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Delhi finds its connectivity with Dhaka a game-changer
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  • Published at 07:21 pm November 12th, 2019
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File photo of Indian High Commissioner to Bangladesh Riva Ganguly Das UNB


India believes in ‘inclusive’ Indo Pacific; Dhaka for harnessing potential

Indian High Commissioner to Bangladesh Riva Ganguly Das said India believes in an “inclusive” Indo Pacific and described its connectivity with Bangladesh as a “game-changer” ensuring a “win-win” situation for the two countries.

“So, for India, connectivity with Bangladesh is a game-changer, and we feel that for the both of our countries it’s a win-win (situation),” she said while talking at an interactive session on "Connecting the Indo-Pacific: Infrastructure and Influence" in Dhaka on Tuesday.

State Minister for Foreign Affairs M Shahriar Alam, Indian Member of Parliament Manish Tewari and professor of Institute of International Studies at Fudan University Minwang Lin also spoke at the session moderated by OXCON Frontier Markets & Fragile States Consulting Managing Director Mohamed El Dashan, reports UNB.

The session was arranged as part of the ongoing three-day "Dhaka Global Dialogue 2019" inaugurated by Prime Minister Sheikh Hasina on Monday.

The Indian high commissioner talked about the railway and roads widening projects which are happening under $8 billion Lines of Credit (LoCs) inland water-based connections and access to two Bangladesh ports – Chittagong and Monga.

“I think it (access to ports and other connectivity) can be a game-changer for both the countries….it can be a game-changer for the northeast as well,” High Commissioner Riva said, mentioning that almost 80% of their $8 billion LoCs is spent on the connectivity projects.

The high commissioner highlighted the joint initiatives of reestablishing all the pre-1965 rail connections between Bangladesh and India and progress made so far to that end.

Riva Ganguly also laid importance on people-to-people connectivity with liberal visa process saying digital connectivity is an exciting area for connectivity in the future.

She said Bangladesh is the most important neighbour of India with who they have such a “growing interaction” and connectivity plays a very important role in this interaction.

“The importance of connectivity can be judged by the excitement that is there in Indian in Northeastern States,” said the high commissioner.

State Minister Shahriar said free movement of people, services and goods are key elements for the region to prosper.

“We need to harness our potential and increase our co-operation,” he said adding that negative elements like irregular migration, illicit trade, and piracy were there but there are success stories in other parts of the world.

Shahriar said Bangladesh’s position on Indo Pacific is “loud and clear” and mentioned that other ideas or initiatives are complementary and not conflicting.

He said the Indo Pacific is still evolving but one thing is evident that it is Asian century with global economic powers’ focus on it.

That is why, Shahriar said, the countries of this region need to co-operate as much as possible.

“There is potential. We must not lose our focus. We should not get confused by different ideas by different countries,” he said.

The state minister said people prefer free movement, and free movement of trade is also essential as it is an important element for all the countries.

He laid emphasis on considering domestic demand, interest, and objectives and also world order. “We need to talk about it much more.”

Riva Ganguly said she does not think Belt and Road Initiative (BRI) and Indo Pacific are the same at all, and Indo Pacific is not driven by a single country with long portfolio projects in that sense.

Prof Minwang Lin suggested having a master plan for regional connectivity, saying Bangladesh and India can take the lead to that end.

Inclusive Indo Pacific

For India, High Commissioner Riva Ganguly said, the important thing of the Indo Pacific is that they are looking at a “free, open, inclusive” order which is “safe, secure and stable.”

She said they are looking at freedom of navigation, respect, and sovereignty of all in the region. “It is not a strategy; it is not a club and not a grouping.”

Riva Ganguly said India believes in an inclusive Indo Pacific which is not exclusive in any way.

Issues related to Asean, Saarc and Bimstec were also discussed in the session with participation from the audience.

Dhaka Growing Importance

High Commissioner Riva Ganguly said, the three words - Dhaka Global Dialogue - by itself indicative of how important this event is.

“We are having a global dialogue in Dhaka. This shows the importance of Dhaka,” she said, adding that it is one of the most happening places in the world.

Talking about Bangladesh’s growth, the high commissioner said this is a story which gets repeated – the growth of Bangladesh in which India sees a lot of opportunities. “Across all sectors, Bangladesh has done so amazingly well.”

Talking about Indian perspective of Indo Pacific, the Indian high commissioner said India is a growing economy, and one of the fastest-growing economies, and they naturally depend a lot on their sea lanes - most of the trade takes place through sea lanes, both merchandise and services trade.

Riva Ganguly said, it is a natural region in their view which has growing importance in the region and beyond.

She mentioned that 38 major countries are part of this broad concept of Indo Pacific with 45% of world services area, 65% of world population, 62% of world GDP, and 46% of world merchandize trade that go across this region. “It is extremely an important area both globally as well as for us.”

The high commissioner said, in terms of economic importance as well as geographical importance, it is an important concept and area which is going to be increasingly more and more important.

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India wants connectivity 'through' Bangladesh, not 'to' it.

It wants to strengthen the seven sisters so they can become stronger parts of the Indian economy by connectivity 'through' Bangladesh. It is not in Bangladesh' interest to allow this or help the cause.

Our objective is simple, we want to keep them as suppliers and backwaters to the Bangladesh economy, as suppliers of raw material, industrial inputs and consumers of our products at a general level. This is what their natural geographic situation and reality is and it will never change.

India does not have the wherewithal to change this in practical terms. You can't swim against the tide and win. Indians should stop trying.

I foresee that the seven sisters will declare independence at some point especially the parts minus Assam and Meghalaya, this is what they truly deserve.

The Chinese are far more practical and visionary, and they will succeed in creating a buffer state by freeing Arunachal Pradesh from Indian clutches.
 
India wants connectivity 'through' Bangladesh, not 'to' it.

It wants to strengthen the seven sisters so they can become stronger parts of the Indian economy by connectivity 'through' Bangladesh. It is not in Bangladesh' interest to allow this or help the cause.

Our objective is simple, we want to keep them as suppliers and backwaters to the Bangladesh economy, as suppliers of raw material, industrial inputs and consumers of our products at a general level. This is what their natural geographic situation and reality is and it will never change.

India does not have the wherewithal to change this in practical terms. You can't swim against the tide and win. Indians should stop trying.

I foresee that the seven sisters will declare independence at some point especially the parts minus Assam and Meghalaya, this is what they truly deserve.

The Chinese are far more practical and visionary, and they will succeed in creating a buffer state by freeing Arunachal Pradesh from Indian clutches.
Everyone is entitled to their dreams and opinions, just as I'm entitled to laugh at delusions.

If it makes you feel better to prop yourself up and call others backwater, all the power to you mate, too bad your opinions are ignored pretty much everywhere, try the mental asylum, atleast there you'd get someone to take care after you.
 
India wants connectivity 'through' Bangladesh, not 'to' it.

It wants to strengthen the seven sisters so they can become stronger parts of the Indian economy by connectivity 'through' Bangladesh. It is not in Bangladesh' interest to allow this or help the cause.

Our objective is simple, we want to keep them as suppliers and backwaters to the Bangladesh economy, as suppliers of raw material, industrial inputs and consumers of our products at a general level. This is what their natural geographic situation and reality is and it will never change.

India does not have the wherewithal to change this in practical terms. You can't swim against the tide and win. Indians should stop trying.

I foresee that the seven sisters will declare independence at some point especially the parts minus Assam and Meghalaya, this is what they truly deserve.

The Chinese are far more practical and visionary, and they will succeed in creating a buffer state by freeing Arunachal Pradesh from Indian clutches.
Our people to people relation with NE are very low. Connectivity will increase that as well as open new business avenue. I dont care what India do with its NE.
 
India wants connectivity 'through' Bangladesh, not 'to' it.

It wants to strengthen the seven sisters so they can become stronger parts of the Indian economy by connectivity 'through' Bangladesh. It is not in Bangladesh' interest to allow this or help the cause.

Our objective is simple, we want to keep them as suppliers and backwaters to the Bangladesh economy, as suppliers of raw material, industrial inputs and consumers of our products at a general level. This is what their natural geographic situation and reality is and it will never change.

India does not have the wherewithal to change this in practical terms. You can't swim against the tide and win. Indians should stop trying.

I foresee that the seven sisters will declare independence at some point especially the parts minus Assam and Meghalaya, this is what they truly deserve.

The Chinese are far more practical and visionary, and they will succeed in creating a buffer state by freeing Arunachal Pradesh from Indian clutches.

Wake up man...it is a weekday...Daydreaming is not good for health
 
Everyone is entitled to their dreams and opinions, just as I'm entitled to laugh at delusions.

If it makes you feel better to prop yourself up and call others backwater, all the power to you mate, too bad your opinions are ignored pretty much everywhere, try the mental asylum, atleast there you'd get someone to take care after you.

If that is all you have then its pathetic.

If you have any valid counterpoints then tag me. Otherwise don't.

Not interested in characterizations and name calling...

Wake up man...it is a weekday...Daydreaming is not good for health

If you can - refute my points.
 
If that is all you have then its pathetic.

If you have any valid counterpoints then tag me. Otherwise don't.

Not interested in characterizations and name calling...
You stated the NE states to be backwater swamps beholden to Bangladesh and predicted their Independence at Bangladesh's behest. Please note the imaginary overtones on both your points.

Counterpoints are rooted on facts or events which have already occured or those that can be accurately extrapolated based on current data.

For example, note the difference between the following two lines of arguments:

1)I posit that Mars will leave the solar system cuz I feel like it, you're welcome to provide a counterpoint.

2) China's rise as a superpower will threaten USA hegemony, please provide a counterpoint.


How can there be a back and forth discussion on fantasies?

You're entitled to them, however remote their probability.
 
You stated the NE states to be backwater swamps beholden to Bangladesh and predicted their Independence at Bangladesh's behest. Please note the imaginary overtones on both your points.

Counterpoints are rooted on facts or events which have already occured or those that can be accurately extrapolated based on current data.

For example, note the difference between the following two lines of arguments:

1)I posit that Mars will leave the solar system cuz I feel like it, you're welcome to provide a counterpoint.

2) China's rise as a superpower will threaten USA hegemony, please provide a counterpoint.


How can there be a back and forth discussion on fantasies?

You're entitled to them, however remote their probability.

I don't think you consider practical and logical evidence (meaning facts).

And you seem to be bent on discrediting my comments, not countering them, typical desi behavior...

Which means only one thing, you don't know much factually about the subject, and as a result you are simply trying to mis-characterize my credibility. In your comment you haven't mentioned a single factual thing that counters my points.

Bangladesh historically did not have strong trade relationships with the seven sisters (other than forestry and mineral imports as well as FMCG commodity exports), this is now increasing by the day, month, year. CM's of Meghalaya, Assam, Nagaland are telling their own media they seek far closer relationship with Bangladesh. In the last year alone, all have come to Dhaka to establish better trade relationship with Bangladesh. They are desperate. Google it - this is FACT.

NE Indians have finally realized it is NOT in their interest to pander to Indian Central govt., they have seen the results for the past seventy years. Only thing the center knows how to do is steal Assamese oil and other mineral/forest resources through pipelines and offers nothing in return. No investments nor any social advancements. Infrastructure investments from the center have also been minimal.

When NE Indians (Nagas etc.) go to Delhi, they get called 'Chinki' and get beat up or otherwise abused. We all know these issues.

There is no basic industry in the seven sister states, no avenue of gainful employment, they have to go to other Indian states to work and face discrimination.Their low population level is what saved them somehow.

India has so far horribly neglected the seven sisters, which these state govts. are painfully aware of. But this 'Chalta hai' attitude no longer suits the inhabitants of these states when they see what is happening in Bangladesh.

They have seen the future and there can be no holding back now. Bangladesh remains at the ready to assist the NE Indians in their quest for greater self-realization and eventually - independence.

This is the only logical outcome from what exists currently.
 
It wants to strengthen the seven sisters so they can become stronger parts of the Indian economy by connectivity 'through' Bangladesh.

Correct.

It is not in Bangladesh' interest to allow this or help the cause.

Why? We will pay tariff.

Why do Bangladeshis hate money? This is the most intriguing question in 2019.

Our objective is simple, we want to keep them as suppliers and backwaters to the Bangladesh economy, as suppliers of raw material, industrial inputs and consumers of our products at a general level. This is what their natural geographic situation and reality is and it will never change.

Based and redpilled. But the only raw material you import from India is cotton, which comes from West India. Here we have another important question for current year. Why is every Bangladeshi member of PDF so completely ignorant about absolutely everything?

Our people to people relation with NE are very low. Connectivity will increase that as well as open new business avenue. I dont care what India do with its NE.

NE people hate Bengalis. They hate Hindu Bengalis more than Muslims.
 
But what reason is this ? Why they will hate Hindu Bengalis more than Muslim Bengalis ? Just curious!

In general migration/refugee issue.

Bengal is a giant neighbor of NE India. Over the past century millions of Bengalis have migrated into NE - primarily into the fertile Brahmaputra valley in Asssam - pushing the local demographic balance out of order.

After 1947 another province Tripura got shafted when millions of Hindu Bengali refugees overran that place. Local Tripuris became a minority and Bengalis completely overtook the state. Local Tripuris today make up only 1/3rd of Tripura's population.

So now rest of the small provinces in this area are terrified. Hence the NRC s**tshow. Obviously they don't care about the religion of the newcomers. They are Bengalis. That's it.

Why hate Hindu Bengalis more? Well, Muslim Bengalis keep a low profile. And in Assam many of them even declared themselves as Assamese speakers after 1947.

OTOH Hindu Bengalis can't stop blathering about how great they are, how cultured they are, muh Bengali 'Renaissance' and how they are superior to the NE locals. So they are hated more.
 
In general migration/refugee issue.

Bengal is a giant neighbor of NE India. Over the past century millions of Bengalis have migrated into NE - primarily into the fertile Brahmaputra valley in Asssam - pushing the local demographic balance out of order.

After 1947 another province Tripura got shafted when millions of Hindu Bengali refugees overran that place. Local Tripuris became a minority and Bengalis completely overtook the state. Local Tripuris today make up only 1/3rd of Tripura's population.

So now rest of the small provinces in this area are terrified. Hence the NRC s**tshow. Obviously they don't care about the religion of the newcomers. They are Bengalis. That's it.

Why hate Hindu Bengalis more? Well, Muslim Bengalis keep a low profile. And in Assam many of them even declared themselves as Assamese speakers after 1947.

OTOH Hindu Bengalis can't stop blathering about how great they are, how cultured they are, muh Bengali 'Renaissance' and how they are superior to the NE locals. So they are hated more.
Okay I have understood . Thank you.
 
But the only raw material you import from India is cotton, which comes from West India. Here we have another important question for current year. Why is every Bangladeshi member of PDF so completely ignorant about absolutely everything?

Wrong! You have little information and you act like you know everything. Bangladesh imports coal, clinker (huge amounts for cement industry) and forestry products from India as well among other things (agricultural products as well), the last three from NE states. Google it.

OTOH Hindu Bengalis can't stop blathering about how great they are, how cultured they are, muh Bengali 'Renaissance' and how they are superior to the NE locals.

Bengalis are generally way more cultured, educated and urbane than the rest of the crass semi-educated communal gandoos in Western India or Bihar (which seems to be your background it seems).

In Bangladesh we make fun of Kolkata dadas for their kanjoosi, but they are culturally several notches above those in Maharashtra, Punjab and several other so called 'high income' states. Your words are just simple jealousy.

Bengal fell behind economically because of communism, but I have intrinsic respect for their level of education, philosophy and higher cultural values (Thank God they are way less communal than the rest of the Indian idiots) - and I am personally not from West Bengal either.

Treating West Bengal dadas/didis with disdain and hate doesn't matter. Everyone knows where Bengali people are culturally. If in doubt, just look at your film and music industry and their leaders. That will be enough.

India's national anthem was written by a Bengali (Tagore) for God's sake. What West Bengal thinks today - India thinks tomorrow.

Try better next time than to paint false narratives.

Why? We will pay tariff.

Why do Bangladeshis hate money? This is the most intriguing question in 2019.

Indians are number one cheater group when it comes to ANY business transaction. There is little if any tariff being paid right now. Please google and see what the tariff rates are. They are laughable.
 
I have intrinsic respect for their level of education

What do you mean by 'their'? You are a Bong yourself.

There is little if any tariff being paid right now. Please google and see what the tariff rates are. They are laughable.

Some days back there was a post saying the tariff are actually so high that Indian truckers avoid the route through BD altogether. What are you on about? BD needs to drastically reduce the tariff to actually earn some revenue.

Speaking of imports...

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Total - $7.05B
Cotton (Raw/Semi-Processed) - $2.21B
Coal - $0.046B

See what I mean?
 
What do you mean by 'their'? You are a Bong yourself.



Some days back there was a post saying the tariff are actually so high that Indian truckers avoid the route through BD altogether. What are you on about? BD needs to drastically reduce the tariff to actually earn some revenue.

  • Don't call me 'Bong'. Whatever slang terms you use within India has little to do with the rest of the world. We don't care about such names. Anyone can play at the name-calling game. Don't make us start.
  • Tariff is not high. Like I said multiple times, it is laughably low. If Indian truckers are kanjoos - and complain about these already low tariffs - not much to say.
  • BD doesn't 'need' to do jack squat. We don't care about whatever tariff charged - which is negligible anyway. It is none of our concern if India has to pass through Bangladesh to save a few hundred miles of route. Not our job to 'save' the seven sisters. You want us to do a favor and we'd rather decline.
  • This an unpopular issue within Bangladesh and is considered a huge security risk. Only Awami Indian bootlickers are doing this at Indian govt. bidding and even they have their doubts.
 
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