Del-Varanasi bullet train may cover 782km in 3 hrs

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The Southern cities are the highest revenue generators in India, and has the highest concentration of white collar jobs...honestly, how does Varanasi compare to any of the main Southern cities?.

You missed my point.

Since southern cities have all those good features, that's why they are better equipped with air assets. The new investment should go for weaker zones to bring them on par.

Once done, hopefully southern cities will not have monopoly to claim all white collar jobs, western, eastern and nothern cities will grow as well

 

[illusion8]

Mumbai generates 1/3rd of India's tax revenues.Delhi is second and the rest don't even compare.

where did you get these figures from??

You missed my point.

Since southern cities have all those good features, that's why they are better equipped with air assets. The new investment should go for weaker zones to bring them on par.

Once done, hopefully southern cities will not have monopoly to claim all white collar jobs, western, eastern and nothern cities will grow as well

The venture needs to make money -there are a lot many potential users down south compared to Varanasi.

 

[Ryuzaki]

where did you get these figures from??



The venture needs to make money -there are a lot many potential users down south compared to Varanasi.

Google "Mumbai 33% income tax".You will find many source.The belief that that southern cities are some sort of treasure trove is a myth

 

[illusion8]

Google "Mumbai 33% income tax".You will find many source.The belief that that southern cities are some sort of treasure trove is a myth

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/States_of_India_by_tax_revenues

Better than that, let me bust your claim - Check out the top 5

 

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The venture needs to make money -there are a lot many potential users down south compared to Varanasi.

But the point is creating new avenue. You are ignoring this aspect.

 

[livingdead]

Google "Mumbai 33% income tax".You will find many source.The belief that that southern cities are some sort of treasure trove is a myth

thats because lots of businesses have office in mumbai and they find it convenient to file tax there. the bulk of business activity might happen elsewhere. Its very misleading to say mumbai pays 33% tax revenue.

 

[Abingdonboy]

what idiocy is this ? GOI should start concentrating on building a HSR route b/w bang-hyd or bang-chennai or chennai-bang. This project would break even quicker than the rest. Modi should act as a P.M of India, not just North India.

The Southern cities are the highest revenue generators in India, and has the highest concentration of white collar jobs...honestly, how does Varanasi compare to any of the main Southern cities?.

HSR in other parts of the country are not mutually exclusive events, multiple HSR lines will be pursued simultaneously. Just look at the DFC model- initially Eastern and Western were cleared now 3 more have been cleared; all in the south of India and all to be built in parallel.

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Get Japan to fund this line. They may actually find an emotional connect with this project considering involvement of Bodh Gaya and the fact that they are technically and financially funding Mumbai Ahmadabad line, will make it easier (& perhaps cheaper) to extend same setup to Delhi Calcutta line.

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But if it is the Spanish that are executing the DEL-KOL line would the Japanese fund it? The Japanese are using their own tech for the AHBD-MUM line and insisting on Japanese freight trains for the WDFC that they are also partially funding.

The venture needs to make money -there are a lot many potential users down south compared to Varanasi.

These HSR lines are being made with a very long term vision, whilst they may not seem to be economically viable today in 15-20 years they could quite easily be. With the rapid growth of the Indian economy during that economy as well as (hopefully) a serious increase in the number of tourists in India this line could easily be profitable.

And as stated the South of India has very good air connectivity- Bangalore, Chennai and Hydrabad have some of the best airports in India and smaller regional airports are being set up faster in the South than any other part of India.

 

[anant_s]

Spanish that are executing

Its a feasibility contract and i'm not sure if they are actually going to execute the EPC Contract

The Japanese are using their own tech for the AHBD-MUM line and insisting on Japanese freight trains for the WDFC that they are also partially funding.

That was a pre-condition for JICA loan. Essentially what Japan is doing is to fund a project and generate business for domestic industry. Infact a lot of Engineering contracts have gone to Japanese companies (either standalone or in JV).

 

[Rajaraja Chola]

I do not see how connecting with Varanasi with HSR even makes sense. I can understand Delhi Kolkata or Delhi Agra or Delhi- Lucknow.
But Varnasi? Its a temple town for god's sake.

 

[Sky lord]

Surprising choice. Did they do a feasibility study for all routes?

It seems more of a political decision than an economic one.

The people most likely to use expensive but time saver transportation methods are businesses. So HSR should connect centers of high economic activity not tourism or pilgrimage.

Pilgrims have time and want to save money, they would travel by whatever means is most economical even if it means a little more time. More regular trains than HSR.

Mumbai - Bangalore or Bangalore - Hyderabad makes more sense.

 

[itachii]

Mumbai is not in North India.And chennai people wound want free bullet train tickets

lol, anything across the vindhyas is north to southies. For all the freebies that TN people get they are among the top states in almost all the indicatiors, be it social, economic or industrialization, you need to give them that.

how many BJP or NDA MPs from South ??

for the same reason NE was neglected for so long !!

They won't win more, if this Bias continues.

These cities are better connected via air, thus viability of HSR is much less.

Still an HSR b/w these cities will generate a larger income for capital invested than an HSR b/w del-varnasi any day. 10-15 yrs down the line an HSR b/w these cities will only compensate the air traffic, which is ever increasing.

Mumbai generates 1/3rd of India's tax revenues.Delhi is second and the rest don't even compare.

No one complained about del-mum route, it is del-varanasi that doesn't make anysense.

But the point is creating new avenue. You are ignoring this aspect.

ok tell me this, are you going to run the trains with empty coaches ?? a semi HSR makes more sense than an HSR on these lines.

HSR in other parts of the country are not mutually exclusive events, multiple HSR lines will be pursued simultaneously. Just look at the DFC model- initially Eastern and Western were cleared now 3 more have been cleared; all in the south of India and all to be built in parallel.

My point was more on economic sense. Projects of these kind should be built on viability and not bcz varnasi happens to be the constituency of PM.

 

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ok tell me this, are you going to run the trains with empty coaches ?? a semi HSR makes more sense than an HSR on these lines.

And what is your base to say this? You think any line coming to national capital will have no traffic?

Anyways, I look at this as an investment to create new avenues, not as a straight profit making venture.

 

[itachii]

And what is your base to say this? You think any line coming to national capital will have no traffic?

No. but, the proportion of people that spend cost of an air ticket to move b/w delhi-varnasi is very miniscule.

Anyways, I look at this as an investment to create new avenues, not as a straight profit making venture.

The entire nation has to bare the expenses and debt to build this HSR. It has to be invested in areas that has economic sense. There are many other ways to develop U.P, but for that to happen people of U.P should vote on basis of development, not on caste formations.

 

[Sky lord]

And what is your base to say this? You think any line coming to national capital will have no traffic?

Anyways, I look at this as an investment to create new avenues, not as a straight profit making venture.

It's not enough to have traffic but the "kind" of traffic is important. HSR will cost as much as airfare. In that part of the world people hardly like to pay normal train ticket cost let alone HSR.

Mumabi - Bangalore or Bangalore -Hyderabad has much more potential for business use and spin offs.

 

[jaiind]

There should be HSR b/w chennai and howrah. it has a good source of revenue as part of east coast corridor