Dear Pakistan Army and ISI; Your Enemies No Longer Hold Rifles Or Wear Uniforms

[Desert Fox]

Its been 75 years nearly. Leave it . Partition is a done deal even after the creation of Bangladesh. Its time you come to terms with partition. The whys and reasons don't matter.
This mental association with India has to stop. Your future is tied to your Arab cousins.
And it should start with your PM and trickle down.
Even in non security matters he references India constantly.

Nobody's talking to you

 

[El Sidd]

Dear concerned Pakistani, the people you are asking are actually themselves proponents of a liberal and open society. They want westernization, bring in foreigners and make them feel at home. They give example of Turkey and how open their country and society is. Seems their old slogan of Islam have been changed and even they are disposing of the groups.

Enlightened moderation, something which the regime head talked about at the UN.

 

[xyxmt]

Its been 75 years nearly. Leave it . Partition is a done deal even after the creation of Bangladesh. Its time you come to terms with partition. The whys and reasons don't matter.
This mental association with India has to stop. Your future is tied to your Arab cousins.
And it should start with your PM and trickle down.
Even in non security matters he references India constantly.

This would have been true if you were Pakistani saying to Indians. but I think you miraculously found a toilet in India and loved it so much you have locked yourself inside for last 10 years, so you have no clue which country is obsessed with which since you dont watch Indian TVs due to space limitations.

 

[Baz2020]

Dear Pakistan Army and ISI,

To all the patriots and lovers of this Pak Sar Zameen who have dawned the uniform of our beloved armed forces and who therefore have taken it upon themselves to defend and protect this Islamic nation; lest you have not noticed, your enemies; our nations enemies, have taken up a far more effective and fruitful long-term strategy to undermine the very existence of Pakistan and therefore the purpose of your existence as our nation's defending institutions.

The last 4-5 years has seen the aggressive promotion of foreign ideological warfare within Pakistan to undermine its very social fabric and the traditional institutions and values of which you as its defenders are also aware of the importance of. Without the existence of these institutions like the family system and our conservative Islamic values, as imperfect as the practice of these values may be (mostly because of our own inconsistency and identity crisis rather than the concept of these institutions and values itself), the love and support that you as an institution of the Armed Forces and intelligence service enjoy would not exist. And slowly this very support is being eroded. I have not seen so many people before who question why we should even take up the Kashmiri cause, of what benefit it would bring us. I have not seen so many people before who openly mock the conservative Islamic values which are embodied by your motto 'Imaan, Taqwa, Jihad fi-Sabil-Allah'.

The new generations are being educated and raised by tiktok and instagram where they care more about not offending their Hindu/Sikh/Indian followers rather than speaking up for the truth. Are these the people who will be entrusted to fill your ranks one day once the patriotic generations retire?

We are witnessing a aggressive trend by Western backed organizations posing as 'charity' groups which are injecting the poison of Homosexual/LGBTQ "rights" and sexual promiscuity under the guise of "Women's Empowerment" as well as Athiesm/Agnosticism. The first two are a direct attack on the family system, and the latter on our Islamic values; The very values which once again you as an institution can credit the moral justification of your existence upon.

First, the UN in a bold move urged the Pakistani government to decriminalize zina/adultery in 2018:

UN wants consensual sex decriminalised in Pakistan | The Express Tribune

Pakistan ‘notes’ suggestion; CII slams move; clerics say it is ‘treasonous’

tribune.com.pk

Then, as of last December 23, 2020 (less than two weeks ago), the congress of the United States of America has approved $25 Million dollars in "aid" to promote "Democracy & Gender Programmes" within Pakistan:

US Congress clears $25 million for democracy, gender programmes in Pakistan

The US Congress on Tuesday approved USD 25 million civilian aid package for Pakistan to strengthen democracy and promote women's rights in the South Asian country

www.business-standard.com

We all know what "Gender Programmes" means: the complete and utter dissolution of whatever remains of the traditional social structures within Pakistan and the further exacerbation of social breakdown. I know that the adherents of the religion of Liberalism inside Pakistan will celebrate this news as they have always celebrated anything detrimental to Pakistan and the values of the vast majority of its armed forces and people. But for those of us who are aware of the implications of this so called "aid", we know what "democracy" and "gender programmes" means; further spread of sexually transmitted diseases due to promotion of sexually promiscuous behavior, more divorces, broken families, children born out of wedlock, children suffering from mental disorders due to broken families, and the list can go on. All of these problems and more can be observed in the American society as well as all across the Western and so called "developed" countries.

Of course, the usual response from our Liberal radicals will be to strawman this position by bringing up the overly-used and expected response that "already some of those problems exist in Pakistan", but such a childish and silly response is like saying "already we have cancer, why don't you want us to also get HIV?"

Yes, some of these problems already exist in Pakistan precisely because of the fact that our Liberal Mass Media and Liberal Politicians and Liberal privileged class have promoted the very values that created these problems, in addition to other problematic pre-existing pre-Islamic practices like oppressing and exploiting the weak by the rich and influential, forcing women to pay dowry, child labor, etc. Ironically, many of which you will find our Liberal and Western influenced class partaking in the perpetuation of this oppression (go in the home of any Pakistani Liberal aunty and you will see child servants, as one example).

Not withstanding the hypocrisy of our Liberals and their self acclaimed moral superiority, if these values which the West is aggressively promoting to us were as great as we are told to believe, then one only needs to look at the West itself in which these values are taken for granted to know how much social benefit can be derived from them: namely, highest rates of sexually transmitted diseases within the general population, highest rates of children born out of wedlock, highest rates of child abuse in single mother homes where the mother has sexual partners other than the child's biological father, highest rate of youth suicide, highest rate of children with mental disorders, highest rate of drug usage by children, highest rate of children contracting STD before the age of 18, highest rate of girls selling their bodies (**** industry) to pay off debt or make a living, highest rate of youth criminal behavior (gangs, organized crime), highest rate of mass shooters, highest rate of serial killers etc.. the list is too long.

As you can see, the West is no example for us to follow when it comes to remedying social ills. In fact many of these problems listed above cannot be found in our society either to that extant or some of these don't even exist here, yet.

The solution to our present social ills is within our conservative Islamic values.

As the institutions entrusted with the defense of Pakistan and its peoples and the conservative Islamic values which overwhelming majority of Pakistanis and armed services men and woman hold dear, it is your duty to ensure that Pakistan is safeguarded against not only physical threats to its existence but also ideological threats which pose far greater danger to its future existence and therefore to the future existence of you, its Army, ISI and its nuclear assets which have guaranteed its survival in the face of major regional and global threats.


Sincerely,

A concerned Pakistani

I hate to break this news to you. A radical metaphorical acid bath is required for Pakistan

Phauji generals and their foreign trainings, deputation, their children studying abroad. Corrupt generals basically who still looking to hold grand national dialogue with eaw agent fuzla. Ayaz sadiq should have been hanged by now but corrupt judges.

 

[Zarvan]

This is social engineering. Within 30 to 50 year religion in Pakistan will not be the main concern in younger 15 to 45 years old population in Pakistan if these efforts are left unchecked. Extremist regressive Mullahs are as much threat to this as liberal section. Both provide push and pull from real essence of Islam. Humanism will take over in public domain. Islam will be limited to personal practices.

On the contrary Islam is rising among youth. Yes there is elite which is getting more and more. But more and more educated youth are getting religious education. So they can give dawah. But yes our elites are also getting more and more bold.

 

[Salman876]

Most important, but most difficult topic. My brain halts on this topic.

 

[SQ8]

These things are only implemented in either an oppressive dictatorship like North Korea(if that what Pakistanis want) or a homogeneous society(ethnic, cultural, sectarian, social). Neither of which applies to Pakistan.

Instead of hoping some messiah comes and helps Pakistan or some “mard e mujahid” do - the question to ask is what stakeholders did the Pakistani population and intellectuals (regardless of which side they represent) leave their religious and social thought to(in terms of caliber) while they focused on their worldly needs.

I cite this example multiple times to make the same point - when a white bearded police inspector dripping of water after wudu can still ask for a bribe, the places for religious teachings are full of sodomy, a surgeon abandons his patient to die on the table because he will miss his prayer, and the elite hold milad e nabwi events in sleeveless dresses and sheer clothes; something has clearly gone wrong with the national character and its idea of Islam overall.

This isn’t the responsibility of the military, the politicians or anyone else we keep running to in our national character of “jugar” or shortcuts. Those that see these issues in the light need to all sit,debate with their disagreements the chart out common actions.
One of the scholars I follow had a very fine point - it doesn’t matter the disagreements , the least should be that the Deobandis, Barelvis, Ahle sunnat , even Shia should pray together. Even invite the Qadiyani in - just so they see the jamaat.
When you cannot do even this, even on this forum where we are prepared to hate and kill each other; then don’t expect your messiah to come from the sky.

Neither of us are truly prepared to abandon our families or have the slightest risk to them for our own reasons to actually partake in such social movements. So we shouldn’t expect any miracles or messiahs either. You want to see social movements? Look to where they do happen and who partakes in them throughout the world - be it simple election campaigns like the PTI or the struggle against brick kiln slavery in Pakistan.

Regardless of right or wrong, change requires actual action by doers - Allama Iqbal was looking for a Mohammad Ali Jinnah but he did not just hand him a pamphlet and then go back to Sialkot to drink tea and write poetry. He kept part of the movement in every aspect until his body allowed him.

I am not afraid to admit that I am neither capable of such thought nor commitment that compromises my worldly life today - I am a flawed human being who like the many on this forum and millions in Pakistan can only hope for some change but prefer to keep my keyster out of the fire.

 

[sady]

On the contrary Islam is rising among youth. Yes there is elite which is getting more and more. But more and more educated youth are getting religious education. So they can give dawah. But yes our elites are also getting more and more bold.

Islam still spreads in US for a reason however I feel opposition to Islam being dominant factor in public/government domain will increase from today's baseline. Opinion makers and pressure groups in media and elsewhere will make Islam in public space a taboo, if social engineering efforts aren't checked.

 

[sady]

You went from a positive message to Satan Worshipper in a jiffy. That went south real fast.

I read concepts of satanism and then read modern humanism. As well us history of how Christianity became irrelevant in most of West. You see a pattern of how from God focus changed to man. There is congruence. Now labelling it as conspiracy theory is standard response and confirmation bias as well. However we should appreciate the massive changes in our social acceptance of things in last few decades, versus most of human history.

 

[H!TchHiker]

Its more of double standard rather... Pakistan is and never was a true Islamic state ...it's just a nation of muslim majority people ...all the economic and judicial system is based on west and riba quite a contrary to what islam has clearly prohibit ....

 

[hussain0216]

Its been 75 years nearly. Leave it . Partition is a done deal even after the creation of Bangladesh. Its time you come to terms with partition. The whys and reasons don't matter.
This mental association with India has to stop. Your future is tied to your Arab cousins.
And it should start with your PM and trickle down.
Even in non security matters he references India constantly.

India is our enemy

 

[Jobless Jack]

This is social engineering. Within 30 to 50 year religion in Pakistan will not be the main concern in younger 15 to 45 years old population in Pakistan if these efforts are left unchecked. Extremist regressive Mullahs are as much threat to this as liberal section. Both provide push and pull from real essence of Islam. Humanism will take over in public domain. Islam will be limited to personal practices.

I offer a correction

The upper class and the middle class will no longer associate with islam in 30-50 years, the poor will always.

Glad i am young now and will be an old and hopefully dead man and therefore wont have to see a world filled with satanism

 

[PradoTLC]

This would have been true if you were Pakistani saying to Indians. but I think you miraculously found a toilet in India and loved it so much you have locked yourself inside for last 10 years, so you have no clue which country is obsessed with which since you dont watch Indian TVs due to space limitations.

This was epic...

 

[Jobless Jack]

Dear Pakistan Army and ISI,

To all the patriots and lovers of this Pak Sar Zameen who have dawned the uniform of our beloved armed forces and who therefore have taken it upon themselves to defend and protect this Islamic nation; lest you have not noticed, your enemies; our nations enemies, have taken up a far more effective and fruitful long-term strategy to undermine the very existence of Pakistan and therefore the purpose of your existence as our nation's defending institutions.

The last 4-5 years has seen the aggressive promotion of foreign ideological warfare within Pakistan to undermine its very social fabric and the traditional institutions and values of which you as its defenders are also aware of the importance of. Without the existence of these institutions like the family system and our conservative Islamic values, as imperfect as the practice of these values may be (mostly because of our own inconsistency and identity crisis rather than the concept of these institutions and values itself), the love and support that you as an institution of the Armed Forces and intelligence service enjoy would not exist. And slowly this very support is being eroded. I have not seen so many people before who question why we should even take up the Kashmiri cause, of what benefit it would bring us. I have not seen so many people before who openly mock the conservative Islamic values which are embodied by your motto 'Imaan, Taqwa, Jihad fi-Sabil-Allah'.

The new generations are being educated and raised by tiktok and instagram where they care more about not offending their Hindu/Sikh/Indian followers rather than speaking up for the truth. Are these the people who will be entrusted to fill your ranks one day once the patriotic generations retire?

We are witnessing a aggressive trend by Western backed organizations posing as 'charity' groups which are injecting the poison of Homosexual/LGBTQ "rights" and sexual promiscuity under the guise of "Women's Empowerment" as well as Athiesm/Agnosticism. The first two are a direct attack on the family system, and the latter on our Islamic values; The very values which once again you as an institution can credit the moral justification of your existence upon.

First, the UN in a bold move urged the Pakistani government to decriminalize zina/adultery in 2018:

UN wants consensual sex decriminalised in Pakistan | The Express Tribune

Pakistan ‘notes’ suggestion; CII slams move; clerics say it is ‘treasonous’

tribune.com.pk

Then, as of last December 23, 2020 (less than two weeks ago), the congress of the United States of America has approved $25 Million dollars in "aid" to promote "Democracy & Gender Programmes" within Pakistan:

US Congress clears $25 million for democracy, gender programmes in Pakistan

The US Congress on Tuesday approved USD 25 million civilian aid package for Pakistan to strengthen democracy and promote women's rights in the South Asian country

www.business-standard.com

We all know what "Gender Programmes" means: the complete and utter dissolution of whatever remains of the traditional social structures within Pakistan and the further exacerbation of social breakdown. I know that the adherents of the religion of Liberalism inside Pakistan will celebrate this news as they have always celebrated anything detrimental to Pakistan and the values of the vast majority of its armed forces and people. But for those of us who are aware of the implications of this so called "aid", we know what "democracy" and "gender programmes" means; further spread of sexually transmitted diseases due to promotion of sexually promiscuous behavior, more divorces, broken families, children born out of wedlock, children suffering from mental disorders due to broken families, and the list can go on. All of these problems and more can be observed in the American society as well as all across the Western and so called "developed" countries.

Of course, the usual response from our Liberal radicals will be to strawman this position by bringing up the overly-used and expected response that "already some of those problems exist in Pakistan", but such a childish and silly response is like saying "already we have cancer, why don't you want us to also get HIV?"

Yes, some of these problems already exist in Pakistan precisely because of the fact that our Liberal Mass Media and Liberal Politicians and Liberal privileged class have promoted the very values that created these problems, in addition to other problematic pre-existing pre-Islamic practices like oppressing and exploiting the weak by the rich and influential, forcing women to pay dowry, child labor, etc. Ironically, many of which you will find our Liberal and Western influenced class partaking in the perpetuation of this oppression (go in the home of any Pakistani Liberal aunty and you will see child servants, as one example).

Not withstanding the hypocrisy of our Liberals and their self acclaimed moral superiority, if these values which the West is aggressively promoting to us were as great as we are told to believe, then one only needs to look at the West itself in which these values are taken for granted to know how much social benefit can be derived from them: namely, highest rates of sexually transmitted diseases within the general population, highest rates of children born out of wedlock, highest rates of child abuse in single mother homes where the mother has sexual partners other than the child's biological father, highest rate of youth suicide, highest rate of children with mental disorders, highest rate of drug usage by children, highest rate of children contracting STD before the age of 18, highest rate of girls selling their bodies (**** industry) to pay off debt or make a living, highest rate of youth criminal behavior (gangs, organized crime), highest rate of mass shooters, highest rate of serial killers etc.. the list is too long.

As you can see, the West is no example for us to follow when it comes to remedying social ills. In fact many of these problems listed above cannot be found in our society either to that extant or some of these don't even exist here, yet.

The solution to our present social ills is within our conservative Islamic values.

As the institutions entrusted with the defense of Pakistan and its peoples and the conservative Islamic values which overwhelming majority of Pakistanis and armed services men and woman hold dear, it is your duty to ensure that Pakistan is safeguarded against not only physical threats to its existence but also ideological threats which pose far greater danger to its future existence and therefore to the future existence of you, its Army, ISI and its nuclear assets which have guaranteed its survival in the face of major regional and global threats.


Sincerely,

A concerned Pakistani

Not at all worried.

They plan , Allah plans as well. And Allah is the best planner.