Dear chinese and the other friends.

[the_islander]

First, I'll very appreciate if you stop filling the others by false informations.

Second, Vietnam is not any part of china, your government has never dared to say that internationally, even in the official debates between Vietnam and china.
Vietnam was a part (as you think) after we were invaded by the chinese, and we have never claimed ourself a part of chinese. we gained our freedom from chinese invasion, just like from France, U.S, Japan.
chinese illegally claims Vietnam or any Vietnam's territory a part of china, we object that.
If you think Vietnam is a part of china, then what do you think if I say, china is a part of Mongolia, because you were slaved by Genkis Khan in the past. (and I don't understand why your dramas still "feel" proud about that, LOL). If you don't agree, then stop giving false information of what so called "Vietnam is a part of china".

You're poisoning the world with dirty, cheap, harmful products, now you want to contaminate the world with false information ?

Vietnamese doesn't have thin eyes and big mouth like chinese.

 

[BJP*]

i guess peace is better than fighting, both must come to the table and negotiate, both have seen enough wars to settle down the dust for some time and relax

says a pakistani who wants war between pakistan + china Vs India

 

[bachdang]

To Thread starter:

My friends, i hope you do not represent for typical chinese, or everyone can see your chinese greedy aggressive nature.

Have you chinese guy ever ask yourself why your big country have conflict abt border with almost your neighbor.

We know what position we are, it's stupid to make trouble with big neighbor but it does not mean we are afraid.

 

[luckyyy]

So, be in your suitable position, especially in nowadays. Be clear, Vietnam is even weaker than any one single province of China. By what kind of power can you compete with us? You call some pieces of your broken wood which are floating on the sea as NAVY? Do you know why we are stll waiting? An excuse. An excuse with which we can destroy your little poor country AGAIN.

and you think the rest of the world will keep looking like a duck when you try to do this ?

 

[ChineseTiger1986]

If Vietnam was part of China for 1000 years, why isn't PRC claiming Vietnam yet? Isn't that the logic they have used in Tibet and even their claim on Arunachal Pradesh is based on that very logic.

Whats the go here? Does PRC only claim resource rich areas with small population?

The northern part of Vietnam was the conquest from the Tang Dyanasty to the Ming Dynasty.

Traditionally, it did not belong to us, so no reason to reclaim this place when it already got its independence from France.

 

[Martian2]

Vietnam was indeed part of China for a thousand years. It is time for China to wage war on Vietnam to reclaim lost Chinese territory.

History of Vietnam - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

"The history of Vietnam begins over 2,700 years ago.[citation needed] By far Vietnam's most important historical international relationship has been with China.[1] Vietnam's prehistory includes a legend about a kingdom known as Van Lang (2787–2858 BC) that included what is now China's Guangxi Autonomous Region and Guangdon province, as well as the northern part of Vietnam.[2] Later, successive dynasties based in China ruled Vietnam directly for most of the period from 207 BC until 938 when Vietnam regained its independence.[2] Vietnam remained a tributary state to its larger neighbor China for much of its history but repelled invasions by the Chinese as well as three invasions by the Mongols between 1255 and 1285.[3] Emperor Trần Nhân Tông later diplomatically submitted Vietnam to a tributary of the Yuan to avoid further conflicts. The independent period temporarily ended in the middle to late 19th century, when the country was colonized by France (see French Indochina)."

 

[BlackSheep]

Vietnam was indeed part of China for a thousand years. It is time for China to wage war on Vietnam to reclaim lost Chinese territory.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_Vietnam]History of Vietnam - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

"The history of Vietnam begins over 2,700 years ago.[citation needed] By far Vietnam's most important historical international relationship has been with China.[1] Vietnam's prehistory includes a legend about a kingdom known as Van Lang (2787–2858 BC) that included what is now China's Guangxi Autonomous Region and Guangdon province, as well as the northern part of Vietnam.[2] Later, successive dynasties based in China ruled Vietnam directly for most of the period from 207 BC until 938 when Vietnam regained its independence.[2] Vietnam remained a tributary state to its larger neighbor China for much of its history but repelled invasions by the Chinese as well as three invasions by the Mongols between 1255 and 1285.[3] Emperor Trần Nhân Tông later diplomatically submitted Vietnam to a tributary of the Yuan to avoid further conflicts. The independent period temporarily ended in the middle to late 19th century, when the country was colonized by France (see French Indochina)."

Mongol invaded China, therefore, in the Chinese mindset, Mongol is part of China.
China invaded Vietnam, therefore, Vietnam is also part of China?
Japan invaded China, therefore, China make no claim toward Japan?

Double/triple standard much? At least our dignity is consistent enough that we don't worship our invaders.

 

[Martian2]

Mongol invaded China, therefore, in the Chinese mindset, Mongol is part of China.
China invaded Vietnam, therefore, Vietnam is also part of China?
Japan invaded China, therefore, China make no claim toward Japan?

Double/triple standard much? At least our dignity is consistent enough that we don't worship our invaders.

Do Mongols have thermonuclear weapons? Can Mongols send taikonauts into orbit for a spacewalk? Mongols are not to be compared to Hans.

Only Americans may compare themselves to Hans. All other analogies fall short.

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CCP to do list:

1. Reclaim Hong Kong (done)

2. Reclaim Macau (done)

3. Reclaim Taiwan

4. Reclaim South Tibet

5. Reclaim 1,000-year-old Chinese-ruled Vietnam

 

[the_islander]

Vietnam was indeed part of China for a thousand years. It is time for China to wage war on Vietnam to reclaim lost Chinese territory.

History of Vietnam - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

"The history of Vietnam begins over 2,700 years ago.[citation needed] By far Vietnam's most important historical international relationship has been with China.[1] Vietnam's prehistory includes a legend about a kingdom known as Van Lang (2787–2858 BC) that included what is now China's Guangxi Autonomous Region and Guangdon province, as well as the northern part of Vietnam.[2] Later, successive dynasties based in China ruled Vietnam directly for most of the period from 207 BC until 938 when Vietnam regained its independence.[2] Vietnam remained a tributary state to its larger neighbor China for much of its history but repelled invasions by the Chinese as well as three invasions by the Mongols between 1255 and 1285.[3] Emperor Trần Nhân Tông later diplomatically submitted Vietnam to a tributary of the Yuan to avoid further conflicts. The independent period temporarily ended in the middle to late 19th century, when the country was colonized by France (see French Indochina)."

Ok then according to ur point of view, china is a part of Mongolia. LOL.

I think you misunderstand, Vietnam was invaded by chinese using force, because of their greed, not by ourself.
"King Tran Nhan Tong later diplomatically submitted Vietnam to a tributary of the Yuan to avoid further conflicts", not claiming we are chinese or china's land. In this situation, I think he did right. We were weaker, so tribute to them is a way of avoiding war. Even in the war between Quang Trung - Nguyen Hue 200 years ago, we won, but Quang Trung still would like to engage, and marry chinese king's daughter (princess). That's a way to stop war.

Today chinese is doing that oppositely, using conflict, war to demand resources.

 

[llf142003]

Well, my friend, you know nothing about China or Vietnam war.

China beat the whole UN army in the early 1950s, and what did it mean? It meant China was the strongest country at that time? Of course not. And for Vietnam war, all people know that the US failed to win mostly because the reason on politics of itself. Moreover, China also supported Vietnam so much on military during the war.

But it means nothing. For a long time, China was still suffering poverty and weakness. Do you know that we Chinese just take it as a joke when Vietnam says it beat the US.

I do not know where you come from, but it is time to widen your knowledge about China.

 

[ChineseTiger1986]

Do Mongols have thermonuclear weapons? Can Mongols send taikonauts into orbit for a spacewalk? Mongols are not to be compared to Hans.

Only Americans may compare themselves to Hans. All other analogies fall short.

Later we will deploy our Supercarrier and our Super Aegis destroyers that equipped with the laser gun and the rail gun.

Varyag will be a training carrier, so it will stay in the Northern Fleet.

And the national defence budget will be 1 trillion USD in this decade. We really need to do something about our islands in the South China Sea.

 

[the_islander]

Do Mongols have thermonuclear weapons? Can Mongols send taikonauts into orbit for a spacewalk? Mongols are not to be compared to Hans.

Only Americans may compare themselves to Hans. All other analogies fall short.

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CCP to do list:

1. Reclaim Hong Kong (done)

2. Reclaim Macau (done)

3. Reclaim Taiwan

4. Reclaim South Tibet

5. Reclaim 1,000-year-old Chinese-ruled Vietnam

Fascist should be destroyed.

 

[Martian2]

Ok then according to ur point of view, china is a part of Mongolia. LOL.

I think you misunderstand, Vietnam was invaded by chinese using force, because of their greed, not by ourself.
"King Tran Nhan Tong later diplomatically submitted Vietnam to a tributary of the Yuan to avoid further conflicts", not claiming we are chinese or china's land. In this situation, I think he did right. We were weaker, so tribute to them is a way of avoiding war. Even in the war between Quang Trung - Nguyen Hue 200 years ago, we won, but Quang Trung still would like to engage, and marry chinese king's daughter (princess). That's a way to stop war.

Today chinese is doing that oppositely, using conflict, war to demand resources.

You fail to understand the nature of Great Powers.

1. The United States annexed Hawaii.

2. Russia annexed 20% of Georgia.

3. China will eventually annex a percentage of Vietnam that was under 1,000 years of Chinese rule. That is our land and we want it back.

 

[Roybot]

The northern part of Vietnam was the conquest from the Tang Dyanasty to the Ming Dynasty.

Traditionally, it did not belong to us, so no reason to reclaim this place when it already got its independence from France.

And how do you distinguish between between something thats traditionally yours and not. How does Tibet traditionally belong to China, but Northern Vietnam doesn't.

Am genuinely curious, not trying to troll.

 

[BJP*]

Do Mongols have thermonuclear weapons? Can Mongols send taikonauts into orbit for a spacewalk? Mongols are not to be compared to Hans.

Only Americans may compare themselves to Hans. All other analogies fall short.

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CCP to do list:

1. Reclaim Hong Kong (done)

2. Reclaim Macau (done)

3. Reclaim Taiwan

4. Reclaim South Tibet

5. Reclaim 1,000-year-old Chinese-ruled Vietnam

no. 4) will not happen till the end of world, so CCP's future to do list is failed