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Former IAF chief B S Dhanoa, the architect of Indian humiliation last year comes out with all praise for the mighty Rafale as the sole saviour of Bharat Mata in the present situation. He stops short in nearly calling the Rafale, the status of a mythical Indian deity .I am amazed and bemused how this Sardarji made it right to the top to lead a big airforce. Below are some extracts of his interview with HT.
" The Rafale with its top of the line electronic warfare suite, Meteor beyond visual range missile and SCALP air to ground weapon with its terrain following capability outguns any threat that the Chinese Air Force produces. Painting a wartime scenario, former top gun said : “ If the IAF is successful in destruction of enemy air defences and suppression of enemy air defences, then the Chinese fighters out in the open at Hotan air base and at Gonggar air base at Lhasa airport are fair targets. Some 70 Chinese aircraft are without protection at Hotan and some 26 aircraft may be parked inside a tunnel which the PLA were building at Lhasa air base,” the former air chief said."
While Air Chief Marshal (Retd) Dhanoa recognises the threat presented by Chinese J-20 fifth generation fighter, he is very confident that the IAF with its latest Rafale and Su-30 MKI will be able to counter the best the Chinese throw at India.
If Chinese equipment was so good, then why did the Pakistanis only use F-16 aircraft to attack Nangi Tekri brigade in Rajouri sector on February 27, 2019 with Chinese JF-17 merely giving air defence cover to Mirage 3/5 bombers. The Mirage 3/5 dropped the H 2/4 bombs from a safe distance with the JF 17 in a supportive role providing Air Defence to these aircraft! Why does Pakistan use Swedish early air warning platforms up north and keep Chinese AWACS in the south? Why is Pakistan mounting European radar (Selex Gallelio) and Turkish targeting pod on Chinese JF-17 ? The answer is quite evident,” the former Chief said.
However, the brilliant air tactician recognizes the Chinese threat in form of surface to air missile batteries and artillery guns, which the PLA has packed in occupied Aksai Chin. But he also makes it very clear that with no tree line cover available to the Chinese platforms, they would be sitting ducks if the air defence cover is blown over. “ The Rafale with its advanced terrain following weapons and level II of Digital Terrain Elevation Data available to the Indian pilot, the error probability of the weapon is reduced to mere 10 metres. As I have said in the past, Rafale is a game changer,” former Air Chief Dhanoa said.
While Dhanoa appreciates the enemy threat, his serving IAF officers make it very clear that the Chinese equipment is not only inferior to the US equipment but also the Russian equipment. “ Why does Chinese Air Force use Russian Su-30 and Su-35 fighters while facing the US threat in South China Sea? The fact is that the Chinese fighters are no match for the American equipment Majority of Chinese equipment is reverse engineering of Russian equipment and fighters have designs of either Su-27 or Su 30 platform. They are even powered by Russian AL 31 F (Su-30) and RD 33 (MiG-29) engines,” a serving air commander told Hindustan Times.

https://www.hindustantimes.com/indi...hief-dhanoa/story-3UJINQ1r8cuGputdMeQpOJ.html

Mr B S (Bull Shit) Dhanoa has out rightly downgraded the Chinese hardware, such complacency is not a hall mark of a professional. He should be lucky PAF spared his modesty last year, otherwise he would have been in EXILE by now. IAF with this over confident mindset might end up being decimated, if the PAF and PLAAF duo intend to show some force. Both have been practicing hard for this BATTLE for some time in the neighbourhoods of Ladakh (Shaheen exercises). :pakistan::china:

indian defence experts are not experts they are idiots , rafaels are nothing if we consider it against china .but rafaels will be used against pakistan as i think . against pakistan thse fighters are formidable assets .
 
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Great news. But I hope iaf is not over carried away by this.
This news is basically for public consumption so that people don't question the lost land and soldiers.
 
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China just recives S400 batteries
That's the father waiting for RAFAELs and to make sure that another abhinandan of IAF shot down and captured by PLA?
and BTW they won't be returning him back!
and no dam tea will be served for this time!
 
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One of the pilots who flew was my senior in school and Indian media is disclosing their names ranks and the places from where theu belongs ....showing their faces

Normal countried hide the faces of pilots bit here they are making everything public
 
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Great news. But I hope iaf is not over carried away by this.
This news is basically for public consumption so that people don't question the lost land and soldiers.
Lost land is debatable for it is virtually impossible for anyone outside of the power structure with access to the details and sat imagery to really know. Active duty guys will obviously not speak on it.

A whole new industry of analysts has popped up with the maps and fingers and Chinese here, Indian there.. nobody really knows.

I would say it is possible we lost land but equally possible we did not.

Give the Rafales a year or 2 before expecting them to be deployed on combat duty, MKIs and the rest are good enough for CAP or any offensive or defensive missions till then.

We must master it before wielding it in a field of battle.. China, Pak and India.. all concerned parties understand this well so it is obviously not a threat to anyone just yet.
 
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Russian S400 delivery completed to China before RAFAEL touch down in India, yestedays news!!

LET'S SEE, WHEN IAF has the ballz to fly these Rafaels near PLAs positions they ill ready to shot these expensive birds!!!
India are you ready, how is the Josh??? Lolzzzzz
 
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The glibness of Modi and the gullible-ness of Indians are amazing.

Anil Ambani and Mukesh Ambani must be creating all the hoopla through their owned Godi media...and check how many thousand crores Anil Ambani has made as commission.
 
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Forget 5 even 36 won't help much, we need the follow-up order of 44. Also help from Dassault for speedy development of AMCA.
 
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... rafaels will be used against pakistan as i think . against pakistan thse fighters are formidable assets .

Says who?

Where was the fleet of 230+ Su-30 MKIs (mini awacs) when Operation Swift Retort was launched in broad dalylight against India?

I heard they bingoed out. Is that true?
 
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