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Deadly Israel-Lebanon border clash

This is how Israel reacts to unruly neighbours on their border. It is not right but it does show they are always ready for war. We should give same treatment to our borders too next time they let terrorists slip over. I am just saying, strafing the border a few times like the Israelis tend to do is not a bad thing. They are the only country so far who are not ashamed to show the world how serious they take national security. People like us need approval from 10 different countries to even fire one bullet in self defense.
 
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This is how Israel reacts to unruly neighbours on their border.
Murder of Israeli soldiers carrying out non-hostile activities is what "unruly" means? You wouldn't accept that of Indians shooting P.A. soldiers, would you?

Anti-Semitism ultimately is a refusal to accord basic human decency to the Jewish people. It’s a refusal to relate to a certain group of people with the common human decency with which you would relate to anybody else. That’s what racism is, essentially.
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People like us need approval from 10 different countries to even fire one bullet in self defense.
I think normally Israeli soldiers seek their commander's approval before firing. In this case, the soldiers targeted (one killed, one wounded) by Lebanese snipers lying in wait for the "tree moment" were the Israeli battalion and company commanders standing hundreds of meters away. It is a credit to the IDF that the soldiers behaved with the restraint they did, yes?
 
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I do want to know if your approach to interpreting events is colored by religious dogma.

Not relevant and a discussion for a separate thread.

How are these relevant to this incident? This is "Lebanon" stuff, not "Palestine" stuff.Is it because you consider all Israelis criminals worthy of death so that taking the life of an Israeli, any Israeli, is neither a sin nor a crime?


I will write a detail comment about the religious aspect tomorrow Insha ALLAH because it requires time, which I don't have today. Sorry for that...


Israel being the violator is 100 percent relevant. this shows how much Israeli thugs respect the so called International Law that relates to Palestine issues and regional stability.. So you will be a fool if you will reject this and say it as irrelevant.. Iran is also a violator.but has done nothing wrong to other nations as Israelis thugs have done.. So why your Pathetic US Government are only against Iranians and not against those biggest violators and supports them on their every violations?.


secondly, You asked me the points to prove Israeli army as terrorist.. I gave my points according to it.. You didn't mentioned anything specifically to Lebanon. So first remember what you asked me and that write the comment here... By the way Why you only highlighted this point only as irrelevant.. All other points were also not relating to Lebanon ?


Lastly, Its in the pathetic culture of Jews that they are God's chosen people and they can do anything in this world , but they will be forgiven in the afterlife. Its not our part of religion. Our prophet (SA) taught us that " Killing of a single human is like killing of Whole humanity".. So killing anyone without a a Very Big reason, that is stated in Islam, is Prohibitory.. Anyone Muslim who kills even a single purposelessly is out of Islam and have severe punishment in afterlife..... .. So we don't consider all Israeli as our enemies first of all.. Clear yourself in this regard..

Yes we are enemies of all those who want to make their state by killing innocent men , women and children in Palestine and want to make their homes by destroying the Palestinians homes illegally... I swear to Allah if such Jews comes in front of me i will do my Jihad against them.... But We have no enmity with those Israelis who wants peace in the region by giving equal rights to the Palestinians as well ...

So if you are making a blanket statement that Muslims hate all the Jews , I feel sorry for you.....
 
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The Zionist Nazis have occupied and expelled the native Palestinians from their homeland to settle Zionist settlers from Europe. The barbaric and inhumane treatment of Palestinians shows true face these Zionist Nazis. It seems they have learned a lot from German Nazis. The attack on Lebanon is another example of these barbarians.
 
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I think normally Israeli soldiers seek their commander's approval before firing.

Oh is that the case Mr Soloman2 does that mean the Isreali army knew that it was using white phosphorus during the Gaza invasion of 2008.......knowing full well that it is against international law........does that make it a responsible army........do tell me please.
 
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I will write a detail comment about the religious aspect tomorrow Insha ALLAH because it requires time, which I don't have today. Sorry for that...
Take your time. Pakistan has greater immediate concerns today.

Israel being the violator is 100 percent relevant.
As the U.N. and Lebanese Army pointed out, the Israeli soldiers committed no violation of the border. What has been shown, exactly?

Or are you talking about U.N. resolutions in general? Such resolutions do not always have the force of law. Most Israel-condemning resolutions fall into the category of "sense of the Congress" resolutions. Since these are almost always demonstrably in error of either fact or law, they point to the U.N.'s moral failure.

Such failure is easily understood. The U.N. has many personnel providing relief to Palestinians. If they offended the terrorists the U.N. would have to spend more money - or worse, send troops - to protect its personnel. So they consider it is much cheaper to pass resolutions that sound good but have little legal ramifications. Israelis and Zionists are offended of course, but we are also told, at times, to ignore it.

This stuff gets complicated. Like you, I think ignoring it is short-sighted. The U.N. should act upon truer moral convictions and sounder legal grounding.


secondly, You asked me the points to prove Israeli army as terrorist.. I gave my points according to it.. You didn't mentioned anything specifically to Lebanon. So first remember what you asked me and that write the comment here... By the way Why you only highlighted this point only as irrelevant.
True. Sorry about that. I'm only one person. I have a life outside PDF. If there is something specific you want me to address you might have to repeat yourself.

Lastly, Its in the pathetic culture of Jews that they are God's chosen people and they can do anything in this world , but they will be forgiven in the afterlife.
First of all, I'd like to point out that every adjective and adverb is a judgment call. If you employ them as part of your proof you are making a circular argument. Second, this afterlife stuff you describe is something I've never heard of. So you couldn't have studied Judaism very well if you espouse it.

Its not our part of religion. Our prophet (SA) taught us that " Killing of a single human is like killing of Whole humanity".. So killing anyone without a a Very Big reason, that is stated in Islam, is Prohibitory.. Anyone Muslim who kills even a single purposelessly is out of Islam and have severe punishment in afterlife...
This is part of the dispute between Muslims.

So we don't consider all Israeli as our enemies first of all.. Clear yourself in this regard..
No, I'm sure most Pakistanis would put India first.

Yes we are enemies of all those who want to make their state by killing innocent men , women and children in Palestine and want to make their homes by destroying the Palestinians homes illegally..
No Army comes closer to meeting the standard of "no innocents killed, ever" than the Israeli Army, save possibly the American. It's just that you don't see, say, the Pakistani Army's operations on T.V. I take it, then, you don't know about the horrors committed in Bangladesh in 1971, nor question the current P.A. policy (described in a PBS documentary reviewed at PDF) of destroying not just the homes of Taliban, but of their relatives and those who helped them. How legal is that?

I don't think you have an accurate notion of how the Israeli state came to be. You speak of "killing innocent men, women, and children" but you don't mention anything specific. You mention "destroying Palestinians houses illegally" without, I guess, knowing the legalities. It's just a mantra for you, isn't it?

I swear to Allah if such Jews comes in front of me i will do my Jihad against them.
So you'll kill me if I happen to meet you?

But We have no enmity with those Israelis who wants peace in the region by giving equal rights to the Palestinians as well -
And since the Arabs aren't interested in that, then what?
 
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