Defence 'to be cut by £1BILLION'

[Gabriel92]

I have 2 explanations or :

-Uk is cut from the rest of the world and doesn't know what's happening on our doors.
-Politicians are blind. (Need to buy glasses.)

Anyway,any Economy minister doesn't care about armed forces,that's the truth. (I remember when ours wanted to cut the Defence budget from ~1.5% of the GDP actually to 1.1)

Cut the foreign aid,and you will have what you ask for...
The budgets that should be protected are : Defence,Health,Home Office and Education..

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Defence 'to be cut by £1BILLION': Move could hit operations overseas as Osborne seeks to reduce budgets of most government departments by extra 5 per cent

• Defence has already seen deep cuts while foreign aid budget is protected
• Sources warn cuts could lead to operational deployments being curtailed
• Comes after calls for the PM to devote 2% of national income on defence
• Treasury has told most departments to find savings amounting to £3bn

Military chiefs have been told to slash the defence budget by £1billion in a move that could hit operations overseas, it emerged last night.

The department has already suffered devastating cuts while the foreign aid budget will be protected.

Chancellor George Osborne is seeking to cut the budgets of most government departments this year by an extra five per cent, according to the Times.

As a result the Treasury has told most departments – with the exception of health, education and international development – to find savings amounting to £3billion or more before the Budget on July 8.

The move is likely to infuriate military top brass and many Tory MPs who have repeatedly called for David Cameron to commit to spending two per cent of national income on defence in line with the Nato target.

By asking the department to further slash its budget, it raises the chances of Britain missing the crucial figure which could impact the country’s relationship with the US and other nations.

Defence sources last night warned the cuts would result in military training and possibly operational deployments being curtailed or cut.

A source told the newspaper: ‘The department is on budget so you would have to stop doing a lot of stuff.’

A saving of £1billion by the end of March next year would ‘not be a thing you could just swallow and carry on’, the source said.

Mr Cameron has already promised not to slash regular troop numbers and has committed to renewing the Trident nuclear deterrent programme.

Finding £1billion in the department could therefore prove difficult and analysts have warned operations overseas could become strained.

It comes after the Prime Minister was accused of being ‘disingenious’ earlier this week after claiming Britain would remain at the ‘forefront’ of efforts to defeat the Islamic State - but made no mention of defence spending in the Queen’s speech.

Analysts said that such a reduction would make it harder for the prime minister to keep defence spending above the Nato minimum of two per cent of national income.

The U.S is putting pressure on Britain to retain defence spending above this threshold at a time of growing insecurity caused by the rise of Islamic State and the resurgence of an adversarial Russia.

It is expected to be an issue that President Obama will raise with David Cameron when they meet at a G7 summit next month in Germany.

George Osborne's budget cuts could hit Defence by £1bn slash | Daily Mail Online

 

[Jungibaaz]

I have 2 explanations or :

-Uk is cut from the rest of the world and doesn't know what's happening on our doors.
-Politicians are blind. (Need to buy glasses.)

Anyway,any Economy minister doesn't care about armed forces,that's the truth. (I remember when ours wanted to cut the Defence budget from ~1.5% of the GDP actually to 1.1)

Cut the foreign aid,and you will have what you ask for...
The budgets that should be protected are : Defence,Health,Home Office and Education..

Here's another explanation. You right wingers always cry about foreign aid and why it even exists, why we give billions abroad for humanitarian causes when we have austerity at home.

Well... same logic, why on earth should we dole out tens of billions of pounds per year to take part in wars that do nothing for us, but cause trouble at home, and kill people and cause trouble abroad? Why should we maintain a long reaching offensive capability to wage war in far away nations when we have NO imminent threat that requires us to have such forces.

Even threats like ISIS are directly a result of our stupid intervention in Iraq.

You in France are losing your mind, taking part in every conflict and war as if you'll be successful in being a force for good. Take heed from wiser men of yours like Jacque Chirac in his approach to Iraq, he was right, history proved him right.

 

[Gabriel92]

Here's another explanation. You right wingers always cry about foreign aid and why it even exists, why we give billions abroad for humanitarian causes when we have austerity at home.

Well... same logic, why on earth should we dole out tens of billions of pounds per year to take part in wars that do nothing for us, but cause trouble at home, and kill people and cause trouble abroad? Why should we maintain a long reaching offensive capability to wage war in far away nations when we have NO imminent threat that requires us to have such forces.

Even threats like ISIS are directly a result of our stupid intervention in Iraq.

You in France are losing your mind, taking part in every conflict and war as if you'll be successful in being a force for good. Take heed from wiser men of yours like Jacque Chirac in his approach to Iraq, he was right, history proved him right.

If you aren't happy with our foreign policy,you can send a message to our president. (Yes you really can)

Ecrire au Président de la République - Présidence de la République

 

[Jungibaaz]

If you aren't happy with our foreign policy,you can send a message to our president. (Yes you really can)

Ecrire au Président de la République - Présidence de la République

No need, you'll learn in a few years. I've been repeatedly proven right about this sort of stuff, as have many of those that have been unwilling to go to war.

If your president and warlords, yes I'm calling them warlords, will learn soon enough their failures, it seems that the warlords in the US, UK and France, only learn from bitter experience.

It seems even accidentally creating ISIS is not enough of a lesson.

 

[Gabriel92]

No need, you'll learn in a few years. I've been repeatedly proven right about this sort of stuff, as have many of those that have been unwilling to go to war.

If your president and warlords, yes I'm calling them warlords, will learn soon enough their failures, it seems that the warlords in the US, UK and France, only learn from bitter experience.

It seems even accidentally creating ISIS is not enough of a lesson.

Hollande learns nothing,he's being defeated in every elections,his popularity rate is the worst of all history of France,he learns nothing at home,he won't learn something outside.
Anyway,what is done is done,and nothing will change the past,so what are your ideas ?

 

[Jungibaaz]

Hollande learns nothing,he's being defeated in every elections,his popularity rate is the worst of all history of France,he learns nothing at home,he won't learn something outside.
Anyway,what is done is done,and nothing will change the past,so what are your ideas ?

European appetite for interventionism in the Middle East should be dead. Look where it has gotten us? Terrorism at home, billions of dollars wasted, thousands killed including soldiers from out countries, nations brought to the ground and newer and worse enemies rose therein.

I am 100% certain that the method of intervention employed is bound to fail. France should go back to it's older approach of leaving that place alone for the good of all, recently it seems France is expanding it's role, as a reactionary move to seismic changes in public sentiment.

France and UK should be smart about this, let the US and their nutjobs lead them to every war their hawk minds can conceive.

Though I say this in vain, the UK's foreign policy was basically sold off long ago. Despite the fact that over a million people marched against the Iraq war, it still happened.

 

[Ankit Kumar 001]

Hi
The POW will be mothballed as soon as it is completed, the order for type23 replacement will likely be cut down to 8. No further orders for typhoon and no more than a 60 F35s. That's all what the Royal forces will face. And yes I doubt they will have a replacement of Trident as soon as they think.

Just my predictions. If anyone has some serious objections please Mark my words and come back if I am proved false.

Cheers
Thanks

 

[flamer84]

European appetite for interventionism in the Middle East should be dead. Look where it has gotten us? Terrorism at home, billions of dollars wasted, thousands killed including soldiers from out countries, nations brought to the ground and newer and worse enemies rose therein.

I am 100% certain that the method of intervention employed is bound to fail. France should go back to it's older approach of leaving that place alone for the good of all, recently it seems France is expanding it's role, as a reactionary move to seismic changes in public sentiment.

France and UK should be smart about this, let the US and their nutjobs lead them to every war their hawk minds can conceive.

Though I say this in vain, the UK's foreign policy was basically sold off long ago. Despite the fact that over a million people marched against the Iraq war, it still happened.

The ME and Northern Africa is Europe's backyard,a non intervention attitude towards these 2 regions is simply a non ideea.Europe has to have a say in the regions resources output and prices and can't let herself be hostage by some Gaddafi type who wants bribes to keep terrorists and immigrants out.Yes,it would be a better ideea to cut foreign aid altogether and put those money to Defence.Forget the carrot ,just wield a big stick.

 

[ArsalanKhan21]

Brits are realizing that their empire is gone and foreign bases costs too much money. They need to cut spending and lower deficit and debt. UK will now have best economy in Europe.

 

[SrNair]

And they are still giving aid to developing nations including India.

 

[Jungibaaz]

The ME and Northern Africa is Europe's backyard,a non intervention attitude towards these 2 regions is simply a non ideea.Europe has to have a say in the regions resources output and prices and can't let herself be hostage by some Gaddafi type who wants bribes to keep terrorists and immigrants out.Yes,it would be a better ideea to cut foreign aid altogether and put those money to Defence.Forget the carrot ,just wield a big stick.

Well then, be your inevitable defeat, the ruin of a region, and further death to no avail of anything... be that on your conscience.

 

[bsruzm]

Sounds good

 

[Echo_419]

I have 2 explanations or :

-Uk is cut from the rest of the world and doesn't know what's happening on our doors.
-Politicians are blind. (Need to buy glasses.)

Anyway,any Economy minister doesn't care about armed forces,that's the truth. (I remember when ours wanted to cut the Defence budget from ~1.5% of the GDP actually to 1.1)

Cut the foreign aid,and you will have what you ask for...
The budgets that should be protected are : Defence,Health,Home Office and Education..

-

Defence 'to be cut by £1BILLION': Move could hit operations overseas as Osborne seeks to reduce budgets of most government departments by extra 5 per cent

• Defence has already seen deep cuts while foreign aid budget is protected
• Sources warn cuts could lead to operational deployments being curtailed
• Comes after calls for the PM to devote 2% of national income on defence
• Treasury has told most departments to find savings amounting to £3bn

Military chiefs have been told to slash the defence budget by £1billion in a move that could hit operations overseas, it emerged last night.

The department has already suffered devastating cuts while the foreign aid budget will be protected.

Chancellor George Osborne is seeking to cut the budgets of most government departments this year by an extra five per cent, according to the Times.

As a result the Treasury has told most departments – with the exception of health, education and international development – to find savings amounting to £3billion or more before the Budget on July 8.

The move is likely to infuriate military top brass and many Tory MPs who have repeatedly called for David Cameron to commit to spending two per cent of national income on defence in line with the Nato target.

By asking the department to further slash its budget, it raises the chances of Britain missing the crucial figure which could impact the country’s relationship with the US and other nations.

Defence sources last night warned the cuts would result in military training and possibly operational deployments being curtailed or cut.

A source told the newspaper: ‘The department is on budget so you would have to stop doing a lot of stuff.’

A saving of £1billion by the end of March next year would ‘not be a thing you could just swallow and carry on’, the source said.

Mr Cameron has already promised not to slash regular troop numbers and has committed to renewing the Trident nuclear deterrent programme.

Finding £1billion in the department could therefore prove difficult and analysts have warned operations overseas could become strained.

It comes after the Prime Minister was accused of being ‘disingenious’ earlier this week after claiming Britain would remain at the ‘forefront’ of efforts to defeat the Islamic State - but made no mention of defence spending in the Queen’s speech.

Analysts said that such a reduction would make it harder for the prime minister to keep defence spending above the Nato minimum of two per cent of national income.

The U.S is putting pressure on Britain to retain defence spending above this threshold at a time of growing insecurity caused by the rise of Islamic State and the resurgence of an adversarial Russia.

It is expected to be an issue that President Obama will raise with David Cameron when they meet at a G7 summit next month in Germany.

George Osborne's budget cuts could hit Defence by £1bn slash | Daily Mail Online

I agree with you on foreign AID
For eg we told the Brits that their aid was penuts when they thought that they could twist our foreign policy but still they continue to provide Aid to us

 

[Galad]

I have 2 explanations or :

I have another-you have problems even seeing the difference between theory(noise /cheap talk /promises/Wales summit talks) and reality on the ground-none care what USA wants(countries will not increase their defense budget since there are much urgent needs than wasting money for nothing). But of course I did not expect you to be able to see even such obvious thing.

be that on your conscience.

He has no conscience -just quickly check his posting history.He is the same like Gabriel or Markus or Boomslang...Always ready to celebrate dead and destruction done intentionally by the West.He does not care at all how many people are dead and how many will keep dying thanks to Western policies-life of the victims means absolutely nothing for Flamer and everyone else of his kind.

 

[Gabriel92]

I have another-you have problems even seeing the difference between theory(noise /cheap talk /promises) and reality on the ground-none care what USA wants(countries will not increase their defense budget since there are much urgent needs than wasting money for nothing). But of course I did not expect you to be able to see even such obvious thing.

Russia should stop increasing its defence budget(They should invest money in their infrastructures that are decaying for exemple,even Congo's look almost better,but Putin doesn't care about Russian citizens,he cares about weapons),stop being agressive toward European members. (If Russia wants to prevent European countries from joining NATO,Russia sould stop acting agressively.)
Everything will be ok then.
Goodbye.