Deep penetrator bomb

[Hack-Hook]

The Air domain will be the key if this war is fought,

apart from this supper cruses will be a thing to see.

The syrian air defence system is said to be much more complicated then the Iranian, and they are chalking out plans to penetrate that also.

Not complicaed , but more dense .
But is it true , they claim that because they say that iran is a bigger country and we have more ground to cover , but answer me those it so , we are makinb those system and syria is buying them , we have no limit building those system , we have more diverse radars ,we have powerfull radar like matlao-al-fajr . Then how the syrian air defence is more complicated

 

[United]

A thermobaric bomb has nothing do do with a MOP. The former is a FAE (Fuel Air Explosive) that is not designed to penetrate but ignite a cloud of fuel/explosive material overground. The explosive cloud causes massive blast and overpressure including a fire storm that spreads almost instantaneously over a large area, scorching troops out in the open.

The blast and overpressure demolishes buildings and other structures within the danger zone. The resultant fire storm would start multiple fires way beyond the danger zones. Worse still, this bomb sucks out all the oxygen in the vicinity creating a vacuum. This is a deadly weapon especially for exposed troops.

Cheers!

MOAB is definitely different we are net saying every weapon is MOAB what we are discussing is how all to counter different weapons that can be used against Iran. not only MOAB.

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Not the kind of deep penetration I was looking.

I know! Such a misleading title - I thought I'll give an infraction or two.

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But yeah, nice tech thread!

Keep posting-

WTF is wrong with u guys 2 much internet bad boys go back to bed.

you guys are a little funny , I don't knew why every 3 month i must bother to explain to you why this weapon is useless against Fordoo .


Look at your picture its says clearly this weapon can penetrate up to 60m in 5000psi concrete but when you use 10000psi concrete it only penetrate up to 8m. Well let me tell you a small secret , Iran producethe must strong concrete in the world , while the strongest concrete tjat france can produce is only 20000psi our strongest concrete can stand up to 60000psi . Now you decid how much you can penetrate our concrete witn this weapon

My brother if iran produces such kind of a concrete its good but i doubt the whole of iran is under concrete
if iran can make better concrete i am definitely sure they can make better bombs(DP)

what is the use if whole iran is burning and u have a few ppl underground safe now this is not our aim right?

other counter measures should also be considered

 

[Hack-Hook]

they want that bomb for fordoo not peoples and that facility is well protected and if you doubt our concrete , you an search google for iran uhpc or iran super concrete

 

[United]

they want that bomb for fordoo not peoples and that facility is well protected and if you doubt our concrete , you an search google for iran uhpc or iran super concrete

Eskandari(Alexander) U are not concentrating that is not the only bomb they will use we also discussed thermo bombs pls check the use of that go back a few post these weapons can wipe out the whole city. its not a DP weapon ur super concrete is useless for this.

we here are discussing all possibilities (weapons)

keep it open and fair.

 

[Hack-Hook]

well they can use a thermobaric bomb in fact they can use ten of those bombs but they cant scratch deep bunkers with those bombs
And using those bombs against cities is wonderfull way to tellthe world that I'm a war criminal and my hubby is comitting crime against humanity ,and I assure you by no means you can sugar coat it.
More than that whats the benefit of that except destroying several block of civillian buildings ?

After all do you belive a thermobaric bomb is able to perform ideally in a city ?those bombs work best on open fields not cities with high buildings

 

[Sinnerman108]

Deep Penetrator ...

I thought the thread was about me

 

[KRAIT]

Deep Penetrator ...

I thought the thread was about me

You are deep perpetrator.....

J/K
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US made such weapons in record time to use it in Afghanistan.

 

[Harry_Thomason]

US doesnt have bombs to penetrate the best protected Iranian facilities, why do you think US and co is making ultimatums that Iran would close Fordo themselves?

As already mentioned, Iran is making 60.000 psi smart ultra-high performance concrete (the best in the World), against which US deep penetrators are next to useless.

The idea that multiple hits in the same spot would penetrate is hardly feasible either, since UHPC gets fractured, but doesnt shatter or throw out the concrete from the spot, hence multiple hits arent as efficient as it may seem against ordinary concrete or rock. Plus US doesnt even have many of MOPs, nor can chain drop them.

GBU-57/B Massive Ordnance Penetrator (MOP)

On 28 January 2012, the Wall Street Journal reported that the Department of Defense had concluded that the GBU-57/B Massive Ordnance Penetrator was not capable of destroying certain facilities in Iran and had submitted a request for funds to upgrade the weapon. The request reportedly sought to improve the weapon's penetrating characteristics.

In more details: Bunker-busting: Smart concrete | The Economist

Bottom line: unless US comes up with much more effective MOPs, the strategies it may employ today would be sabotaging the facilities (bombing air ducts, entrances, electric lines). However Iran knows what possible strategies US may use, and preparing for them as well. So in my opinion, the only way to ensure US achieves its goal would be sending ground troops, which would make it a very bloody war, for both sides.

 

[KRAIT]

Many countries had paid price for under-estimating US. Lets see what happens if the day come when US will be tested. I put 50\50 chance.

 

[gambit]

Many countries had paid price for under-estimating US. Lets see what happens if the day come when US will be tested. I put 50\50 chance.

You should understand that when people like these guys talk the way they do, it is not because they speak from personal experience in the military. They speak this way to ease the tension, the apprehension, the doubts, and the fear they have inside.

 

[Night_Raven]

What's with the thread title ?

 

[United]

well they can use a thermobaric bomb in fact they can use ten of those bombs but they cant scratch deep bunkers with those bombs

More than that whats the benefit of that except destroying several block of civillian buildings ?

After all do you belive a thermobaric bomb is able to perform ideally in a city ?those bombs work best on open fields not cities with high buildings

US doesnt have bombs to penetrate the best protected Iranian facilities, why do you think US and co is making ultimatums that Iran would close Fordo themselves?

As already mentioned, Iran is making 60.000 psi smart ultra-high performance concrete (the best in the World), against which US deep penetrators are next to useless.

I would request every one to educate urself b4 posting i am repeating again MOAB and DP weapons are 2 diff kind

what i am shocked to see Iranian's are only worried and protecting there Nuclear installation's and not there civilians,
u think if war breaks US will not attack civilian targets?

learn 4m Iraq MOAB and thermo bombs are capable to wipe out entire city what will u do then?

there are weapons that can penetrate cements but not the ones which cause a bang but will kill every living thing down there.

DP are just the tip of the iceberg

plz fwd what else weapons can be used and how can we counter them.

"I just don't believe there are so many dirty minds in PDF"

 

[KingMamba]

The title of the thread needs to be modified.

 

[BLACKEAGLE]

The Air domain will be the key if this war is fought,

apart from this supper cruses will be a thing to see.

The syrian air defence system is said to be much more complicated then the Iranian, and they are chalking out plans to penetrate that also.

Syrian air defense is much complicated in terms of quality and quantity. They have about 4000 anti-air guns and about 1000 anti-air missile launchers as well as 6000 man-pads, which makes it one of the most intense anti-air defense in the world. However, looking at the internal conflict and the mass defection in addition to the dire lack of loyalty among Syrian army, this defense system wouldn't be as strong as it looks.

 

[BLACKEAGLE]

Not complicaed , but more dense .
But is it true , they claim that because they say that iran is a bigger country and we have more ground to cover , but answer me those it so , we are makinb those system and syria is buying them , we have no limit building those system , we have more diverse radars ,we have powerfull radar like matlao-al-fajr . Then how the syrian air defence is more complicated

Most of Iranian air defense systems are obsolete including Hawk system which is 35 years ago regardless of how Iranians upgraded it. Syria already have 4000 anti-air guns and I don't think they would get more similar systems. Syria upgraded her radar systems by Russia.