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Delivery of PAA AH-1Z postponed !

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Same thing bro, US offer lots of thing to India and delivering which is indeed good for us referring F-16 (same thing is going to happen with India, They already putting pressure to cancel S-400 lets see finger crossed....

We don't need AH1-Z, we have better option (in numbers) we should compromise our love for quality to quantity....
India got the Longbow radar with AH-64
 
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We need them. Why doesn't qureshi's diplomacy work here? Pakistan should somehow come up with something to secure these beasts of attack helis.
we are already suffering from dollar shortage we dont have to pay for them if we were promised funds from the CSF and FMA

stop their supplies and torpedo their peace talks....Kill their solders a few and they will ome running back at us asking for help AGAIN.


question is; is Pakistan paying their rent for storages or not this time like it paid for those F16s that had gone for repair in America in 1990s? which were never returned
im sure since we told the americans we would only pay for them from the CSF and FMA... its the US that has to provide with all the necessary financial assistance

god damn its been 70 years we did not learn that we should stay away from USA in defense .

we never paid for them dude......it was for our services as a coalition partner... now it appears we did all that effort for friendship nothing more and nothing less which will earn us respect.... its the respect that matters in the end
 
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So this was a way for US to compensate and use US funds by giving it to US comapqnies sell Products and services

In the end US backed out and never game the funds and paa was in no mood to pay for its share end of story
Move on go with what can be affordable and not just pure hi end

compare ~1B big one for 15 vs 1.5 for 30 a129 and I am sure 1B will bring 40 may be 50 Chinese version



may be blessing in disguise
 
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The hope for AH1Z and T129 is still intact. Infact, the possibility of AH1Z arrival is higher than that of T129. T129 fate will decide by July of this year. In case of T129 failure, Z10ME and surplus Cobras will compete as 'short term solution' for Pakistan.
 
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The hope for AH1Z and T129 is still intact. Infact, the possibility of AH1Z arrival is higher than that of T129. T129 fate will decide by July of this year. In case of T129 failure, Z10ME and surplus Cobras will compete as 'short term solution' for Pakistan.
Surplus by marine corps super cobras?? If they available PAA should go for some along AH1Z. Any hope about surplus F16 vipers??
 
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T-129 we can be patient on it is a strategic deal a delay of 3-4 months does not impacts much
Super Cobra are not that important

Z10 can be purchased when we have budget for it
 
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T-129 we can be patient on it is a strategic deal a delay of 3-4 months does not impacts much
Super Cobra are not that important

Z10 can be purchased when we have budget for it
Super cobras are dirt cheap if we get them they are still very potent platform and far better than our current inventory along zulu cobras will give awesome firepower. PAA should also consider Z10 ME and invest in ATAK 2 So cobra family along Z10ME are good for time being
 
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I think from the T-129 perspective the focus should be updated on the engine which Turkey is manufacturing locally

  • This is attainable, the issue with Super Cobra is not in our control

Once the Turkish bodies manage to build test their own engine, the delivery is only a matter of time Turkey is already building the helicopters just awaiting the install of engines so we won't see much delays

The engine can always be added in later while the rest of Chopper is built up
 
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Why not upgrade our Cobras to Super cobras?
Corona crisis depayed Esper visit to Pak beacuse it was all about Pak needs and cooperation and Esper is guy who files DSC for FMS let's see when he Visits again may be April or May

I think from the T-129 perspective the focus should be updated on the engine which Turkey is manufacturing locally

  • This is attainable, the issue with Super Cobra is not in our control

Once the Turkish bodies manage to build test their own engine, the delivery is only a matter of time Turkey is already building the helicopters just awaiting the install of engines so we won't see much delays

The engine can always be added in later while the rest of Chopper is built up
If T129 won't come then invest in ATAK 2 program which is heavy like Apachi
 
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