David Cameron says the UK is a Christian country

[Obambam]

It is true.

 

[Mech]

That's simply not true.

For example:


Kill People Who Don't Listen to Priests
Anyone arrogant enough to reject the verdict of the judge or of the priest who represents the LORD your God must be put to death. Such evil must be purged from Israel. (Deuteronomy 17:12 NLT)

Kill Witches
You should not let a sorceress live. (Exodus 22:17 NAB)

Kill Homosexuals
"If a man lies with a male as with a women, both of them shall be put to death for their abominable deed; they have forfeited their lives." (Leviticus 20:13 NAB)

Kill Fortunetellers
A man or a woman who acts as a medium or fortuneteller shall be put to death by stoning; they have no one but themselves to blame for their death. (Leviticus 20:27 NAB)

Death for Hitting Dad
Whoever strikes his father or mother shall be put to death. (Exodus 21:15 NAB)

Death for Adultery
If a man commits adultery with another man's wife, both the man and the woman must be put to death. (Leviticus 20:10 NLT)

Kill Nonbelievers
They entered into a covenant to seek the Lord, the God of their fathers, with all their heart and soul; and everyone who would not seek the Lord, the God of Israel, was to be put to death, whether small or great, whether man or woman. (2 Chronicles 15:12-13 NAB)

Kill Followers of Other Religions.
If your own full brother, or your son or daughter, or your beloved wife, or you intimate friend, entices you secretly to serve other gods, whom you and your fathers have not known, gods of any other nations, near at hand or far away, from one end of the earth to the other: do not yield to him or listen to him, nor look with pity upon him, to spare or shield him, but kill him. Your hand shall be the first raised to slay him; the rest of the people shall join in with you. You shall stone him to death, because he sought to lead you astray from the Lord, your God, who brought you out of the land of Egypt, that place of slavery. And all Israel, hearing of this, shall fear and never do such evil as this in your midst. (Deuteronomy 13:7-12 NAB)

Old testament.

 

[Nair saab]

I am neither a protestant nor a catholic. Rather, a Syrian Christian. Forgive me for sticking to what the bible says and not what people did to exercise control and gain power. The original point of mine being, there is NO SCOPE or provision to murder or persecute anyone under any circumstance within Christianity itself.

There is Nothing called Syrian Christian...its Syrian Catholica if i am not wrong...There is Nothing wrong in calling UK a Christian country Since they still Follow the Christian Tradition Similarly India is a Hindu Country...

 

[PacificBeach]

Old testament.

So what is your point then???

If old testament is God's word then how come people get to change it or dismiss it later as you are doing now?

If old testament is not God's word, which book was God's word then?

Allah describes in Quran the people who write the book with their own hands and then claim is His word:

Suratul Bakara verse 79 (2-79)
"So woe to those who write the "scripture" with their own hands, then say, "This is from Allah ," in order to exchange it for a small price. Woe to them for what their hands have written and woe to them for what they earn."

 

[samv]

Old testament.

What does that mean? That it's not a part of Christianity?

 

[Mech]

There is Nothing called Syrian Christian...its Syrian Catholica if i am not wrong....

You are wrong.

 

[Mech]

What does that mean? That it's not a part of Christianity?

You missed the point. With the advent of Christ, a lot of things changed. Besides, none of the books within the bible are "dictated by god"......except maybe the revelations ( it describes a dream ). The penteauch was written by Moses; Outlining his history and that of Israel. The bible itself is not one book. Rather, its a compilation of several books written over centuries. These books were compiled to form the bible we have today in nicene.

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So what is your point then???

If old testament is God's word then how come people get to change it or dismiss it later as you are doing now?

If old testament is not God's word, which book was God's word then?

Allah describes in Quran the people who write the book with their own hands and then claim is His word:

Suratul Bakara verse 79 (2-79)
"So woe to those who write the "scripture" with their own hands, then say, "This is from Allah ," in order to exchange it for a small price. Woe to them for what their hands have written and woe to them for what they earn."

Well, you're talking about allah and Islam. Which really isn't my area of expertise nor concern.

 

[harpoon]

What does that mean? That it's not a part of Christianity?

Just bcs it is said in a holy book doesn't mean that one had to follow word for word. For God sake use your common sense.

 

[ashokdeiva]

I see nothing wrong here, a leader of a nation whoes nation was built on the principles of Bible and Chirstianity is saying that we are still following the traditions and are so a Christian nation, so did the former PM of Australia said.
UK might have a lot of people who follow other faiths or even do not follow a faith but that does not alter the fact that all of UK's system of living is based on laws that were centered based on the Bible.

And I don't know why people from other religion pounces on his words and say some thing like "Christians do no go to church, What is secular in UK? etc"

Wheather Chistians go to church or not, they still are Christians with Christian names, thats not going to change.
In the same way secular does not mean that a nation with majority of people following Christianity calling the country as Christian Nation is wrong, secularism is about how the law of the land does not force minority to convert or prosecute the minority based on religious difference or punish a person of minority because he insulted the God of Majority.
its about the right to express freely with out getting interupted. ofcourse this freedom comes with some strings.

 

[PacificBeach]

You missed the point. With the advent of Christ, a lot of things changed. Besides, none of the books within the bible are "dictated by god"......except maybe the revelations ( it describes a dream ). The penteauch was written by Moses; Outlining his history and that of Israel. The bible itself is not one book. Rather, its a compilation of several books written over centuries. These books were compiled to form the bible we have today in nicene.

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Well, you're talking about allah and Islam. Which really isn't my area of expertise nor concern.

Actually you choose to avoid answering the two questions I asked which did not mention Islam at all.
It was about you and a few logical questions about the old testament (and also the new )

 

[A1Kaid]

It is true.

It is true... Challenge Accepted.

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UK is keeping it straight Christian.

 

[Safriz]

Not Christianity as such, merely the morals.eg treat your neighbor as you would yourself etc.

Looking at how many churches are being Disused and converted to Gyms and libraries,and looking at the fact that only Migrant Christians are more than 70% of the very few church attendants on a Sunday,and looking at how openly people deny God and abuse Jesus...Cameron is lier if he says Britain is Christian..
He should speak for himself only..
He is only going to church to be friends with the clergy as they have started to criticize his government.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2011/dec/05/riots-return-young-archbishop-canterbury
http://www.indcatholicnews.com/news.php?viewStory=19484
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/201...-occupy-movement-trinity-church?newsfeed=true
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/u...ll-end-to-occupation-of-st-pauls-6279079.html

 

[lem34]

'Sharp decline' in faith as number of Christians in Britain falls to half | Mail Online

 

[474474]

Those who disobeyed the Old Testament law were killed without mercy. It will be much worse for those who displease Jesus. 10:28-29


The guilty are "justified" and "saved from wrath" by the blood of an innocent victim. 5:9


Jesus believes people are crippled by God as a punishment for sin. He tells a crippled man, after healing him, to "sin no more, lest a worse thing come unto thee." 5:14


God is like a rich man who owns a vineyard and rents it to poor farmers. When he sends servants to collect the rent, the tenants beat or kill them. So he sent his son to collect the rent, and they kill him too. Then the owner comes and kills the farmers and gives the vineyard to others. 12:1-9

Get the point?

 

[InFn-0]

So that would mean UK is not a secular country? Just to let you know if you are not a christian you cannot be a prime minister of the UK.