Dassault Rafale, tender | News & Discussions [Thread 2]

[Tameem]

are bhai made in France rafales deal toh final kar lo, make in india deal baad main kar lena

That will be the end result one day.....Hwvr At the moment, India getting its required quota of "100 Jotay and 100 Piaz" necessary to reach that fruitful day

 

[PARIKRAMA]

''DM politely informed that present form of proposal needs much more as competing Single Jet engine offer is presently superior.''

So is F-16 coming as Make in India.But MP has been quoted as opposed to it.So,is it Modi's special interest.

Indian Air Force also visited Israel.So is an Israeli version of F-16 coming

Negotiation technique.. Trying to see who gives us better...

Whichever is the winner a lot Israeli stuff will anyway go into it..

No doubt LM atm is ahead of Saab and Boeing with its plan of F16 and F35 .. But i feel perhaps a new domestic design might win the race.. We have to wait and see..

 

[Stephen Cohen]

Negotiation technique.. Trying to see who gives us better...

Whichever is the winner a lot Israeli stuff will anyway go into it..

No doubt LM atm is ahead of Saab and Boeing with its plan of F16 and F35 .. But i feel perhaps a new domestic design might win the race.. We have to wait and see..

Will the Rafale deal be signed BEFORE or the deals for Two Planes

Ie Rafale and an American plane will happen at the same time

I mean ; is the Rafale deal getting delayed because of US offers

 

[PARIKRAMA]

Will the Rafale deal be signed BEFORE or the deals for Two Planes

Ie Rafale and an American plane will happen at the same time

I mean ; is the Rafale deal getting delayed because of US offers

Rafale deal will be signed first.. The MII will happen max by March 2017

No Rafale is not stalled bcz of USA offer.. Its rather bcz file is pending with DM MP from May end onwards..

there was suppose to be a note sent by DM MP according his observation and requesting approval from CCS who would then approve and Le Drian would fly down to sign the contract.

The moment DM MP sends the note, then we have to wait for CCS meeting and then for the contract signing ceremony..

US offers will continue but as i said earlier DM Mp first choice is not any single engine jet plane (either from LM or from Saab) or twin engined plane(Boeing F18).. His wish list is the General Atomics jet powered drones... His eyes are still on Avenger and Predator variants. His kitty is flush with funds and requirements for over 100 such drones. DM will bargain hard on those over any other offer up front.. After all he would like to take benefit of being MTCR member...

 

[Taygibay]

Saab has offerred to bring entire aerospace ecosystem to India for a period of 100 years

I call total B.S. on that one item alone!

Sorry, Tay.​

 

[#hydra#]

Fed up with rafale drama,sombody close this thread for god sake.....

 

[ayesha.a]

Saab Gripen MII proposal details

[*]Saab has offerred to bring entire aerospace ecosystem to India for a period of 100 years

I call total B.S. on that one item alone!

Sorry, Tay.​

Right, I wonder what happens at the end of that 100 years. They pack up and go back?

 

[Taygibay]

Right, I wonder what happens at the end of that 100 years. They pack up and go back?

LOLOLOL, probably! Sorta like leasing a Saturn but with the whole of Saab?
And let's not forget that renting is always more expensive in the end ...

Good day to you, Tay.

 

[Spectre]

Right, I wonder what happens at the end of that 100 years. They pack up and go back?

100 years is the max they give planet earth

 

[egodoc222]

100 years is the max they give planet earth

Yeah later,Saab may help up build a warp drive...lol

 

[Abingdonboy]

If it is the same product for Qatar and India, it can't be an Israeli's helmet.
I was convinced India will choose an Israeli's one for communality reasons....

Well the TopSight-I is already made in India (with the Samtal-Thales JV) and operational on the IAF's MiG-29UPG and Mirage 2000-5 MK.2 and the Indian Navy's MiG-29Ks so it seems the more logical choice for the IAF's (and IN's) Rafales where commonaility is concerned AND it has already been tested on the Rafale.

The only Israeli HMSD in Indian service is the DASH III intergrated with the LCA.

 

[Stephen Cohen]

Well the TopSight-I is already made in India (with the Samtal-Thales JV) and operational on the IAF's MiG-29UPG and Mirage 2000-5 MK.2 and the Indian Navy's MiG-29Ks so it seems the more logical choice for the IAF's (and IN's) Rafales where commonaility is concerned AND it has already been tested on the Rafale.

The only Israeli HMSD in Indian service is the DASH III intergrated with the LCA.

What about SU 30 MKI

Which HMDS it uses

 

[Abingdonboy]

What about SU 30 MKI

Which HMDS it uses

Sadly no HMSD used on the MKI as of now, the TopSight-I is the most likely to feature post the "Super" upgrade but then I have also heard that the HMSD being devlpped for the PAK-FA may be used but I have no specs or confirmation of that.

 

[Picdelamirand-oil]

Well the TopSight-I is already made in India (with the Samtal-Thales JV) and operational on the IAF's MiG-29UPG and Mirage 2000-5 MK.2 and the Indian Navy's MiG-29Ks so it seems the more logical choice for the IAF's (and IN's) Rafales where commonaility is concerned AND it has already been tested on the Rafale.
The only Israeli HMSD in Indian service is the DASH III intergrated with the LCA.

Could be this one also:
http://www.thalesvisionix.com/

GAME CHANGING
SCORPION® HELMET MOUNTED CUEING SYSTEM

• World’s only full-color helmet display system
• Rapid aircraft integration
• Open architecture
• Latest technology
• Lowest procurement and lifecycle costs

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• Full-color, programmable flight and ground symbology
• 24-hour day and night capability
• Sensor video capability
• Hybrid, optical-inertial motion tracking
• Rapid target acquisitions
• Highest accuracy/Lowest latency

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SCORPION® HELMET MOUNTED CUEING SYSTEM

• No avionics bay intrusions
• On-site, fully programmable symbology generator
• Hybrid, optical-inertial motion tracking
• Interchangeable among pilots

SCORPION®
HELMET MOUNTED CUEING SYSTEM

• HMIT & Dragon Spear: Programs currently in full-rate production
• Fielded by aircraft integrators and pilots
• Integrates with Gentex® and other Fixed- and Rotary-Wing Helmets

http://www.thalesvisionix.com/wp-content/uploads/ThalesVisionix_Scorpion_brochure_web.pdf

 

[Abingdonboy]

Could be this one also:
http://www.thalesvisionix.com/

GAME CHANGING
SCORPION® HELMET MOUNTED CUEING SYSTEM

• World’s only full-color helmet display system
• Rapid aircraft integration
• Open architecture
• Latest technology
• Lowest procurement and lifecycle costs

UNLEASHING PILOT POTENTIAL
SCORPION® HELMET MOUNTED CUEING SYSTEM

• Full-color, programmable flight and ground symbology
• 24-hour day and night capability
• Sensor video capability
• Hybrid, optical-inertial motion tracking
• Rapid target acquisitions
• Highest accuracy/Lowest latency

RAPID DEPLOYMENT
SCORPION® HELMET MOUNTED CUEING SYSTEM

• No avionics bay intrusions
• On-site, fully programmable symbology generator
• Hybrid, optical-inertial motion tracking
• Interchangeable among pilots

SCORPION®
HELMET MOUNTED CUEING SYSTEM

• HMIT & Dragon Spear: Programs currently in full-rate production
• Fielded by aircraft integrators and pilots
• Integrates with Gentex® and other Fixed- and Rotary-Wing Helmets

http://www.thalesvisionix.com/wp-content/uploads/ThalesVisionix_Scorpion_brochure_web.pdf

I'm a bit confused, is this the same as the GENTEX Scorpion? Has Thales bought the rights to it or is it the otherway around? Did GENTEX buy the rights for the US market?