Dassault Rafale, tender | News & Discussions

[asad71]

Do not forget the Yankee factor. They have tied India under a nuclear deal and some more - so that they benefit from India's major arms purchases. I suspect Eurofighter will come with an American weapons/instrument package. That would bound India not to take major strategic decisions going counter to US interests.

 

[GURU DUTT]

Typhoon with ASEA radar& american Wepon's + some isrealy electronic wrfare tech man that would really be great news for india

 

[Archie]

Do not forget the Yankee factor. They have tied India under a nuclear deal and some more - so that they benefit from India's major arms purchases. I suspect Eurofighter will come with an American weapons/instrument package. That would bound India not to take major strategic decisions going counter to US interests.

Using them as a possible insurance policy against China , is not exactly against US interest

As Far as Pak is concerned , well our 270 MKI , 68 Mig29smt and 51 Mirage 2000v5 are enough till 2025

 

[sancho]

Mat ethe articles you have quoted refer to the RAF Typhoons and not all Typhoons in general. In fact all you are highlighting is the dire straights the RAF is in, in terms of budget and supplies. You can't ***** the entire EFT program based on failures by the RAF to properly secure spares. You don't seem to get similar stories about German Typhoons. As IAF has not shortage of $ these days and certainly won't when these birds are inducted and much of the manufacturing will be done in-country IAF shouldn't have any of the same issues.

Germany: (sorry for the bad google translations)

Euro Fighter remains the Bundeswehr far too often on the ground

...Susceptibility and stagnant supply of spare parts to reduce the number of training flights - Procurement of the second tranche could be delayed...

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Austria:

Two-thirds of the Euro fighter have lame wings

15.02.2010 | 18:50 | Martin Fritzl (The Press)

Only five combat aircraft are currently operational. The Armed Forces allayed...

...That part of the fighter are under maintenance is actually normal in all armies in the world. However, for two-thirds of the aircraft that is rather unusual. The reason, according to insiders: The delivery of spare parts by the Euro-fighter manufacturer is only very slowly. So you have to build from spare parts of other fighters to keep the others ready to - a form of "cannibalization", which usually takes place at the end of the life cycle, not at the beginning.

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So it's not a problem of the UK alone, but by the complicated spare supply which contains all 4 partner countries to provide certain spares.
India won't build the whole fighter in India, especially not all the spare parts. Just look at the MKI and the reports about asking western suppliers to provide spares instead of Russian.

 

[Mughal-Prince]

The last[and the only] time SA sent it's Fighter jets to save pakistan's a$$ from Ind was way back during '71 that too only because of U.S pressure.

And I don't think that PK and SA are close enough for SA to reveal secrets about EF to PAF.

And....???

And its beyond the scope of your imagination ... Please don't bother ...

 

[Abingdonboy]

And its beyond the scope of your imagination ... Please don't bother ...

You honestly think your Saudi brothers will come to your aid when you are in need? They won't do anything the US doesn't tell them to. Where we're they in May 2011 when US violated you're sovereignty? Where were they when a CIA agent killed Pakistani citizens? Where we're they when NATO killed 24 of you're soldiers? Where we're they when Pakistan was divided into 2 and Pakistan faced the humiliation of having the largest number of soldiers POWs since WWII? Etc.

 

[jha]

You honestly think your Saudi brothers will come to your aid when you are in need? They won't do anything the US doesn't tell them to. Where we're they in May 2011 when US violated you're sovereignty? Where were they when a CIA agent killed Pakistani citizens? Where we're they when NATO killed 24 of you're soldiers? Where we're they when Pakistan was divided into 2 and Pakistan faced the humiliation of having the largest number of soldiers POWs since WWII? Etc.

Its beyond the scope of his imagination..Dont bother...

 

[Kinetic]

What media say is actually opposite what happens, the same Livefist said Rafale out but Rafale is one of the finalists, so this is not good. Because I am a supporter of EFT.

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Do not forget the Yankee factor. They have tied India under a nuclear deal and some more - so that they benefit from India's major arms purchases. I suspect Eurofighter will come with an American weapons/instrument package. That would bound India not to take major strategic decisions going counter to US interests.

India is not bound by any factor, India rejected US fighters. The only country bounded is BD, they have to work for Indian interest and you see that.

 

[perplexed]

EFT with AESA is going to be deciding factor against the J20s from PLAAF

 

[IND151]

if this nexws is true its fine. eft is good fighter. hope dat d mod takes decision soon

 

[Rajaraja Chola]

Well whateva to make IAF good !!
I supported rafale though !

 

[sathya]

Good luck India.

With Pakistan's point of view, its better that India went for EF.

? coz Pak might think about buying rafale but not EFT

 

[ILLUMINATO]

Maintaining air-superiority would be the key in future wars,ground attack can be taken care of by our strong army and yet to be inducted attack-helis in large numbers.Once we are done with enemy's air power even our tier-2 mig-21s can carry on with deep ground attacks.

EF should be the way to go forward.

 

[sathya]

^^^ SEAD missions require stealthy bombers..

once that is over even indian airlines can bomb..

 

[perplexed]

I dont think we have MKIs as a very good air superiority fighter. I mean it is but it has serious problems regarding radar sign. So its better we go for EFT. We can always use Mirage for ground attacks