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:)))))))))))) and for how long these 11 lack crore would stay in Banks and the owners will continue to pay relevant taxes before they wind a way to invest or utilize a tax-free mode ?

Whatever they do there is a sealing, no one can get a tax exemption above 1.5 lac rupees not more than that how much money they may invest. Else they have an option to give it under 80D, as charity I suppose. That won't attract any tax. ;)

I was about to ask the same but thank God you yourself raised the question in black.

True, because I really doubt the coming down of inflation is due to this demonetization. I guess it is rather due to the cash crunch. Moreover the farmers and the shopkeepers have to sell their good whatever may happen, so they might have reduced the rates for getting rid of their perishable I suppose. Again I'm not sure though. :)
 
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You are right.
But I am not that privileged sir.
I have a doubt about this ,only problem that the people have been faced for some weeks was due to note exchanging.
80% of our population dont need 2000 rs a day or 24000rs a week.
So how will they affect due this?

I refuse to believe that you cannot work it out. Merely for the sake of the record, let me go through this once.

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Indulge me for a moment, and assume that this is a realistic representation of the distribution of currency notes within the population, before demonetisation.
  1. MOST of the currency, that is, almost ALL the Rs. 1,000 notes, most of the 500s, and most of the 100s, 50s and 10s were concentrated in the hands of the population represented by the blue rhombus;
  2. In value terms, the blue portion used 1,000 and 500 notes for 90% of its transactions; the other notes also came in useful;
  3. The red portion had less money, because it earned/earns pitifully less, and nearly 90% is in the lower denominations: 100, 50, 20 and 10;
  4. Now, apply demonetisation. Nearly 90% of the currency in the blue portion vanishes; it is no longer valid, and it is not replaced immediately;
  5. The blue portion thereafter grabs all the lower denomination notes that it can, through its greater access to ATMs and to bank accounts and plastic, also through its familiarity with on-line transactions. But that is only the lower denomination notes that it had been holding; there is a vacuum and that blue sector needs more currency.
  6. Where do you think that needed currency comes from, considering that the banks, the RBI, is unable to replace the missing notes completely?
  7. What do you think happens to the red sector?
    1. It spends the currency in stock;
    2. It cannot replace it, because the lower denominations are no longer readily available;
      1. The blue sector has sucked up most of it;
      2. The banks are not getting enough to issue those;
      3. The banks are desperately trying to get enough 2000 rupee and new 500 rupee notes to meet the demand from the blue sector, and has no time to help out the red sector;
    3. It can't use the new 2000 rupees, and just about can handle the new 500 rupees notes.
I hope that gives you a feel for the massive disaster that has taken place.
 
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Modi is going to pull Indians into the digital age whether we like it or not.
The jan dhan accounts is something i have seen first hand wrt our maid.
Her family now withdraws money in a far away place and we are sure that the agents are not upto to any mischief. Mobile phones everywhere also help.
The support for demonetisation is still very strong at street level.
 
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I seriously doubt it was nothing but and exercise to deprive all political parties from utilizing there unaccounted money in UP elections except BJP. That is the one big agenda behind all this I suppose. What do you think ?? :)

That was the politics behind it, of course. But there was also Class 6 pass economics involved, and a sycophantic Finance Minister who cannot win an election to save his life.


I did, most dutifully, and I have the following two comments to offer, which I shall put in different posts.

First, Bhalla has never made any bones of being a contrarian, and of being seized of a sense of grievance at being upstaged by the Amartya Sen school, the supposedly official economists, more or less aligned with Manmohan Singh. But that is a personal reflection, which merely suggests that he earlier discounted silver linings and looked for the cloud, and now ignores any cloud and looks for silver linings.

The defect with his analysis is that he addresses growth, and not poverty. If growth remains unaffected, the poor are bound to benefit - trickle-down re-packaged, in spite of its embarrassing failures under both Thatcher and Reagan. But that is not the point by itself. I was pointing to the rotten implementation; demonetisation by itself has some huge advantages in terms of currency security. Demonetisation is not and was never the problem; its faulty implementation was. It was the further pauperisation of the poor, and the most vulnerable sections of society. I have no quarrel with Dr. Bhalla, although if you wish, I can show you a contradictory analysis from the same M1, M2 point of view. I have a major quarrel with the RBI, with the Finance Minister and with the Prime Minister, in increasing order of seriousness.



As for my second point, during the reign of Philip II, the father of Alexander III the Great, he was seriously annoyed by the obduracy of the Spartans, and sent an ambassador to read them the riot act. The Macedonian ambassador duly went across and gave the ephors and the assembly a dressing down. If, he said, his sovereign were to cross the Isthmus of Corinth, and descend upon Sparta, woe betide Sparta. It would be a lesson as salutary as the one he had taught the other Greek cities.

At the end, he demanded their response.

The Spartans, being Lakonian, have given the English language the word 'laconic' and with very good cause. After a short pause, one of the ephors stood, and answered with just one word.

"If."

Read on, for Dr. Bhalla's punch-line. His words, not mine.

But, if other policy measures to reform India are not forthcoming (decline in personal income tax rates to discourage tax evasion, elimination of stamp duty and long-term tax rates on property, a clampdown on the extortion power of tax officials, and reform of election funding), then history will view demonetisation as a colossal failure of thought and reform. It would be so unlike PM Modi to stop here, and I am not betting that he will.
 
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Demonetization happened cause someone leaked the new currency notes
true story
 
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Few years back when I visited India was told India will soon have polymer banknotes, did you?
 
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Very good India should now get own CPEC with that money or complete Chahbahar earlier than the stipulated time period.

you are so funny
we have multiple projects completed or running which value much more than CPEC... even the Business witch Chinese we do is more than 40 Billion dollars.

so keep calm :D

No one gives a damn about CPEC but CPEC is just an excuse to highlight Baloch issue ;)
 
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50000 rupees per week for an embassy? That's around 680€ or less than 100€ per day. That must be a joke, right?

Cash Withdrawal.And You know why it was implemented,right??Cash gone,Protest in Kashmir gone.Terrorist groups are crying for help.Some very generous people sitting in some embassy might feel extremely sorry for their plight and Cash for their "Decent dinner" might get donated to these "Poor Terrorists".

There is no bound for digital transaction.And India is advanced enough where you can conduct a "Dinner" using Digital currency only.Hell,even entire marriage spending is now possible using "Digital Transaction".
 
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you are so funny
we have multiple projects completed or running which value much more than CPEC... even the Business witch Chinese we do is more than 40 Billion dollars.

so keep calm :D

No one gives a damn about CPEC but CPEC is just an excuse to highlight Baloch issue ;)

So at the end of the day you Need CPEC and care about CPEC
 
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Cash Withdrawal.And You know why it was implemented,right??Cash gone,Protest in Kashmir gone.Terrorist groups are crying for help.Some very generous people sitting in some embassy might feel extremely sorry for their plight and Cash for their "Decent dinner" might get donated to these "Poor Terrorists".

There is no bound for digital transaction.And India is advanced enough where you can conduct a "Dinner" using Digital currency only.Hell,even entire marriage spending is now possible using "Digital Transaction".

According to India itself, around 98% of transactions in India are done using cash. So it makes sense that they need cash for doing a lot of day-to-day things.
 
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I refuse to believe that you cannot work it out. Merely for the sake of the record, let me go through this once.

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Indulge me for a moment, and assume that this is a realistic representation of the distribution of currency notes within the population, before demonetisation.
  1. MOST of the currency, that is, almost ALL the Rs. 1,000 notes, most of the 500s, and most of the 100s, 50s and 10s were concentrated in the hands of the population represented by the blue rhombus;
  2. In value terms, the blue portion used 1,000 and 500 notes for 90% of its transactions; the other notes also came in useful;
  3. The red portion had less money, because it earned/earns pitifully less, and nearly 90% is in the lower denominations: 100, 50, 20 and 10;
  4. Now, apply demonetisation. Nearly 90% of the currency in the blue portion vanishes; it is no longer valid, and it is not replaced immediately;
  5. The blue portion thereafter grabs all the lower denomination notes that it can, through its greater access to ATMs and to bank accounts and plastic, also through its familiarity with on-line transactions. But that is only the lower denomination notes that it had been holding; there is a vacuum and that blue sector needs more currency.
  6. Where do you think that needed currency comes from, considering that the banks, the RBI, is unable to replace the missing notes completely?
  7. What do you think happens to the red sector?
    1. It spends the currency in stock;
    2. It cannot replace it, because the lower denominations are no longer readily available;
      1. The blue sector has sucked up most of it;
      2. The banks are not getting enough to issue those;
      3. The banks are desperately trying to get enough 2000 rupee and new 500 rupee notes to meet the demand from the blue sector, and has no time to help out the red sector;
    3. It can't use the new 2000 rupees, and just about can handle the new 500 rupees notes.
I hope that gives you a feel for the massive disaster that has taken place.
Certainly class 6 pass economics.

I seriously doubt it was nothing but and exercise to deprive all political parties from utilizing there unaccounted money in UP elections except BJP. That is the one big agenda behind all this I suppose. What do you think ?? :)
Have to agree :lol:
 
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According to India itself, around 98% of transactions in India are done using cash. So it makes sense that they need cash for doing a lot of day-to-day things.

That "According to" was before demonetization.And please,you're exaggerating numbers.And if you want to talk about diner,almost every hotel takes Debit Card/Credit Card as payment.In fact in cities like Delhi,you don't have to worry about cash anyway.Hopefully Russians are not going "Kakaji Da Dhaba"(street side cheap food corners).
 
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