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Death in Afghanistan or bitter life in Pakistan: refugees' choice

How about a fourth way?

Split the herd for easier handling.

The guy saying in the OP that life is grim in
a Pakistani refugee camp is probably right.
But the guy later saying that having tried to
return he came back to Pakistan for good is
certainly right for now.
If it is, ask for international community support.

Separate those refugees from the rest and
offer them a route to Pakistani citizenship.
Those will contribute.

Separate the refugees that state affinities
for Indian, count them and call out New Delhi
publicly. We have so many thousands of those
Afghans you so love and they say they love
you too and where shall we deliver them. Namaste!

Separate the refugees that want to go back
and call out Kabul about its fleeing masses &
again ask for international community support.

But FIRST, separate those that you judge doubtful
and build them nice camps beyond the Durand line
halfway down the slope inside Afghanistan ... and
call out Kabul saying : If we feed and protect them,
we keep the land they're on, now make a choice!

Gotta use some imagination peeps 'cuz things like
I feel sorry for them.
Deport them.
realistic as they are are not exactly soulful?

GL, Tay.
 
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And in my thread he called me a hitler and extremist :lol:
I am glad he exposed himself that quick by proposing hitler style concentration camps.See we are fighting against hypocrites and should feel proud.
@Maarkhoor @Taygibay @M. Sarmad
P.S We all don,t want afghans in our country but we can deport them or don,t allow them in our country.After all it,s not a decent thing a put a fellow human being in a concentration camp.
i didnt said gas chambers
 
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No more afghans.. now is the time to send them back or send them to india their besti friend.. no more burden for pakistan.. plz god dont extend their extension..
 
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I have a solution for this ,,,,,,,,,,,,,, A permanent one............
Just look at these pics(Maps) Pakistan should annex (have to take the) places in Red and settle down all refuges there as Pakistani Citizens .................. We can do that ,,,,,,,,, Afghnistan also country of those Refuges and they don't want to go back ......... So why not we have the land that will come in there shear............
We only need one mad step ............. We can not have peace in our country even after building that fence if we have Refuges Problem............. And this move will also give us border with Turkmenistan and Tajikistan...........


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I have a solution for this ,,,,,,,,,,,,,, A permanent one............
Just look at these pics(Maps) Pakistan should annex (have to take the) places in Red and settle down all refuges there as Pakistani Citizens .................. We can do that ,,,,,,,,, Afghnistan also country of those Refuges and they don't want to go back ......... So why not we have the land that will come in there shear............
We only need one mad step ............. We can not have peace in our country even after building that fence if we have Refuges Problem............. And this move will also give us border with Turkmenistan and Tajikistan...........


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And what about taliban?? Will they give those areas to uss huh??
 
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And what about taliban?? Will they give those areas to uss huh??
Push them into there country Afgnistan........ We are not taking whole of Afganistan......... and we can use new citizens of Pakistan(refuges) to do the job......... while PAF provides full air cover.
And push fence few 100s kilometres away from current location. We only want land that will come in refuges shear... fully Islamic and all by Law(any law) , for example ,just look at Russia..........
 
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Really? But according to Ghani there is pakhtuns genocide going in Pakistan but afghanis somehow still feel saver in Pakistan lmao:rofl:

koi sharam hoti hai koi haya hoti hai koi ethic hoti hai

Separate those refugees from the rest and
offer them a route to Pakistani citizenship.
Those will contribute.

There are already to many Pakistanis. Last thing we need is more people to compete with low paying labour jobs. Pehle kuch apne gharib logon ka bhi heyal karo.
 
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Really? But according to Ghani there is pakhtuns genocide going in Pakistan but afghanis somehow still feel saver in Pakistan lmao:rofl:

koi sharam hoti hai koi haya hoti hai koi ethic hoti hai



There are already to many Pakistanis. Last thing we need is more people to compete with low paying labour jobs. Pehle kuch apne gharib logon ka bhi heyal karo.

LOL That is well said. According to Ghani Pashtun are being slaughtered in Pakistan, but his own countrymen don't want to leave and remain in Pakistan. What kind of a spineless beggar leader would plead a supposedly enemy nation to extend the stay of his nationals in a country he accuses of killing Pashtun? You guessed it right. Ghani is such a beggar.

He claims India is his friend, yet his own countrymen prefer to flock to Pakistan. Why not go to India which is also a neighboring country? Too afraid of being raped or marginalized like other minorities in India?

I have a feeling that this was the last extension for Afghan refugees. Pakistan was reluctant to extend, but gave them a final chance to get their act together. America is now on a daily basis being reminded that repatriation is coming. They better be ready because there won't be any second chances after this.
 
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Death in Afghanistan or bitter life in Pakistan: refugees' choice
1:26 PM, February 10, 2018
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PESHAWAR, Pakistan: Death awaits you in Afghanistan , says refugee Mohammad Wali, insisting he prefers to endure a grim existence in a Pakistani camp than return home and be killed.

Islamabad has increasingly put Afghan refugees in the crosshairs in recent weeks, claiming that militants hide in Pakistani camps and calling for all refugees to be repatriated as part of a campaign to eliminate extremism.

But in Afghanistan , nearly four decades after the Soviet invasion sent the first refugees flowing over the border, the resurgent Taliban fight on, with civilians repeatedly caught in the carnage.

Days after a spate of deadly attacks killed more than 130 people, Wali, wearing a shabby coat, said a recent call to his family in the Afghan capital was filled with only dire news.

"They told me of terrible attacks and of the bombers blowing them up and nothing else," the fruit seller said.


Pakistan hosts roughly 1.4 million registered Afghan refugees , the UN says. A further 700,000 undocumented are also believed to be living in the country.

Pakistanis have long viewed them suspiciously, with police accused of harassment and extortion along with arbitrary arrests.

"Even our caps were taken here (by police)," said Wali.

In recent weeks anti-refugee rhetoric by officials has heated up again, notably as they come under increased US pressure over militant safe havens.

"Pakistan has also been stressing the need of early repatriation of Afghan refugees as their presence in Pakistan helps Afghan terrorists to melt and morph among them," the foreign ministry said, following a suspected US drone strike in the tribal belt last month.

The official pressure coincides with a souring of public opinion toward refugees , with some Pakistanis saying Afghans have overstayed their welcome.

"Enough is enough, we served them for 40 years, shared our houses and treated them as guests," said Peshawar resident Mehmood Khan.


The UN's refugee agency has warned against any forcible or coerced repatriations, insisting they be voluntary.

In late January, Pakistan extended a deadline by 60 days for refugees holding proof of registration cards to leave its territory.

But as security in Afghanistandeteriorates further, refugees at an Islamabad camp said volunteers would be in short supply.

- 'Nothing left' -

Women carried buckets of water on their heads at the camp on the outskirts of Islamabad as young children played cricket in the dust near mud brick homes that lack electricity and clean water.

But none who spoke to AFP wanted to leave, all citing security and work as day labourers.

"There is nothing left in my homeland... only war and fighting," said Hajji Shahzada, 60, who came to Pakistan during the Soviet invasion four decades ago.


A recent report by the Norwegian Refugee Council found that seven out of 10 Afghans who had returned after living as refugees abroad have been displaced twice, chased from place to place by the insurgency.

The findings should give nations hosting Afghan refugees pause, said NRC secretary general Jan Egeland.

"Now is not the time to deport Afghans... It can destabilise the whole region and lead to immeasurable suffering," he said in the report.

Often the refugees end up in major urban centres such as Kabul, competing for scant resources.

Kabul, straining to manage its expanding population and feeble economy, has failed to help them, says Sher Agha, a representative for the refugees in Islamabad.

"Providing jobs and employment is another issue, but at the very least they need shelter," he told AFP.

- 'Better to live' -

The conditions are so bleak that "many" returnees are sneaking back across the porous border and quietly taking up their lives in Pakistan, multiple refugees told AFP.

Abdul Malik was born an Afghan refugee in northwest Pakistan, living there for more than 40 years. But in 2016 he repatriated with his Pakistani wife and children.

They settled in a village near Jalalabad, in eastern Nangarhar province, where the Taliban and the Islamic State group have been waging a turf war.

"It was the most unpleasant experience of my life," Malik, wrapped in a traditional Pashtun shawl, told AFP during an interview in Peshawar.

The water was contaminated, the air was polluted, there were no doctors, no clinics, no employment, nothing but "bad roads and difficult conditions", he said -- along with the constant fear of a brutal death at the hands of militants.

He lasted three months before sneaking back into Pakistan -- as many other Afghan families who could afford the journey have done.

Wali, who spoke to AFP at the Islamabad camp, said he would rather endure uncertainty in a country that does not want him than return home.

"Better to live here even if we face hunger and thirst," he explains.

"At least we will not die."
https://nation.com.pk/10-Feb-2018/death-in-afghanistan-or-bitter-life-in-pakistan-refugees-choice
@django @The Sandman @Moonlight @PakSword :D
But Afghanis in EU don't get the harsh realities of their country :D
@Sarah Ahmadzai




Not our problem. Go home and get out of Pakistan. Go anywhere you want but we don't want these ungrateful savages in our country anymore. Death to the enemies of Pakistan.

LOL That is well said. According to Ghani Pashtun are being slaughtered in Pakistan, but his own countrymen don't want to leave and remain in Pakistan. What kind of a spineless beggar leader would plead a supposedly enemy nation to extend the stay of his nationals in that specific country? You guessed it right. Ghani is such a beggar.

He claims India is his friend, yet his own countrymen prefer to flock to Pakistan. Why not go to India which is also a neighboring country? Too afraid of being raped or marginalized like other minorities in India?




afghans are ungrateful savages with no shame or honour. They hate us, our nation and everything to do with Pakistan but are literally dying to stay in Pakistan. Go figure.
 
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Not our problem. Go home and get out of Pakistan. Go anywhere you want but we don't want these ungrateful savages in our country anymore. Death to the enemies of Pakistan.






afghans are ungrateful savages with no shame or honour. They hate us, our nation and everything to do with Pakistan but are literally dying to stay in Pakistan. Go figure.

It boggles the mind. What kind of a strange enmity is this? You accuse a nation for your downfall, but beg them to house and feed your nationals LOL Just incredible.
 
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It boggles the mind. What kind of a strange enmity is this? You accuse a nation for your downfall, but beg them to house and feed your nationals LOL Just incredible.



It's the sign of an inferior peoples with no dignity, self-respect, honour or shame. That describes afghans to a tee.
 
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It's the sign of an inferior peoples with no dignity, self-respect, honour or shame. That describes afghans to a tee.

Well, this will be our final extension. Time has come for these Afghans to leave. We are going to force them.
 
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