Definitive shift in Chinese foreign policy

[Zero_wing]

We already grabbed Scarborough Shoal and nobody was brave enough to challenge us

because your invaders stealing natural resources that is ours to being with and you have only a de facto control we still have de jure control over the shoal the PCG is still there so boast all you want insult all you want your country still a thief and expansionist a problem that you people have created by arrogantly taking from other countries. So put that on your @$$!

 

[Aegis DDG]

Yes, we are rewinding the clock. The Chinese empire is back with a vengeance like the Mongol Yuan empire with ~300 megatons of nuclear deterrence. Don't say Napoleon didn't warn you.

Brainfart and Hype. The USAF has Many Satalittes that monitors the PLA's nuclear deterrence. And the JMSDF will kick Chicom ***.

 

[S10]

Sorry, that's enough to say that China broke the letter and spirit of what it committed to in UNCLOS. Don't think that China's leaders and top diplomats don't know that.

First, UNCLOS does not conflict with our claims. By signing the UNCLOS, which your country won't even put ink on by the way, we maintained water within 12 nautical miles of Spartly Islands is our territorial water. The stance was the same in 1949 and the same today. Simple because you repeat a lie about us broke a commitment, does not make your lie true.

Probably we don't; there is a difference between 300 million people traveling the ocean vs. 3 million on land. But I take your response as frank acknowledgment that China is currently a colonial power that has no intent of changing its amoral policies in the near future.

The fact that we have been involved in Tibet since the 7th Century and all Tibetan leaders must seek approval from Emperors, I'd say we have a lot stronger case to claim Tibet than you do claiming your country from the natives.

Ah, OT trolling and red herrings. Go fish!

Oh funny, I could have sworn you threw out the topic of Tibet out first. Don't start a fire when you can't stand the heat.

 

[S10]

because your invaders stealing natural resources that is ours to being with and you have only a de facto control we still have de jure control over the shoal the PCG is still there so boast all you want insult all you want your country still a thief and expansionist a problem that you people have created by arrogantly taking from other countries. So put that on your @$$!

China has de facto control over Panatag Shoal, says former DFA senior official | News | GMA News Online | The Go-To Site for Filipinos Everywhere

The foreign affairs minister of the Philippines acknowledged last week that Scarborough Shoal(Huang Yan Island according to the Chinese) is in the effective control of the Chinese.

http://www.topix.com/forum/world/china/TPNN9J9U5MAQAA3II

Keep masturbating to your dream about your coast guard being there. You are not even getting near it. That's from the mouth of your own politicians.

 

[Zero_wing]

China has de facto control over Panatag Shoal, says former DFA senior official | News | GMA News Online | The Go-To Site for Filipinos Everywhere

The foreign affairs minister of the Philippines acknowledged last week that Scarborough Shoal(Huang Yan Island according to the Chinese) is in the effective control of the Chinese.

China takes effective control of Scarborough Shoal - Topix

Keep masturbating to your dream about your coast guard being there. You are not even getting near it. That's from the mouth of your own politicians.

They are their but your ship are larger naturally they can go around and monitor the ship from a distance so why are so insist of this anyway?

Because building a stronger military against American encirclement is considered hegemony?

Then your dead one its well known that even a big animal can be taken down by a large number of small animals so don't be so confident you lose most of the wars you fought hell you even lose battles to us in the Korean war so don't get cockney!

Because building a stronger military against American encirclement is considered hegemony?

Then your China is on they way down! Its well known that even a big animal can be taken down by a large number of small animals so don't be so confident you lose most of the wars you fought hell you even lose battles to us in the Korean war so don't get cockney!

 

[Solomon2]

First, UNCLOS does not conflict with our claims...The stance was the same in 1949 and the same today.

Resuming the 1949 claim does not negate the fact that China had withdrawn much of this claim by signing UNCLOS.

The fact that we have been involved in Tibet since the 7th Century and all Tibetan leaders must seek approval from Emperors, I'd say we have a lot stronger case to claim Tibet -

The correct parallel is the attempt of the English to conquer, settle, and rule Ireland, an effort that continued, on and off, for even longer than China's affair with Tibet. Only in the 20th century was an independent Ireland allowed to exist after many centuries of unhappy and murderous history.

 

[S10]

Resuming the 1949 claim does not negate the fact that China had withdrawn much of this claim by signing UNCLOS.

Resuming the claim would mean we renounced our 1949 claim, which is not the case. We drew the 9 dotted line based on UNCLOS.

The correct parallel is the attempt of the English to conquer, settle, and rule Ireland, an effort that continued, on and off, for even longer than China's affair with Tibet. Only in the 20th century was an independent Ireland allowed to exist after many centuries of unhappy and murderous history.

First, the English invasion against Ireland began in the 12th Century, where ours with Tibet began in the 7th. I'm not sure if you can count time correctly, but that's beside the point. Tibet has not been an independent entity since the Yuan dynasty. Every Tibetan leader since that time must be approved, though they enjoyed autonomy. Like I said, we have alot stronger case to Tibet than United States to North America. Oh you know what else? Tibetan separatist likes to include parts of Qinghai and Sichuan as their "greater Tibet", when those areas are more than 50% Han.

They are their but your ship are larger naturally they can go around and monitor the ship from a distance so why are so insist of this anyway?

You have a link for that? Or is that you dreaming again?

Then your dead one its well known that even a big animal can be taken down by a large number of small animals so don't be so confident you lose most of the wars you fought hell you even lose battles to us in the Korean war so don't get cockney!

Then your China is on they way down! Its well known that even a big animal can be taken down by a large number of small animals so don't be so confident you lose most of the wars you fought hell you even lose battles to us in the Korean war so don't get cockney!

Oh I'm shaking in my boots. Please don't hurt us by throwing your monkey bananas.

 

[Solomon2]

Resuming the claim would mean we renounced our 1949 claim, which is not the case. We drew the 9 dotted line based on UNCLOS.

Who in the U.N. other than China thinks that?

First, the English invasion against Ireland began in the 12th Century, where ours with Tibet began in the 7th...I'm not sure if you can count time correctly, but that's beside the point. Tibet has not been an independent entity since the Yuan dynasty.

First "English" invasion of Ireland was 684. China (excluding Mongol rule period) started messing with Tibet's government in the 1600s. Tibet ruled itself from 1912-1950 and China even had to fight off a Tibetan invasion during that period. Tibet succumbed to overwhelming Communist military power in 1950. The Communist conquest was especially noted for its propensity for bombing monasteries.

Tibetan separatist likes to include parts of Qinghai and Sichuan as their "greater Tibet", when those areas are more than 50% Han.

I did know. But it's no secret now that China plans to drive the native Tibetan population into obscurity at least after working forty years to destroy Tibet as a separate culture.

 

[S10]

Who in the U.N. other than China thinks that?

Certainly not a country that won't even sign the UNCLOS.

First "English" invasion of Ireland was 684. China (excluding Mongol rule period) started messing with Tibet's government in the 1600s. Tibet ruled itself from 1912-1950 and China even had to fight off a Tibetan invasion during that period. Tibet succumbed to overwhelming Communist military power in 1950. The Communist conquest was especially noted for its propensity for bombing monasteries.

The Norman, which conquered the Saxons in Britain, invaded Ireland in 12th Century. Here is a hint: Normans were not from England. To dismiss Yuan dynasty as a non-Chinese dynasty is simply absurd. Kublai, upon conquest of Southern Song dynasty, took the title of Emperor and adopted Han traditions. In fact, most government officials were of Han origin during the reign of the Yuan. Every dynasty since had the power to approve Tibetan leaders, including the ROC which had an army garrison in the region. We freed Tibet from the shackles of feudalism in the 1950s, and modernized the region. Even better, 50% of all government positions are reserved for Tibetans in the area, and they enjoy special benefits.

We treated them helluva lot better than whites treated the American natives, or Zionist Joos treated Palestinians.

I did know. But it's no secret now that China plans to drive the native Tibetan population into obscurity at least after working forty years to destroy Tibet as a separate culture.

That's a funny claim considering the fact that Tibetan population more than doubled since 1950. We didn't implement your concentration camp...oops I mean reserve system for them. We certainly didn't kill them for sport and drove them to extinction.

 

[Zero_wing]

ang kulit just proving china is a rouge state even more dangerous that North Korea

 

[Solomon2]

Certainly not a country that won't even sign the UNCLOS.

I will take that as a confession that you see my point.

The Norman...To dismiss Yuan dynasty as a non-Chinese dynasty is simply absurd...

We've gotten too far OT.

That's a funny claim considering the fact that Tibetan population more than doubled since 1950...We certainly didn't kill them for sport -

I didn't make such claims. It's up to you to explain why China's military destroyed thousands of monasteries.

 

[S10]

I will take that as a confession that you see my point.

Confession? The UN has not ruled on the matter nor do they have the juristiction to.

We've gotten too far OT.

Don't throw out topics to derail a discussion if you aren't prepared to go there.

I didn't make such claims. It's up to you to explain why China's military destroyed thousands of monasteries.

We freed the ordinary Tibetans from the shackles of religious caste system, by removing the power of the monks and redistributing lands to peasants. Same reforms the Communists carried out elsewhere in China since 1949.

 

[Fahad Khan 2]

"China does not seek hegemony around the world or in Asia, but must form and maintain military superiority in certain regions to ensure any opponent would not be able to win in a war. Without a question, China eagerly wants to be a friend of United States. However, United States believes in a motto of "If you can't beat them, join them (or whoever you can't dominate is your friend)". Thus, becoming a nation impossible for United States to win over miliarily is the basis for equal friendship between the two countries."

Either you r with us or not(enemy) you cant be neutral.....

 

[Zero_wing]

Delete all you can but can't change the facts of china's evil

 

[RIMPAC]

Delete all you can but can't change the facts of china's evil

Can someone ban this troll. He trolls and we respond and we get the warning/infraction/ban.