in building industry, penetrating global markets, and amassing billions. In the process, those elites recruit armies of skilled engineers, scientists, managers, etc to design, build, and export products.

In contrast, the Pakistani elite fight to grab whatever's already there in Pakistan (e.g., land and public funds). They don't respect or even understand the concept of engaging the global market. For example, Pakistani producers largely focus on the domestic market and don't even think about exporting abroad, hence they're lax on standards, quality, and innovation. Our elites don't have a vision of being globally competitive, just globally comfortable (i.e., go anywhere, live anywhere, eat anywhere). There's no drive to create some new thing or to amass tens of billions of dollars through net-new economic activity.

The average joe can't lead an entire society -- every group of people needs leadership. Pakistan's middle class put their eggs in the Imran Khan basket for one last go around, and they saw it all fail spectacularly. So, there's no hope unless and until a new elite rises up, cleans house, and builds an environment that nurtures innovation and growth.
There's no argument on leadership, granted it has failed. However, the bolded part of your argument interests me as it applies to the middle class as well in other fields. IMO we need to stop blaming leadership and look at the societal, cultural issues.

I've seen Pakistanis being content with average subpar performance in anything they do, blaming deficiencies on divine will. If an engineer designs a faulty bridge and it collapses or a doctor kills a patient through malpractice, you can imagine the excuses. There is no need to improve your craft. There was a joke I heard, typical workday for many Pakistanis starts at 10 am, lunch break at 12 pm, 1 pm dhuhr & tea break, head home at 3 pm.

I rarely find expats here in the US, in my field, that perform better than others like Indians. They like taking the "easy" way out, high pay but less to no effort. Just like local Pakistanis love to invest in real estate or live off bribes. Indians regularly make it to CEO & CTO positions in technology-based industries, whereas the standard for wealthy Pakistanis is owning a few gas stations lol.

This doesn't only apply to Pakistanis. I've noticed this unproductive habits in other Muslims as well, especially Arabs. Even when they get rich, they blow their money on stupid things instead of using it as a medium to dominate their niche or diversify their wealth.

Concerning Indian elites like Adani recruiting many engineers & scientists, how can a Pakistani conglomerate do the same if most educated Pakistanis have left the country?

The point I'm trying to make here, is that all individuals must work hard and be the best they can be, not just average, in their fields. For local Pakistanis, they can take their lives into their own hands, build skills, and become entrepreneurs. Start with freelancing or work with others to form startups. Waiting for leadership to improve or to get outside of the country will not solve any problem.
 
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This statement send a chill down my spine.
A man who is not easy to intimidate or afraid of challenges.

I once was a supporter of army and defended them many times against Indians and afghanis when they voiced their displeasure.. I even ignored when Balochi were being killed or picked up. I assumed the army was taking out foreign funded terrorists... Now I know.

Now we all realize.. We all know that the biggest thing holding pakistan back is army itself.
 

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