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[Farooq]

Mr we have to follow Quran and Sunnah when we would do it we would be following some of the Imams because what most things what those Imam said are according to Quran and Sunnah but many of them are not so if you are following even Shafi Madhab and some of it saying is not according to authentic Hadees than you have to follow Hadees and majority so called Salafis they basically follow Hanbali and Shafi Madhab because Imam Ahmed bin Hanbal has also collection of Hadees famous Masnad e Ahmed Bin Hanbal yes he allowed four Imams but you can't follow Imam on every issue every statement of Imam you have to see it in light of Quran and Hadees if according to that follow it if not reject it that is what is called Salafism following the original Quran and Sunnat and than seeing what Sahabas did

ignoramous, he didn't follow any of the imaams.... why the hell do you think his Hanbali father and brother who were both scholars of Islam and his own Hanbali teacher who at the time was the Mufti of Mecca shar'eef were against Najdi???

 

[Zarvan]

ignoramous, he didn't follow any of the imaams.... why the hell do you think his Hanbali father and brother who were both scholars of Islam and his own Hanbali teacher who at the time was the Mufti of Mecca shar'eef were against Najdi???

Yes he didn't follow Hanbali in every order if simply followed Quran and Hadees Mr and asked Muslims to do it and every Imam says same no Imam says keep following me even if some of my sayings go against Quran and Hadees and if you do that you are trying to raise their status higher than HAZRAT MUHAMMAD SAW

 

[Farooq]

Yes he didn't follow Hanbali in every order if simply followed Quran and Hadees Mr and asked Muslims to do it and every Imam says same no Imam says keep following me even if some of my sayings go against Quran and Hadees and if you do that you are trying to raise their status higher than HAZRAT MUHAMMAD SAW

in your previous post you said he wasn't a Sunni, therefore he wasn't a Hanbali either

Now you're saying he didn't follow all of the Hanbali madhab and followed some it.. LOL! .... so you've admitted that your shaytaan committed bidah by deviating from the 4 madhabs and created his own madhab...

Now prove to me where is it written in the Qur'an and Hadees that it is permissible to deviate from the 4 madhabs and create your own madhab?

How are you any different from the shias who also don't follow the 4 schools of thought?

 

[Zarvan]

Yes he didn't follow Hanbali in every order if simply followed Quran and Hadees Mr and asked Muslims to do it and every Imam says same

Yes because he didn't followed blindly a single Imam on every issue he just read Quran and Hadees and followed them mostly all the Imams pretty much have 90 % things in common the famous 4 Imams only 10 % difference and for that 10 % we would have to just read on Quran and Hadees and the opinion of the Imam which is most close to Quran and Sunnah we would follow that we are different from Shias because neither shias believe in Sahabas and they also reject Hadees you are more close to Shias Mr because you like them follow Imams blindly as Muslims we have to follow Quran and Hadees and that is what all Imams said you even don't know what Imams said no he didn't created any madhab he just told you to follow Quran and Sunnah you created bidah of following single Imam because for your information Sahabas just followed Quran and Sunnah not any Imam their was only Imam HAZRAT MUHAMMAD SAW himself

 

[Informant]

Mr they call it part of Islam mr they call it and try to justify it Sir and yes you don't care about Abdul Wahab because you only care about is not following Quran and Sunnah before showing your level of ignorance first read his books than come and talk and prove one single thing against Quran and Sunnah if you have gutts Mr you are acting like student of Abu Juhal and abusing me

Im not abusing you, i feel sorry for you. You my dear friend are a sheep led by people who are nothing but savages. Wahab can go suck a donkey dick for all i care, me on the other hand I will die for my country. Only answerable to god so dont care about wahab bullshit. I dont need your acepatance or approval. You for some reason cannot comprehend this. Not my fault nor do i care.

 

[Zarvan]

Im not abusing you, i feel sorry for you. You my dear friend are a sheep led by people who are nothing but savages. Wahab can go suck a donkey dick for all i care, me on the other hand I will die for my country. Only answerable to god so dont care about wahab bullshit. I dont need your acepatance or approval. You for some reason cannot comprehend this. Not my fault nor do i care.

Mr i was born into sufi family and I was pretty much a sufi when I started doing research and followed Quran and Sunnah and you instead of telling me show balls read the books written by Muhammad ibn Abdul Wahab and I challenge you to point out single thing against Quran and Sunnah and you can't because in those books he has only quoted Quran and Sunnah and Muslims die for Islam and defense of Muslims and their land not a country yes you don't need any approval because you just want to abuse a person without even knowing what he actually said this shows the level of ignorance you are on

 

[Farooq]

Yes because he didn't followed blindly a single Imam on every issue he just read Quran and Hadees and followed them mostly all the Imams pretty much have 90 % things in common the famous 4 Imams only 10 % difference and for that 10 % we would have to just read on Quran and Hadees and the opinion of the Imam which is most close to Quran and Sunnah we would follow that we are different from Shias because neither shias believe in Sahabas and they also reject Hadees you are more close to Shias Mr because you like them follow Imams blindly as Muslims we have to follow Quran and Hadees and that is what all Imams said you even don't know what Imams said no he didn't created any madhab he just told you to follow Quran and Sunnah you created bidah of following single Imam because for your information Sahabas just followed Quran and Sunnah not any Imam their was only Imam HAZRAT MUHAMMAD SAW himself

jamaati parrot,

Do you realize how stupid your sound?! In this discussion I've learned your actually a greater jackass than I thought.

You have been brainwashed to the point of no return by the najdi shaytaaans you hang out with...

You've made so many contradictory statements that I've actually lost track of it.

Basically in your entire argument you've said the Najdi shaytaan was a greater scholar and had a better understanding of the Qur'an, Sunnah and fiqh than his Islamic scholar Hanbali father, his Islamic scholar brother, his teacher who was the Mufti of Mecca and all of the Ulema at the time combined. LOL!

Your jihaalth is beyond words and thought process is border line retarded

Where does it say in the Qur'an and Sunnah that you can deviate from the four imaams and pick and choose of what you want to follow ?

 

[Zarvan]

jamaati parrot,

Do you realize how stupid your sound?! In this discussion I've learned your actually a greater jackass than I thought.

You have been brainwashed to the point of no return by the najdi shaytaaans you hang out with...

You've made so many contradictory statements that I've actually lost track of it.

Basically in your entire argument you've said the Najdi shaytaan was a greater scholar and had a better understanding of the Qur'an, Sunnah and fiqh than his Islamic scholar Hanbali father, his Islamic scholar brother, his teacher who was the Mufti of Mecca and all of the Ulema at the time combined. LOL!

Your jihaalth is beyond words and thought process is border line retarded

Where does it say in the Qur'an and Sunnah that you can deviate from the four imaams and pick and choose of what you want to follow ?

Yes he was right and you stop coming up with argument which Abu Juhal used to say that we would keep following our parents despite knowing that MUHAMMAD SAW was right you are coming up with some idiotic argument how stupid you sound I am asking you to follow Quran and Sunnah but you are saying you will follow one single Imam on every issue so you are saying is for you that Imam is far more important than the ALLAH and his RASOOL SAW

 

[Farooq]

Yes he was right and you stop coming up with argument which Abu Juhal used to say that we would keep following our parents despite knowing that MUHAMMAD SAW was right you are coming up with some idiotic argument how stupid you sound I am asking you to follow Quran and Sunnah but you are saying you will follow one single Imam on every issue so you are saying is for you that Imam is far more important than the ALLAH and his RASOOL SAW

Where does it say in the Qur'an and Sunnah that you can deviate from the four imaams and pick and choose of what you want to follow ?

 

[Zarvan]

Where does it say in the Qur'an and Sunnah that you can deviate from the four imaams and pick and choose of what you want to follow ?

And where it says follow those Imams and don't follow Quran and Sunnah instead Quran every time says follow ALLAH and his RASOOL SAW following ALLAH is Quran and following RASOOL SAW is following Hadees and Hazrat Muhammad SAW who ever doesn't follow my Sunnah has nothing to do with me and if you have nothing to do with RASOOL SAW than you have everything to do with the devil

 

[M. Sarmad]

Where does it say in the Qur'an and Sunnah that you can deviate from the four imaams and pick and choose of what you want to follow ?

Where does it say in Quran and Sunnah that following one of the four Imams is mandatory?

 

[Informant]

Mr i was born into sufi family and I was pretty much a sufi when I started doing research and followed Quran and Sunnah and you instead of telling me show balls read the books written by Muhammad ibn Abdul Wahab and I challenge you to point out single thing against Quran and Sunnah and you can't because in those books he has only quoted Quran and Sunnah and Muslims die for Islam and defense of Muslims and their land not a country yes you don't need any approval because you just want to abuse a person without even knowing what he actually said this shows the level of ignorance you are on

Lol go to afghanistan then, syria then why sit on the computer and be a phannay khan. I work for my country and will die for it, not any other or some ummah. Thats the job for nuts like you.

If i actually wanted to abuse you, i'd be in your home. And thats my job to find people like you or you support. Then what happens makes the toughest of guys shiver.

 

[Zarvan]

Lol go to afghanistan then, syria then why sit on the computer and be a phannay khan. I work for my country and will die for it, not any other or some ummah. Thats the job for nuts like you.

If i actually wanted to abuse you, i'd be in your home. And thats my job to find people like you or you support. Then what happens makes the toughest of guys shiver.

but Muslims who follow ALLAH and his RASOOL SAW fight for Muslims and Islam and Ummat not any country because they follow ALLAH and his RASOOL SAW and Sahabas and that is what they taught Muslims so you follow the GOD of nationalism you can die for that your choice Sir

 

[Farooq]

Where does it say in Quran and Sunnah that following one of the four Imam is mandatory?

Brother,

I can give you many references with research, but entire fiqh is based on what the 4 Imaams have said based on their research from the light of the Qur'an and Sunnah. For example, rules for praying, paying zakat, divorce, property rights, etc

The difference between Ahlesunnah Wul Jummah (Sunnis) and rest of the like wahabiism, salfiism, shia, etc are that Sunnis (who are also the majority within the Ummah) follow Qur'an Hadees, Sahaba رضي الله عنه and one of the four Imaams.

Lol go to afghanistan then, syria then why sit on the computer and be a phannay khan. I work for my country and will die for it, not any other or some ummah. Thats the job for nuts like you.

If i actually wanted to abuse you, i'd be in your home. And thats my job to find people like you or you support. Then what happens makes the toughest of guys shiver.

that jamaati parrot needs to arrested by the Pak authorities & interrogated because I am pretty sure he justifies the killing of Pakistani soldiers by his TTP friends

 

[Zarvan]

Brother,

I can give you many references with research, but entire fiqh is based on what the 4 Imaams have said based on their research from the light of the Qur'an and Sunnah. For example, rules for praying, paying zakat, divorce, property rights, etc

The difference between Ahlesunnah Wul Jummah (Sunnis) and rest of the like wahabiism, salfiism, shia, etc are that Sunnis (who are also the majority within the Ummah) follow Qur'an Hadees, Sahaba رضي الله عنه and one of the four Imaams.

Mr and those Imam said when you have Hadees and my saying goes against Hadees follow Hadees not my saying so Sir we basically have to follow Quran and Sunnah that is what Quran orders Muslims to do several times follow Quran and Sunnah follow ALLAH and his RASOOL SAW