Dassault Rafale, tender | News & Discussions [Thread 2]

[Foxbat Alok]

Finally
Each Rafale Aircraft Costs Approximately Rs 670 Crore, Says Government
http://indiandefencenews.info/t-5/

 

[Taygibay]

And on today's market that's 83.5 M€! ^^^^^^^^^^

Add fuel and delivery, basics and docs and get 92M€ as in
the Qatari option. Then comes the weapons . . . ETC.

A far cry from the 200+M$ some claimed at both the time
of the MMRCA and of the GtoG deal huh?


Veni vidi vici, comme d'hab, Tay.

 

[MimophantSlayer]

Rafale Offsets.

 

[Foxbat Alok]

Can’t reveal Rafale jets’ price: Nirmala Sitharaman
http://indiandefencenews.info/cant-reveal-rafale-jets-price-nirmala-sitharaman/

 

[Hindustani78]

http://www.thehindu.com/news/nation...pact-centre/article23385322.ece?homepage=true
Officials cite secrecy deal with France.
The Government cannot disclose details of the Rafale deal as Egypt and France had recently signed an agreement to protect classified information exchanged between the two sides, according to officials.

The government told Egyptian Parliament this week that the two sides signed the agreement when French President Emmanuel Macron visited India on March 10.

“An agreement between Egypt and France regarding the Exchange and Reciprocal Protection of Classified or Protected Information was signed during the visit of President of France to Egypt,” Minister of State for Defence Subhash Bhamre told Lok Sabha.

This new treaty would replace an agreement of 2008 and is the reason why the government would not disclose details of the deal for the purchase of Rafale fighters from France, Egyptian officials point out.

Mr. Bhamre further said: “This agreement defines the common security regulations applicable to any exchange of classified and protected information between the two countries.” The Minister did not provide further specifics of the agreement. This agreement replaces the confidentiality agreement signed between the two sides during the UPA Government in 2008.

The new agreement is significant in the wake of Opposition parties, alleging a major financial scandal in the purchase of Rafale fighter jets.

 

[ashok321]

I WON'T DISCLOSE RAFALE PRICE AND HELP ENEMY BY RESPONDING TO RAHUL GANDHI'S DEMANDS: DEFENCE MINISTER

How the enemy would benefit just by knowing the price of the Rafale?

This is the first indirect admission of a guilt.

Sukhois were bought and the nation knew what India bought. The matter did not end at that however, India went for a super Sukhoi upgrade, which is also known to the nation as to what exactly that upgrade was.

So now, with such an absurd proclamation as the revelation of price of Rafale would compromise the security of nation, is as false as a 3 dollar US bill/

Modi enriching BJP/Ambanis for 2019 elections.

 

[BON PLAN]

I WON'T DISCLOSE RAFALE PRICE AND HELP ENEMY BY RESPONDING TO RAHUL GANDHI'S DEMANDS: DEFENCE MINISTER

How the enemy would benefit just by knowing the price of the Rafale?

This is the first indirect admission of a guilt.

Sukhois were bought and the nation knew what India bought. The matter did not end at that however, India went for a super Sukhoi upgrade, which is also known to the nation as to what exactly that upgrade was.

So now, with such an absurd proclamation as the revelation of price of Rafale would compromise the security of nation, is as false as a 3 dollar US bill/

Modi enriching BJP/Ambanis for 2019 elections.

Maybe because the Rafale deal alone is less than anticipated by some, and hide some others stuff....
- access to french nuclear simulator?
- new gadgets on the Rafale?
- Assistance on Tejas 3 (or 2 or Mk1A B C...) design?
- SSN design assistance?
- Nuclear reactor for SSN co design?
etc....

 

[BON PLAN]

THE NEW IAF RFI FOR NEW MMRCA.

Tailor made for Rafale !

 

[randomradio]

The Russians said Rafales went undetected during the attack.

https://twitter.com/x/status/985105445118455810

 

[BON PLAN]

The Russians said Rafales went undetected during the attack.

https://twitter.com/x/status/985105445118455810

They are far too sympathic !!!

 

[Taygibay]

As an indication of anything, that formula
points less to military facts than diplomacy.

Good day all, Tay.

 

[Omega007]

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[BON PLAN]

List of IAF-specific modifications on Rafale

All the IAF Rafale F3-R(I) will feature a total of 14 modifications:

1) Rafael's LITENING G4 target acquisition/designation pod

2) Elbit's Targo II HMDS (also ordered by QEAF)

3) MBDA's Meteor BVRAAM and ALARM anti-radiation missile (False : Meteor is already on non indian Rafale)

4) Rafael's Spice-1000 standoff PGM and its related data-link

5) Quad-pack ejectors for SAAW EMP-emitting standoff DEW PGM

6) Optimisation of the M88 turbofan’s jet-fuel starter for operating in sub-zero temperatures at altitudes above 9,000 feet ASL

7) Upgraded SPECTRA EW suite to accommodate low-band, medium-band and high-band directional jammer apertures

8) Rafael's X-Guard towed-decoy and its onboard launcher

9) THALES' traffic collision avoidance system (TCAS)

10) THALES' standby radar altimeter

11) Increased capacity of onboard OBOGS;

12) Addition of weather-mapping mode of operation in the THALES-supplied RBE-2 AESA radar

13) Flight-qualification and integration of 450kg laser-guided HSLD bomb and its FOG-based INS with the Rafale’s onboard Sigma-95N RLG-INS through a MIL-STD-1553B interface

14) Modification of the Sigma-95N RLG-INS’ coupled GPS transceiver in order to receive MIL-STD PY-code coordinates from India’s NAVIC/IRNSS constellation of GPS satellites
https://www.facebook.com/pg/TejasMrca/photos/?ref=page_internal

 

[BON PLAN]

All Rafale standards contents

• LF1 standard (2000/05/01)
• • R550 Magic 2
• F1 standard (2001/12/01)
• • 30M791 gun A2A modes
  • Mica EM
  • SPECTRA
• F2.1 standard (2005/12/01)
• • Hadrware update
  • MDPU
  • MIDS-Link16
  • Upgraded SPECTRA
  • OSF
  • Sensor fusion
  • SCALP
  • MICA-IR
• F2.2 standard (01/06/2006)
• • SBU-38
  • Upgraded SPECTRA
  • Obsolescences updates
• F3.0 standard (01/07/2008)
• • Hardware update
  • Long range MICA-IR modes
  • High resolution Radar MAP
  • Upgraded IFF
  • SLPRM V4-2
• F3.1 standard (2009/06/01)
• • Common F3 software for retrofited F2 and F3-O aircrafts
• F3.2 standard (2010/03/01)
• • Full LGB capability
  • Damocles-MP
  • GBU-12/22
  • SBU-64
  • 30M791 gun A2G modes
  • AM39 block 2 mod 2
  • ASMP-A
  • AREOS recce pod
• F3.3 standard (2012/01/01)
• • MIDS-Link16 upgrade
  • RBE-2 AESA
  • OSF-IT
  • DDM-NG
  • New MFD
  • Improved HUD transparancy
  • Upgraded IFF
• F3.3' standard (2013/05/01)
• • GBU-24
  • AESA antenna compatibility with tranche 1, 2, 3 aircrafts
• F3.4+ standard (2014/12/01)
• • MGRS format GPS data input
  • Updated HUD safety symbology and warning
  • New take off abortion warning (max brake energy capability)
  • Real time ground following mode switch (radar-digital mapping)
• F3R standard (2018/10/01)
• • Meteor
  • Talios LDP
  • AGCAS
  • IFF mode 5/S
  • Link 16 upgrade
  • RBE-2 PESA upgrade
  • SPECTRA upgrade
  • AREOS pod upgrade
  • Full SBU-54 integration
  • AASM fuse programmation upgrade
  • GBU-16 integration
  • NARANG refueling pod
• F4.1 standard (2023 ?)
• • M88 "light"upgrade
  • Mica NG
  • SCALP-MLU or New SCALP ?
  • CONTACT radio
  • Satcom 2
  • MIDS-Link16 block upgrade 2
  • AASM upgrade
    • Block 4
    • Datalink
    • 2 new models : 500/1000 Kg
  • AASL
    • Smart Glider light
    • Smart Glider heavy
  • ASPTT (BAT 120 LG ?)
  • Active towed decoy (maybe on F4.2 ?)
  • GMTI on RBE2 AESA
  • Ultra high resolution SAR mode of RBE2 (maybe on F4.2 ?)
  • follow on PEA TRAGEDAC (passive detection improvement via aircraft networking and triangulation) (maybe on F4.2 ?)
  • High speed intra-fligt tactical data link
• F4.2 standard (2025 ?)
• • INCAS : Spectra improvement, with GaN
  • RBE-2 AESA upgrade
    • GaN antennae (with 2 side arrays added to the front antenna)
    • Ultra Haute Resolution SAR (if not on F4.1)
  • Active towed decoy (if not on F4.1)
  • new OSF IRST
  • New cockpit with bigger screens
  • Hardened weapon system architecture (follow on PEA CAPOEIRA)

 

[Hindustani78]

https://www.thehindu.com/news/national/cong-to-seek-jpc-on-rafale-deal/article24727311.ece

The Rafale deal into the focal point of its campaign for the 2019 Lok Sabha election, the All India Congress Committee (AICC) has decided to hold demonstrations from the district to State levels demanding a Joint Parliamentary Committee investigation.

This was decided at a meeting of All India Congress Committee (AICC) Legislature Party leaders, State unit chiefs and All India Congress Committee (AICC) office-bearers, chaired by All India Congress Committee (AICC) president Rahul Gandhi.

“In the next 30 days, All India Congress Committee (AICC) workers will fan out and hold district- and State- level demonstrations. Members of the All India Congress Committee (AICC) Working Committee, All India Congress Committee (AICC) general secretaries, All India Congress Committee (AICC) State in-charge leaders, All India Congress Committee (AICC) secretaries and all others will go to every level, from district to State, and ensure that a Joint Parliamentary Committee is instituted for a fair, independent and thorough probe,” the All India Congress Committee (AICC)communications head, Randeep Surjewala, said.

The All India Congress Committee (AICC) has alleged that the France-Pakistan Rafale Fighter Plane deal has caused a loss of over ₹41,000 crore to the Indian exchequer.

“A company belonging to a friend of the Prime Minister has been given a contract worth ₹30,000 crore. It was decided that the corruption scams of the Modi government, particularly after the Rafale deal, will be taken to the people of India,” Mr. Surjewala added.

All India Congress Committee (AICC) president Rahul Gandhi.has been consistently raising the Rafale deal. He also spoke about it in his speech made during the no-confidence debate on July 20.

“We will not stop, we will not be deterred, and we will continue to push for ensuring that the Rafale deal and corruption scams are exposed,” All India Congress Committee (AICC)communications head, Randeep Surjewala, said.