Deobandi clerics declare war on secularism in Pakistan

[Thamizh Pride]

Correct me if I am wrong about the facts - wasn't the Pakistani constitution changed to be specifically make it an Islamic country? If that is true then what this guy says actually has constitutional foundation! how does that amount to declaring war on govt of Pakistan?

It would be a good idea then to start a movement to change the constitution to make the country secular. Without that how can the courts convict?

 

[DESERT FIGHTER]

Filthy scumbags.

 

[I.R.A]

I am personally close to Deo Bandi school of thought, however, I fail to understand why on earth people (Muslims irrespective of their sects) think that Islam in anyway needs them to represent it. Who gives (in current times) anyone any authority to decide on matters like that this guy is a thekydar of Islam and that guy is a ghadar of Islam?

• Prophet Muhammad (Peace be upon him) was and is Blessing for the any and all worlds, with whole of the humanity at top of the list, should we say his teachings are limited to Muslims only so a non-Muslim cannot research? No nobody gives anyone any right to declare that and neither did Prophet declare that, nor does Quran endorse this, instead it encourages humanity to research and think
• Why our thinking of Sharia starts with veils and ends on lashing and stoning? Is this that much of a narrow subject? Where are other aspects? The way of life? The respect? The tolerance? The authority? Daily introspect? Contribution to society? Patience? Steadfastness? Struggle? Love and compassion? Self-accountability?

People think about implementing Sharia, chant slogans for sharia, but on individual level they fail to refuse Interest based saving accounts for themselves, drive on roads like buffoons as if that road is their “Baap ka maal” and others on the road are just vermin. They fail to see how they treat their own elders, their own children, their own female family members and their neighbors, but are out there to advocate sharia for others’ elders, children and women. They fail to understand that how compassionate, kind and gentle our Prophet (Peace be upon him) was in his way of preaching and making people understand that path to salvation is Islam and Islam only, and look at our way people understanding and preaching Sharia today.


To practice “Deen” was never hard, it is just us who made it our property and copyrighted it and for the time being we don't see any change in our attitudes so forget Sharia. With this state of mind we will only implement Fitna only and not Sharia.

 

[Zibago]

State is like a machine and machines don,t have religions.

 

[Menace2Society]

I would have thought they would have got tired of war by now.

 

[I.R.A]

State is like a machine and machines don,t have religions.

Islam started as a religion and built a welfare state based on its principles that would encompass substantial chunk of the map of the world. What we see today is States only with Islam added to their names but not spirit.

 

[Zibago]

Islam started as a religion and built a welfare state based on its principles that would encompass substantial chunk of the map of the world. What we see today is States only with Islam added to their names but not spirit.

Well secularism works for the west it can work for us

 

[I.R.A]

Well secularism works for the west it can work for us

Dear you do realise there is a massive cultural gap between West and us? Their way and standard of life and our way and standard of life are nearly 180 degrees to each other?

Leave Islam aside just have a neutral observation of our neighbors and analyse how successful secularism is there in real.

 

[Zibago]

Dear you do realise there is a massive cultural gap between West and us? Their way and standard of life and our way and standard of life are nearly 180 degrees to each other?

Leave Islam aside just have a neutral observation of our neighbors and analyse how successful secularism is there in real.

Turkey is secular with a muslim majority and if you want a 3rd world country than i give you the example of Philipine.

 

[I.R.A]

Turkey is secular with a muslim majority and if you want a 3rd world country than i give you the example of Philipine.

Ub itnay bhi buray hallat nahi hain k Philippine ko hum apna role model bnain

Turkey is half Europe half Asia, and traits of their populace are very different from people of Sub Continent.

 

[Zibago]

Ub itnay bhi buray hallat nahi hain k Philippine ko hum apna role model bnain

Turkey is half Europe half Asia, and traits of their populace are very different from people of Sub Continent.

To kia ap minorities ko 3rd class citizens rakhna pasand farmain gay?

Turkey was as racist as us their leaders had guts to take on the elephant in the room

 

[Daneshmand]

Question for Pakistani members: Have Deobandi Ulema yet accepted Pakistan? Because they were against partition of India and considered the creation of Pakistan a great sin. How is the situation now?

 

[Menace2Society]

Ub itnay bhi buray hallat nahi hain k Philippine ko hum apna role model bnain

Turkey is half Europe half Asia, and traits of their populace are very different from people of Sub Continent.

Turkey is perfect example how to run a Muslim society. Keep religious bias out of politics then these self proclaimed clerics and islamic scholars will lose their power and influence. Thats what they are scared of.

 

[Zibago]

Turkey is perfect example how to run a Muslim society. Keep religious bias out of politics then these self proclaimed clerics and islamic scholars will lose their power and influence. Thats what they are scared of.

AB aen gay yahan deen kay thekaydar mullah bardar ho kay

 

[ZYXW]

Oh man....so many of them at one venue.....

I am having ideas

L.O.L you are highly encouraged to follow through with them!