Dassault Rafale, tender | News & Discussions

[sathya]

I had told to Sancho. IAF will either buy Mig35 which may do its work economically and efficiently for just $55mil per piece, or, if they want to pay twice then its Rafale only, the best Multi Role aircraft of the 4++ generation. We now hope IAF may prefer to wait for 2-3 years for the first batch of Rafale but they would go for the best features of Rafale only which would incorporate a powerful AESA radar, stealth features etc like how SU30MKIs are being upgraded to Super Sukhoi 30, SU35 to SU35BM, J10 to J10B, and Eurofighter to Euro 2020 etc

And now Its Mig35/ Mig29VOT for 80 more, as it already had infrastructure of Mig29s (68Mi29SMT+45Mi29k). Mig35, a primarily an air superiority aircraft with much improved A2G roles and very powerful AESA radar, while Mig29k being already supplied for INS Vikramaditya & IAC-1, Indian pilots already experienced on this aircrafts, which is available for just 55mil per piece with loaded with missiles also? Mig35 is set to win this additional $4.5bn deal to supply 80 MMRCA

we would like to have SUPER SUKHOI.. or PAKFA
No thanks to Mig 35, we bought Mig29k instead..

 

[Imran Khan]

ther r always Mr 10% around..

i think you have less then 10% dear .10% or speciality of pakistan

 

[Vasily Zaytsev]

but still what is unit cost damn 126in 10.4bn$

As per CNN IBN , which is reporting unit price of roughly US $ 65 million.

Take it at its face value.

 

[sathya]

its better to pay kickbacks dear rather then crash every month jets . its ok new page of IAF history .

btw were is storm force and his thread TYPHOON hit PAKISTAN

still 80 aircrafts are in ...
anyone can win..

 

[Imran Khan]

OHHH Many banned members make new ids for enjoy this moment who can a new guy know abut that much details ? when i join forum i know only pakistani jets without speces

 

[angeldude13]

congrats iaf

 

[praveen007]

The IAF will buy the first 18 aircraft off the shelf by end of 2012,
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http://******frontierindia***.net/i...ndian-air-force-mmrca-contract-lowest-bidder/
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New Delhi: French Dassault Aviation SA (AM) is close to winning its first order for Rafale aircraft and that too the mother of all fighter aircraft export deals. Dassault Rafale has been declared the lowest price bidder of the much-awaited medium multi-role combat aircraft (MMRCA) deal for $10.4 billion.
The value is expected to go up to $ 20 Billion. Dassault has struggled to find foreign buyer
for Rafale. It’s bid was said to be ‘significantly’ lower than the other fighter, the Eurofighter Typhoon. The MMRCA is India’s biggest single defence deal which will see India purchasing 126 fighters planes for the Indian Air Force.
A final contract will be signed following negotiations by March this year. As per the contract rules, India will now negotiate the terms and the offsets clause.
India had shortlisted the Rafale and Eurofighter in April 2011, after rejecting bids from U.S. manufacturers Lockheed Martin Corp., Boeing Co., the Swedish Saab AB (SAABB) and the Russian OAO United Aircraft Corp.
The IAF will buy the first 18 aircraft off the shelf by end of 2012, while the other 118 will be manufactured in partnership with an Indian company.
Dassault Aviation SA (AM) is yetto comment.

 

[Rocky25]

The Happiest day in my life!

 

[z9-ec]

The IAF will buy the first 18 aircraft off the shelf by end of 2012,
.
http://******frontierindia***.net/i...ndian-air-force-mmrca-contract-lowest-bidder/
.
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New Delhi: French Dassault Aviation SA (AM) is close to winning its first order for Rafale aircraft and that too the mother of all fighter aircraft export deals. Dassault Rafale has been declared the lowest price bidder of the much-awaited medium multi-role combat aircraft (MMRCA) deal for $10.4 billion.
The value is expected to go up to $ 20 Billion. Dassault has struggled to find foreign buyer
for Rafale. It’s bid was said to be ‘significantly’ lower than the other fighter, the Eurofighter Typhoon. The MMRCA is India’s biggest single defence deal which will see India purchasing 126 fighters planes for the Indian Air Force.
A final contract will be signed following negotiations by March this year. As per the contract rules, India will now negotiate the terms and the offsets clause.
India had shortlisted the Rafale and Eurofighter in April 2011, after rejecting bids from U.S. manufacturers Lockheed Martin Corp., Boeing Co., the Swedish Saab AB (SAABB) and the Russian OAO United Aircraft Corp.
The IAF will buy the first 18 aircraft off the shelf by end of 2012, while the other 118 will be manufactured in partnership with an Indian company.
Dassault Aviation SA (AM) is yetto comment.

Indeed, I had a hunch this would be the case with Rafale. EF if my memory serves right refused to give such an offer.

 

[KRAIT]

we would like to have SUPER SUKHOI.. or PAKFA
No thanks to Mig 35, we bought Mig29k instead..

We don't need Mig 35, SUper Sukhoi already going to have AESA, advanced avionics, ram coating (proposed) etc.

 

[Ambitious.Asian]

JF-17 is not that good for taking Rafle, J-10 is PAF first choice. At leat it doesnt cost you 10.4 billion.

i don't think that J-10 can GET down any rafale on it's OWN.....correct me if i was wrong

 

[sreekimpact]

WOW!!!!..............

 

[Ambitious.Asian]

* 2000: Indian Air Force (IAF) conveys to defence ministry its interest in acquiring medium multi-role combat aircraft (MMRCA) to replace its ageing fleet of Soviet-era MiG-21s and because of delays in developing the indigenous light combat aircraft (LCA).

* 2001: IAF issues request for information (RFI) for 126 combat jets.

* 2003: IAF seeks defence ministry's permission to buy 50 more French Mirage-2000s to shore up the only MMRCAs in its fleet as a stop-gap arrangement. The aircraft had been acquired in the mid-1980s.

* 2004: Defence ministry asks IAF to instead issue a larger MMRCA tender.

* 2005: Defence ministry issues initial MMRCA tender but withdraws it quickly even as it starts receiving responses from vendors.

* 2006: The then IAF chief, Air Chief Marshal S.P. Tyagi, flags the dwindling squadron strength of the force. From a sanctioned strength of 39.5 combat squadrons, the IAF is down to 33 squadrons.

* August 2007: India issues the tender for 126 MMRCAs at an estimated cost of $10.4 billion.

* February 2008: US majors Boeing and Lockheed Martin, Russia's United Aircraft Corporation, France's Dassault, European consortium EADS and Sweden's SAAB submit their bids.

* April 2009: Reports that Dassault and SAAB are out of the race.

* May 2009: Defence ministry says Dassault and SAAB still in contention.

* April 2010: IAF completes its flight and weapons evaluation of the six contenders on the basis of 643 parameters.

* December 2010: Offset proposals of contenders goes missing; later found on the roadside in south Delhi. The incident threatens to derail the tendering process.

* April 2011: India down-selects EADS and Dassault for the final leg of the contest, rejecting the other four contenders.

* November 2011: The commercial offers from European consortium Eurofighter and France's Dassault Aviation opened.

>January 31, 2012: Dassault informed that it has emerged as the lowest bidder.

 

[SQ8]

The actual winner...
MIG-21 Pilots.. they probably celebrated like crazy

 

[帅的一匹]

I think cost was never an issue with J-10B as China would be providing some level of assistance in the form of long term financial assistance. It was more to do with what IAF would procure and how to respond to that decision.

China have 3 thousand billions USD reservation, it dosnt matter whether PAK will pony up the bill or not. 10.4 billion USD could afford 200 plus J10 already. I think Rafle is a very good MRCA for India, but J-10 could take on it as to unit price and specification. J-10 is more good at air combat than Rafle, which is more a good choice for Indian Navy.