Dassault Rafale, tender | News & Discussions

[Raul_AD]

Not for me, but I only take reliable articles and sources seriously and MoD stating that the ToT offer is complying vs an LCA fanboy with a blog, that happens to have a Prof title. Well, pretty simple to me.

Rafale or Typhoon which one is better???

http://topolo.free.fr/Compare/Rafale vs Typhoon.pdf

 

[sancho]

Rafale or Typhoon which one is better???

Depends on where you put your priorities, both have their advantages in certain fields.

 

[Raul_AD]

Depends on where you put your priorities, both have their advantages in certain fields.

They are pretty much neck-to-neck no distinctive advantage to any one. Typhoon will also fare well in place of Rafale, if India gets it on much reduced price, then Rafale.

 

[sancho]

They are pretty much neck-to-neck no distinctive advantage to any one. Typhoon will also fare well in place of Rafale, if India gets it on much reduced price, then Rafale.

They can reduce their offer, but will find it hard to get below the Rafale costs. However, if the offer gets us more in return it would be worth it. Capability wise the biggest downsides if the EF are the lack of AESA and limited long range heavy strike configs.

 

[sancho]

The DGA confident on French arms exports

The Delegate General for Armaments Laurent Collet-Billon has been quite confident about the prospects for exports of military equipment in the year 2015 at the hearing by members of the Committee on National Defence and armed forces. He cites the current prospects for the Rafale, India and Qatar, ensuring that "the matter is serious and conducted discreetly," a "good sign" that suggests prospects rather optimistic about signing future contracts. Without advance on a date, the CEO said that the timing differences between India and France (fiscal year starts in April in India) may play a role in advancing the project...

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[Derolo]

As soon as IAF gets 1st squadron delivery the chaps over at Navy will surely want 2-3sqn of the Rafale-M seeing as we will be getting a CATOBAR AC in the future this will be something to look forward to.

Mig-29K and Rafale-M now thats one heck of a naval aviation wing.

 

[Raul_AD]

https://twitter.com/x/status/529988149779243008

Hilarious is'nt it ??????????????

 

[sancho]

https://twitter.com/x/status/529988149779243008

Hilarious is'nt it ??????????????

HAL has issues with developing the IJT, but the licence production of Hawks goes well, which shows that this comparison doesn't really work. LCA is neither developed by HAL, nor is it fully develped yet and HAL only needs to produce it, like it is the case with, MKI, Dhruvs, Hawks or Do 228.

 

[Jason bourne]

Majority of defence deals are stuck up due to lobbying, vested interest and kickbacks: Parrikar.

 

[sancho]

Majority of defence deals are stuck up due to lobbying, vested interest and kickbacks: Parrikar.

The PM lobbying for privat industry and delaying LUH, NLUH and SSK deals belong to these too, that's why Parrikar has to stop this lobbying as well.

 

[Sahasranama]

The PM lobbying for privat industry and delaying LUH, NLUH and SSK deals belong to these too, that's why Parrikar has to stop this lobbying as well.

Must be true since you said it

 

[Raul_AD]

The PM lobbying for privat industry and delaying LUH, NLUH and SSK deals belong to these too, that's why Parrikar has to stop this lobbying as well.

What the hell Saint Antony doing as DM till Six months Back????? All you want INSTANT RESULT from present Govt.????

Btw How many requirements worth Billion$ cleared by a PART-TIME a DM in present Govt.?????

The Philosophy adopted by Present Govt. needs deep thinking and application because this will make India as serious EXPORTER OF DEFENCE EQUIPMENTS from 5-10 years in future. At the same time it should not affect Defence Prepairdness of Forces. It requires vision and implementation, if some thing gets delayed by few more months don't make much difference before the Boll gets Rolling. Afterall WE ARE ALREADY DELAYED BY 10 YEARS THANKS TO UPA, SONIA, SAINT ANTONY.

 

[DrSomnath999]

AIR FAN N 431 october 2014

AESA. (page 7)
- In terms of performance, the French Air Force says the detection is now exceptional both for range, acquisition speed or tracking stability . Gains are spectacular with twice the current range, wider scan field and increased resistance to jamming and decoying.
- Same symbology is used. Crews can pass easily from PESA to AESA and vice versa.
- The exact number is classified but RBE2 has over 1000 modules.
- Need only 2 hours to replace PESA by AESA antenna, without any test or software changes....

DDM NG (page 8):
- Lower false alarm rate.
- Better discrimination of threats.
- Increased resolution and increased detection range.

F3.4 + (page 8)
- Improved interaction between file and radar terrain following modes.
- Allows to work on a high-resolution radar image stored while the radar continues to operate in air to air mode.
- Automatic conversion of LGZ geographical coordinates into MGRS (Military Grid Reference System).
- Pilots have now access to navigation data on the electronic counter-measures page to allow them to stay on the SPECTRA display during a combat phase.
...

Development funded by Dassault (pages 9 to 10)
- Completed: Conformal Fuel Tank. Tested on Rafale B01 in the early 2000s, 1,150 l per CFT. Subsonic and supersonic flights have demonstrated a negligible effect on the flight qualities of the aircraft.
- Ongoing: satellite transmission system. Ongoing test on Rafale B01 equipped with INMARSAT antenna. (International Maritime Satellite)
- Ongoing. Even if it is not a priority for the French Air Force and Navy, the integration work of a HMD for export customers is underway[Topowl, Scorpion ? it's not specified]

F3R (pages 11 to 18 )
- 500 development flights are scheduled between mid 2014 and 2017. (Meteor, GBU 16, SBU-54 AASM, TALIOS pod, improved Spectra; improved RBE2, new reco-ng mode, IFF mode 5s....).
- Meteor fire control trials began in July 2014 on Rafale B301 and in September 2014 on Rafale C101.
- Every Rafales will be able to fire Meteor, PESA Rafale included.
- Integration of the GBU-16 (500kg). it's the logical complement of GBU-12 Paveway II (250kg), GBU-22 Paveway III (250kg) and GBU-24 Paveway III (1000kg) which are already integrated. Rafale F3R could be equipped with 2 GBU-16 on hardpoints 2 under the wings.
- SBU-54 (AASM laser) is already integrated, but at a minimum. Tests must improve fire-control to account the full capabilities of the weapon in matter of range and misalignment relative to the trajectory of the aircraft.
- AGCAS (Automatic Ground Collision Avoidance System) will be thoroughly tested from April 2015. Fully automatic detection of danger and recovery, without any human intervention, in order to reduce the risk of a crash due to human error (G-LOC, spatial disorientation ... ) to zero.
- Spectra: improved detection , improved jamming capabilities and decoying in order to cope with more complex scenarios.
- Reco-NG: improved real-time mode (collection, visualization and data transfer)
- First tests of the new Talios pod planned mid-2016.
- New flight refueling pod (NARANG) with higher flow, better reliability... Tests planned end 2015.
....

Future (page 18/19)
- Mid-life renovation between 2020 and 2030 : new weapons (Mica NG ..). Engineers are working on better interlacing of air-air, air-ground and air-sea capabilities, better connectivity and better radar and infrared discretion ...
- Rafale NG (after 2030): new structure, RCS reduction, more powerful engines, sensors on the entire surface of the aircraft, DIRCM (Directional Infrared Counte-Measures) with laser turrets. Cooperation with drones; Rafale NG could become a platform managing a patrol of several drones...



COURTESY -OLYBRIUS THE GREAT
THANK YOU FOR THE INFO MATE

 

[sancho]

@Abingdonboy

I checked with Olybrius recently on the open deliveries of Rafale M and he confirmed that still 7 are about to come by 2015/16. That means that only 8 Rafale Air Force versions will be build in the same time, that could be diverted to an export customer and that another 10 would need to be taken out of operational service to provide a full squad.
In comparision, EF T3A delivery just started this year and Germany alone will get 26 fighters till the end of 2017, which shows the advantage the EF has in terms of early delivery and countering falling squad numbers.

 

[sancho]

Economic ties top agenda as Modi meets Cameron, EU chief, Abe

...
Though he was meeting the British prime minister for the first time, the ground for an upscale in bilateral relations was laid during the visit by British Foreign Secretary Phillip Hammond and later Defence Secretary Michael Fallon to India in the past few months. Britain is pushing for the European Consortium to bag the multi-billion dollar Indian deal for 126 fighter jets with its Eurofighter Typhoon in case the Modi government's negotiations for the French Rafale jets fall through. The European Consortium comprises Britain, Germany, Italy and Spain.

Modi will have bilateral meetings with German Chancellor Angela Merkel and also Spain's Prime Minister Mariano Rajoy on the sidelines of the G20. He will also meet French President Francois Hollande, who is likely to push for negotiations to clinch the multi-billion dollar deal for the Rafale, which was selected two years ago for the 126 Medium Multi-Role Combat Aircraft (MMRCA) project...

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