Delegation from the UAE and Bahrain visited the western wall to celebrate hanukkah

[PAKISTANFOREVER]

If fighting for Islam has destroyed me, I'd gladly do it even more.
I know that Pakistan is the only country that stands up and fights for oppressed Muslims around the globe, and the efforts of other countries in front of us are pretty much peanuts, but if not us then who?
I know our burden is too much, but everyone here (probably) would sacrifice their lives for the cause of Islam if we have to.

Our loyalties are to Pakistan whose loyalties are to Islam.
Never forget that we're an ideological state, you can hate that ideology as much as you want, but fact will remain fact. We believe in the concept of Ummah(what our Prophet (PBUH) wanted for us) when everyone has forgotten it. Let it be.
We don't have to follow what others do.

That's right. We fight for so called "oppressed Muslims" who have a higher living standard and gdp per capita than Pakistan does. In the meantime, many Pakistanis are dying of starvation and other Pakistanis do nothing about it as they are too busy worshipping and fighting for people who regard Pakistanis as lower than subhuman. This is thought process is better known as retarded low IQ mullah logic.

They are after Makkah and Madina. That's what they will do against us.

Been hearing that since 1990. Instead the Saudis and Israelis are now thriving and embracing each other whereas Pakistan is in danger of becoming more poor than sub-saharan africa due to retarded low IQ failed mullah logic. In some ways we are already there.

Do the israeli?
Why are you waving the israeli and Jewish flag.
I have never seen you so passionate about Pakistan. Like the treacherous khaleeji's your true colours are coming out.
Change you name to ISRAELFOR.....

I am PAKISTANFOREVER not ARAB/PALESTINIANFOREVER. I will do whatever is in Pakistan's best interest. I don't give a flying hoot about foreigners just like they don't give a damn about Pakistan and Pakistanis. If it means Pakistan getting stronger than yes I am happy to have full diplomatic relations with Israel just like the Palestinians do with india.

 

[PAKISTANFOREVER]

Pakistan is not instructed to do so, except for the views of some internet boys, the majority of Pakistanis do want us to be some global Islamic superhero. Be it the Afghans, Rohingyas, Somalis, Arabs, Bosnians or Chechens.
I will say this again if other countries are Muslim by name, doesn't mean we have to follow suite. Let us be the real Muslims if we have to, I still don't see anything wrong with any of this. Yes, some Non-Muslims support the Kashmiri and Muslim causes, but we very well know what the majority is.

We Pakistanis help afghans for over 40 years. They then come to Pakistan and carry out terrrorist attacks, killing and murdering over 70,000 Pakistanis including shooting Pakistani school children aged 11 to 14 in their heads. If that's what you call the ummah then "F**K it.

 

[bahadur]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1338530732491337732

very good development.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1338530732491337732

very good news for world peace , down with terrorists.

 

[Oublious]

The question isn't if Israel is good or bad... The question is ... Do the Palestinians get their rights now or never.

No they will get nothing, Emiraties are searching for alliences and not for peace. And not only that they managed to find shelter against Biden. Jewish lobby will protect them, Yemen and Africa. Emiraties financed a lot of terror in Africa, tople a goverment and split the country in pieces. We are talking about Sudan. Or Libya wher they managed to bring Russians with France.

The list goes on, Emiraties doesn't care about Palestins. Believe me Quds is nothing but burden for gulfies, next step wil Emiraties will invest a lot of money in Israel. Ther will big bussines trafic between the two countries.

Jews didn't care more then 50 years why will they care about Arabs betrayed by Arabs .Wait i remember i have read here from another Arab member. I am Qouting the poor bastard, Arabs protecting from Arabs.

Quds is a lost cause for now. Another 50 years occupation for Palestine. May Allah give the patience what i don't have.

 

[Neurath]

We Pakistanis help afghans for over 40 years. They then come to Pakistan and carry out terrrorist attacks, killing and murdering over 70,000 Pakistanis including shooting Pakistani school children aged 11 to 14 in their heads. If that's what you call the ummah then "F**K it.

TTP was formed when we bent to American pressure and entered Pakistan's tribal areas. Some locals didn't like it. Afghan Taliban are the Ummah guys and those are the ones who we are working with against the US.
TTP is nothing Islamic, only goal is to make the army leave the tribal areas. Well now that Indian money is getting in the hands of them, one must be careful as their objectives could now be anything.

My question to you is why are you so anti-Ummah. Unless you haven't studied Pakistan's history, we are built on the concept of Ummah, that is what has kept us united uptil now.
We had multiple ethnicities who all wanted to establish their own ethnostates mainly Balochis wanted and want to be independent, a few pashtuns wanted to be independent, a few sindhis today want to be independent but what has kept the majority united is Islam itself. It is the concept that religion is greater than race and just as our Prophet (PBUH) wanted we should unite and not care about race at all. That is the concept of Ummah, remain united. Otherwise Pakistan would've been dissolved into selfish states who worship their ethnicities.

That's right. We fight for so called "oppressed Muslims" who have a higher living standard and gdp per capita than Pakistan does. In the meantime, many Pakistanis are dying of starvation and other Pakistanis do nothing about it as they are too busy worshipping and fighting for people who regard Pakistanis as lower than subhuman. This is thought process is better known as retarded low IQ mullah logic.

Their lives were at risk.
Also the Chechens, Bosnians, Somalis ,the Afghans and everyone else we helped didn't have a higher living standard or gdp per capita than Pakistanis.
I just want you to know, when you talk about Pakistani "nationalism", you should know that Pakistan is built on an Islamic concept of Islamic Unity over Ethnicity. That is literally Ummah itself.
If you call your self a nationalist and don't even care about this concept, your not a nationalist but a ignorant and that is just how it is.
If it wasn't for the Ummah thing Iqbal wanted, Quaid wanted, as I said in my last post Pakistan would be divided into multiple countries by now.

 

[Cherub786]

TTP was formed when we bent to American pressure and entered Pakistan's tribal areas. Some locals didn't like it. Afghan Taliban are the Ummah guys and those are the ones who we are working with against the US.
TTP is nothing Islamic, only goal is to make the army leave the tribal areas. Well now that Indian money is getting in the hands of them, one must be careful as their objectives could now be anything.

My question to you is why are you so anti-Ummah. Unless you haven't studied Pakistan's history, we are built on the concept of Ummah, that is what has kept us united uptil now.
We had multiple ethnicities who all wanted to establish their own ethnostates mainly Balochis wanted and want to be independent, a few pashtuns wanted to be independent, a few sindhis today want to be independent but what has kept the majority united is Islam itself. It is the concept that religion is greater than race and just as our Prophet (PBUH) wanted we should unite and not care about race at all. That is the concept of Ummah, remain united. Otherwise Pakistan would've been dissolved into selfish states who worship their ethnicities.

If you want to talk about Ummah then keep in mind Ummah transcends Pakistan's national interests too. We have to be willing to criticize our own State if it acts in a way that is detrimental to the Ummah at large.
Case in point, Pakistani State's deafening silence on the genocide of the Uighurs

 

[Neurath]

If you want to talk about Ummah then keep in mind Ummah transcends Pakistan's national interests too. We have to be willing to criticize our own State if it acts in a way that is detrimental to the Ummah at large.
Case in point, Pakistani State's deafening silence on the genocide of the Uighurs

I understand your point and wrote a large paragraph about it in some other thread.
Well the thing is, unlike those trillion dollar economies and big militaries that other countries enjoy, Pakistan is a relatively backward country but still everyone's efforts in front of us are peanuts.
We managed to do more than any other country despite having a much weaker economy and military.
Unless you don't know, Pakistan funded Uighurs in the 90s as well but had to back off after the Chinese figured it out.
Sometimes, it is best to wait, Pakistan is not in a position of strength right now? Is it?
We are surrounded by hostile neighbors from all side who we've helped greatly in the past but what can you do about snakes?
China is a relief, at least our Northern border is safe.
In the 70s the Soviet Union did a lot of injustices with Central Asian Muslims I believe, but ZAB was in bed with the Soviets and wouldn't dare speak about it. Next decade Zia brought an end to all Soviet expansionist objectives in Asia once and for all.
Sometimes, its better to wait it out. Knowing the nature of the ISI and the military, I can 100% tell you that every Uighur life lost will be avenged, sooner or later once we are strong on our feet enough.
When needed, we can shift to the Americans and again fund some Jihadi movements, no problem really.
Alliances are temporary my man.

 

[Cherub786]

I understand your point and wrote a large paragraph about it in some other thread.
Well the thing is, unlike those trillion dollar economies and big militaries that other countries enjoy, Pakistan is a relatively backward country but still everyone's efforts in front of us are peanuts.
We managed to do more than any other country despite having a much weaker economy and military.
Unless you don't know, Pakistan funded Uighurs in the 90s as well but had to back off after the Chinese figured it out.
Sometimes, it is best to wait, Pakistan is not in a position of strength right now? Is it?
We are surrounded by hostile neighbors from all side who we've helped greatly in the past but what can you do about snakes?
China is a relief, at least our Northern border is safe.
In the 70s the Soviet Union did a lot of injustices with Central Asian Muslims I believe, but ZAB was in bed with the Soviets and wouldn't dare speak about it. Next decade Zia brought an end to all Soviet expansionist objectives in Asia once and for all.
Sometimes, its better to wait it out. Knowing the nature of the ISI and the military, I can 100% tell you that every Uighur life lost will be avenged, sooner or later once we are strong on our feet enough.
When needed, we can shift to the Americans and again fund some Jihadi movements, no problem really.
Alliances are temporary my man.

No one is saying Pakistan should supply arms to the Uighurs so they can fight the Chinese, the way we supplied arms to the Afghan mujahidin against the Soviets. But when Imran Khan says he doesn't even know about the Uighur issue that is whole other level of Chinese @ss kissing. Pakistan can't even voice support for the Uighurs for fear of China. Turkey also has to tamper its criticism of China on the Uighur question, but at least they are allowing for that criticism.
The truth is Pakistan is totally beholden to China. The ISI and Deep State are simply not concerned with Uighurs, contrary to your claim that they will one day avenge their genocide.
The bitter truth is that it is America, the British, the Australians and some other Western nations that have been the most vocal in their support of the Uighur Muslims, the most passionate in their condemnation of China in that regard. So from an Ummah perspective, we have to appreciate that.

 

[Neurath]

No one is saying Pakistan should supply arms to the Uighurs so they can fight the Chinese, the way we supplied arms to the Afghan mujahidin against the Soviets. But when Imran Khan says he doesn't even know about the Uighur issue that is whole other level of Chinese @ss kissing. Pakistan can't even voice support for the Uighurs for fear of China. Turkey also has to tamper its criticism of China on the Uighur question, but at least they are allowing for that criticism.
The truth is Pakistan is totally beholden to China. The ISI and Deep State are simply not concerned with Uighurs, contrary to your claim that they will one day avenge their genocide.
The bitter truth is that it is America, the British, the Australians and some other Western nations that have been the most vocal in their support of the Uighur Muslims, the most passionate in their condemnation of China in that regard. So from an Ummah perspective, we have to appreciate that.

I appreciate them but we very well know that the only reason they're doing it is because of their rivalry with China, not because they care about those lives, they only want to beat China in some way and the other.
The hypocrisy of the West is something everyone on this forum is well aware of.
When you say that the ISI and Deep State is not concerned about Uighurs, you're clearly being ignorant of history. Pakistan has always retaliated and we will do that. Wait and see.

 

[Abu Dhabi]

No they will get nothing,

I have to say i do agree with you. Especially if the Palestinian government continues being immature and childish and NOT put the well-being of their own people as a top priority.

Bloomberg - Are you a robot?

$50m UAE aid for Palestinian mums, kids

UN agency to provide health services, implement education programmes for refugees

gulfnews.com

Palestinians reject aid from UAE again

The Palestinian Authority accuses the UAE of seeking to normalize ties with Israel after the UAE sends a medical aid flight to Israel.

www.al-monitor.com

 

[Oublious]

I have to say i do agree with you. Especially if the Palestinian government continues being immature and childish and NOT put the well-being of their own people as a top priority.

Bloomberg - Are you a robot?

$50m UAE aid for Palestinian mums, kids

UN agency to provide health services, implement education programmes for refugees

gulfnews.com

Palestinians reject aid from UAE again

The Palestinian Authority accuses the UAE of seeking to normalize ties with Israel after the UAE sends a medical aid flight to Israel.

www.al-monitor.com

https://www.facebook.com/video.php?v=467195111344642

 

[Abu Dhabi]

https://www.facebook.com/video.php?v=467195111344642

the IDF and Settlers do bad things ? yeah we all know , don't get the point of posting this specific video though. So much worse out there.

 

[Oublious]

the IDF and Settlers do bad things ? yeah we all know , don't get the point of posting this specific video though. So much worse out there.

What i want to say is your buddies jews don't give a fak about your demand with stop occupy palestine. And your aid is irrelevant as long jews block the money and goods to enter Gaza.

 

[Abu Dhabi]

What i want to say is your buddies jews don't give a fak about your demand with stop occupy palestine. And your aid is irrelevant as long jews block the money and goods to enter Gaza.

we will continue demanding it though just like Pakistanis. Even when Israelis don't give a fark about emirate or Pakistani demands.

also , the sources i linked show the Palestinian authority rejecting humanitarian aid and covid-19 medical assistance due to the UAE starting relations with Israelis. How childish and obnoxious of them !

 

[BATMAN]

Gulfies gone wild! Next stop Cancun.

Don't worry in reply Imran Khan and his Irani company will build grand mandir right in middle of Islamabad, IMF will give many $ billions for the project, which will generate jobs for PTI tigers.