DEMOCRACY PROBLEM OF PAKISTAN

[The Sword Of Allah]

ASSALAMUALIKUM
The elections of 2013 came with the results of PMLN winning, for which their is proof of rigging stated by IK i wont want to go into detail of PTI VS PMLN so basically what i say is that there is no democracy in pakistan as the previous elections where rigged and there is also a good chance of the next elections to be rigged aswell because during elections we close our eyes and get bribed let me give you an example in Jhang the sitting MNA offered for 2000rs per vote and the poor happily took it as 2000rs can make their day so should there be chaliphate a monarchy or Something else can changing the burnt circut change pakistan ?
Thanks

 

[Laozi]

there is no democracy in pakistan as the previous elections where rigged and there is also a good chance of the next elections to be rigged aswell

an example in Jhang the sitting MNA offered for 2000rs per vote and the poor happily took it as 2000rs can make their day

These are the normal practises of Dirty Politicians of this region.

India was / is facing the same problems even after decades of uninterrupted democracy

What is needed are electoral reforms and Voters education mechanism.

But if you kill Democracy instead of reforming it then your chances of getting a Modi like "terrorist" elected as your PM are virtually zero

But its your country and if you citizens prefer martial rule over democracy then its your choice

 

[The Sword Of Allah]

These are the normal practises of Dirty Politicians of this region.

India was / is facing the same problems even after decades of uninterrupted democracy

What is needed are electoral reforms and Voters education mechanism.

But if you kill Democracy instead of reforming it then your chances of getting a Modi like "terrorist" elected as your PM are virtually zero

But its your country and if you citizens prefer martial rule over democracy then its your choice

Really happy to see people from india helping us as a big brother experience lol but u see here is we have two roots Army and goverment army is doing its best till its last drop of blood where as the goverment is eating the share of the poor the way to fix this is to bring in capital punishment the army should take over for a few good years stable the country and hand over a new system and appointing a good leader

 

[AZADPAKISTAN2009]

Democracy does not works when voting is done along the lines of "tribal" alliance overlooking the agenda or cause of campaign of leader

Democracy cannot work in Pakistan becasue PPP gives bag of flour and rice to farmers
farmers get beaten or killed if they do not vote for the Zameendar

It can also not work if the farrmer cannot sell Sugar plant to Sugar factories owned by Nawaz Sharif

Imran Khan has been trying to win elections based on social work and ground work for past 20 years of political effort however Pakistani system is heavily rigged

a) Electronic vote not allowed
b) Voter lists keep changing
c) International Pakistanis cannot cast vote
d) Fake ballots and fake votes in ballots
e) Heavy property / money export out of country in Pakistan

f) Biggest reason why it cannot work Politicians are all above the law

For Pakistan best system is Chinese system (Social work , then gradual progression to policy making)

Overtime the system can introduce some Democrcy once the population is 99% education right now the figure is close to 20%-25% (real figure)

 

[B@KH]

ASSALAMUALIKUM
The elections of 2013 came with the results of PMLN winning, for which their is proof of rigging stated by IK i wont want to go into detail of PTI VS PMLN so basically what i say is that there is no democracy in pakistan as the previous elections where rigged and there is also a good chance of the next elections to be rigged aswell because during elections we close our eyes and get bribed let me give you an example in Jhang the sitting MNA offered for 2000rs per vote and the poor happily took it as 2000rs can make their day so should there be chaliphate a monarchy or Something else can changing the burnt circut change pakistan ?
Thanks

و عليكم السلام

Lol. we all are living the same waters. rigging is always pre election and is all over the world.

Rigging is not the problem. the problem is that who is doing the rigging despite having institutions as one person or individual cannot do this all. If institutions are doing it, then certain they will not do rigging for 2000 rs. since they are paid employees.

here It is wahabi problem that has purchased all institutions, mosques, madrassah and distribute 2000 rs. thru their mercenaries. So not only Next but even the next next next elections will produce same rigged results.

caliphate cannot come thru elections or thru guns. it already ruled and got defeated. those who are trying thru guns or terror cannot win.

The only lacking is the leadership like Imam Khomeini, Jinnah, Dr. Iqbal. they are popular without elections and are unbeatable by their enemies due to their dedication, steadfastness, faith, honesty and sincerity.

till then we have no choice but to enjoy rigged elections.

 

[Laozi]

Really happy to see people from india helping us as a big brother experience lol but u see here is we have two roots Army and goverment army is doing its best till its last drop of blood where as the goverment is eating the share of the poor the way to fix this is to bring in capital punishment the army should take over for a few good years stable the country and hand over a new system and appointing a good leader

Its the general view that I am sharing with you and may not be best suited for Pakistan.

Take the example of China which has progressed much more than India without any democracy

Like I told you that's your Country you make the choice. Best of Luck

 

[The Sword Of Allah]

و عليكم السلام

Lol. we all are living the same waters. rigging is always pre election and is all over the world.

Rigging is not the problem. the problem is that who is doing the rigging despite having institutions as one person or individual cannot do this all. If institutions are doing it, then certain they will not do rigging for 2000 rs. since they are paid employees.

here It is wahabi problem that has purchased all institutions, mosques, madrassah and distribute 2000 rs. thru their mercenaries. So not only Next but even the next next next elections will produce same rigged results.

it is hilarious that caliphate will come thru elections. it is history since it already ruled and got defeated by british.

The only lacking is the leadership like Imam Khomeini, Jinnah, Dr. Iqbal. they are popular without elections and are unbeatable by their enemies due to their dedication, steadfastness, faith, honesty and sincerity.

till then we have no choice but to enjoy rigged elections.

Thanks to god you and i are blessed with food on our table but some who are being robbed dont even have clean water wht enjoy rigged elections while your brothers and sisters are dying

 

[AZADPAKISTAN2009]

Pakistani Democracy in Nutshell

1 Guy with brain and smarts , want to do good says all the right thing
(Can't come to power after being right for 20-25 years)

They say now to him , don't show how it feels to be able to see with your eyes to a person who is blind all his life , for all we know he may regret his life if he saw the truth , people now advocate , that if you are blind it is ok , at least you get a roti and a glass of water let the criminals stack billions in their homes or property purchases offshore

vs

1 Lard Bag (People in power PPP/ PML-N) , who then uses his money to make a small army of uneducated goons
The goons then go door to door tell people in villages vote for Lard Bag or you will be social outcast
They go tell people , we are watching what you will vote you can forget about coming to work
for in the farm land if you vote against Bilawal or Zardari or Nawaz

Then out of some mysterious miracle people still vote for the smart guy

Then comes the Rigging (Crew) - the bought out Election commission workers
the people who allow the changing of ballot boxes on day of election. Then the folks who come in and throw away legitimate votes , or the people who insist that the paper vote system is best

The Third Tier of the Lard Bag's approach is paying Private TV channels to launch a smear campaign against the socialist guy , make fun of his private life or his marrige

If that is not enough then there is the Special Branch of the Lard Bag , called "MAFIA"
he buys the Mafia members to kill or assassinate opponent murder if they come to give speeches or beating up of workers



When a Westerner sees Pakistani Democracy he just sees a posh parliment some voting going on and some resolutions being passed , looks like Democracy but the inner workings or the filth happening or the shit on the hands of politicians who come to power remains hidden


The Democracy implementation in western state is all about AGENDA
vs what is in Pakistan which is purely based on Sentimental connections and tribal alliance

 

[The Sword Of Allah]

Pakistani Democracy in Nutshell

1 Guy with brain and smarts , want to do good says all the right thing

vs

1 Lard Bag , who then uses his money to make a small army of uneducated goons
The goons then go door to door tell people in villages vote for Lard Bag or you will be social outcast
They go tell people , we are watching what you will vote you can forget about coming to work
for in the farm land if you vote against Bilawal or Zardari or Nawaz

Straight to the point yes your right

 

[B@KH]

Thanks to god you and i are blessed with food on our table but some who are being robbed dont even have clean water wht enjoy rigged elections while your brothers and sisters are dying

seems you have just awaken from a deep sleep and seeing things have gone wrong only today. no one cares that every individual is answerable to Allah swt. This is centuries old problem and disease.

where invaders, monarchs, occupiers are heros, to think of good is something unwise. when the route was wrong so all reached at the wrong place.

 

[Saquib]

Surely in this day and age there must be some way to monitor the election campaigning and keep an eye on those standing for elections! We should use the internet to keep an eye on them! Come there is hope if all of want a better Pakistan

 

[The Sword Of Allah]

ofcourse shameless life. seems you have just awaken from a deep sleep as things have gone wrong only today. no one cares that every individual is answerable to Allah swt and they cannot learn to care. This is centuries old problem and disease.

where invaders, monarchs, occupiers are heros, to think of good is something unwise. when the route was wrong so all reached at the wrong place.

I was always wake and will remain awake for pakistan till the last drop of my blood BTW im 14 im ready to release my dual nationality aswell but there should be some one who wakes them up and tells them and guides them to the straight path from ourselves

Surely in this day and age there must be some way to monitor the election campaigning and keep an eye on those standing for elections! We should use the internet to keep an eye on them! Come there is hope if all of want a better Pakistan

If the people who r supposed to monitor r rigged then what should we do LMAO

 

[B@KH]

I was always wake and will remain awake for pakistan till the last drop of my blood BTW im 14 im ready to release my dual nationality aswell but there should be some one who wakes them up and tells them and guides them to the straight path from ourselves

Right on target. that is my point. But it is mystery to find that someone who wakes them up.
Searching that someone among corrupt is again unwise.
so we have to wait for someone.

we really miss these heroes Imam Khomeini, Jinnah, Dr. Iqbal. who gave vision to the people and set path for them.

Rest I think, the First thing the Pakistanis should do is to set ban on the wahabi Monarchy and its following in the country. this will definitely help to stop rigging in elections. Secondly, stop exporting the educated elite, workers and labourers to other countries and develop own country with its own resources.

 

[Danish saleem]

ASSALAMUALIKUM
The elections of 2013 came with the results of PMLN winning, for which their is proof of rigging stated by IK i wont want to go into detail of PTI VS PMLN so basically what i say is that there is no democracy in pakistan as the previous elections where rigged and there is also a good chance of the next elections to be rigged aswell because during elections we close our eyes and get bribed let me give you an example in Jhang the sitting MNA offered for 2000rs per vote and the poor happily took it as 2000rs can make their day so should there be chaliphate a monarchy or Something else can changing the burnt circut change pakistan ?
Thanks

Bro,

so we what system u choose to govern Pakistan?

 

[Zibago]

ASSALAMUALIKUM
The elections of 2013 came with the results of PMLN winning, for which their is proof of rigging stated by IK i wont want to go into detail of PTI VS PMLN so basically what i say is that there is no democracy in pakistan as the previous elections where rigged and there is also a good chance of the next elections to be rigged aswell because during elections we close our eyes and get bribed let me give you an example in Jhang the sitting MNA offered for 2000rs per vote and the poor happily took it as 2000rs can make their day so should there be chaliphate a monarchy or Something else can changing the burnt circut change pakistan ?
Thanks

In Sialkot it was only 500-1000rs per vote