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[Abingdonboy]

Gov agreement ready to be signed, technical contracts more or less wrapped up. The rest is political.

So what is holding them back?

 

[dbc]

So what is holding them back?

Sticker shock

 

[Superboy]

Dassault suffers hangover from prolonged negotiations in India - FT.com

 

[GURU DUTT]

By 2025 PAF would have:

at least 200 JF-17
at least 4 Erieye + at least 4 Karakoram Eagle AWACs
at least 4 Il-78 aerial refuelers

Looks like IAF would have the edge according to your plan.

Let's say Tejas Mk 2 can fly by 2017 according to plan, it would be inducted by 2024. I don't see how IAF can field 150 Tejas by 2025.

The Light Combat Aircraft will attain IOC this year and FOC by 2015

well there are four tejas variants in works 2 naval and 2 IAF version and yes they are of MK2 and fly later this year and two sepparrate prodution lines are in cunstruction for the same

as for AWACS & AAR well we have 6 russian IL based AA refulers + 6 based on Airbus are on order as for AWACs 3 phalcons are already there two are on order besides a further order of 6 more is under nagociations + 4 emberear based DRDO AWACs are under construction and testing phase + 16 more willbe ordered shortlly and one new Boing based rodome/Phalcon type AWACs is under research

dont worry about us and rafale is seurlii coming and the order just might grow to 200 in total

 

[halloweene]

THe technical negociations are very close to be finished. The government agreement is done and waits for signature of tecnical contacts. The timing will be given by india .

 

[sancho]

Indian MoD Approves BEL, Thales JV To Develop Radars

The Indian Ministry of Defense has approved the formation of a Joint Venture Company with Thales for the design, development, marketing, supply and support of civilian and select defence radars for Indian and global markets.

Thales will hold 26 per cent stake in the company, as per the Defence foreign direct investment (FDI) norms that India prescribes at present. BEL, as expected, will hold the rest 74 per cent stake, which is touted to be around $10 million...

Indian MoD Approves BEL, Thales JV To Develop Radars


The next step in the right direction?

 

[Abingdonboy]

THe technical negociations are very close to be finished. The government agreement is done and waits for signature of tecnical contacts. The timing will be given by india .

So what do you think? Soon? And how soon is soon?

Indian MoD Approves BEL, Thales JV To Develop Radars


The next step in the right direction?

Indeed, certainly seems all the stars are lining up.......

 

[sancho]

Indeed, certainly seems all the stars are lining up.......

It will be interesting though, what parts of SPECTRA might be produced or even customized by BEL.

 

[Abingdonboy]

It will be interesting though, what parts of SPECTRA might be produced or even customized by BEL.

Indeed, but what customisations do you think BEL can make for the IAF to SPECTRA?

 

[sancho]

Indeed, but what customisations do you think BEL can make for the IAF to SPECTRA?

Different RWRs for example, similar to MKI or LCA and it is evident that IAF has a preference for UV MAWS with more than 2 x sensors like the DDM NG, which is based on IR sensors, not to mention that DIRCM system could be interesting too and we have some Israeli options there. So that are some possibilities, but I personally I always hoped for joint developments of Rafale upgrades, which would be a win win, sadly so far it's doesn't look like that.

P.S. Given the fact that FGFAs EWS will be developed now too, it actually would make sense to look for commonlity of systems. RWR, LWR, UV MAWS, DIRCM, jammers...

 

[Abingdonboy]

Different RWRs for example, similar to MKI or LCA and it is evident that IAF has a preference for UV MAWS with more than 2 x sensors like the DDM NG, which is based on IR sensors, not to mention that DIRCM system could be interesting too and we have some Israeli options there. So that are some possibilities, but I personally I always hoped for joint developments of Rafale upgrades, which would be a win win, sadly so far it's doesn't look like that.

P.S. Given the fact that FGFAs EWS will be developed now too, it actually would make sense to look for commonlity of systems. RWR, LWR, UV MAWS, DIRCM, jammers...

All true. But as far as DIRCMs go- what IAF systems have these? None as of now. Although I've heard the LCH will have DIRCMs and apparently ELBIT offered DIRCMs for the IAF's C-17s but I don't know if the IAF took them up on this offer.

 

[sancho]

All true. But as far as DIRCMs go- what IAF systems have these? None as of now. Although I've heard the LCH will have DIRCMs and apparently ELBIT offered DIRCMs for the IAF's C-17s but I don't know if the IAF took them up on this offer.

The AW 101 VIP had it, the LCH was planned to get it, Rudra possibly too, FGFA for sure. So it's definitely part of the future EW package of several IAF aircrafts and after Kargil, I think IAF might have an interest in that system for fighters (especially the once that operates at low altitudes) too.

 

[ice bomb]

India, Dassault Rafale Deal Appears Stalled | Defense News | defensenews.com
India, Dassault Rafale Deal Appears Stalled

 

[Last Samuri]

When will someone have the GUTS/BALLS to make a decision on this saga either way.

YES OR NO put us out of our misery

 

[halloweene]

Pure BS