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The real shame is to actually lose your entire country to Nazis without a proper fight
LOL.
When you don't know the France history, please close the hole under your nose.

So just a small lesson on the french history of WW1 and WW2 : WW1 was mainly won by France. All the battles were on the north of France, heavily destroyed at the end (not the German case) and France suffer the most casualties. It was so a shock that we did all to avoid another war, including some very bad choices as the Munich agreement.
The french army was one war late, with tanks badly used, lacks of radios, and mainly too old generals.
But we fought bravely. For exemple we destroyed in air combat as planes as the german did.

So take some time to educate yourself before telling nonsense.
 
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It was 5 injured, but some Indians say baahubali came and killed 50. Lol

5 injured? Well, well..so this is the level of misinformation that the CCP is spreading within China.

16 Chinese bodies were handed over by the IA to the PLA after the melee ended, as per official IA reports. Plus many were killed on the PLA side of the LAC.

US Intelligence says 35 PLA dead, which should be the closest to the real number.


Pity that your Govt. won't even give it's soldiers who died on a battlefield, a proper ceremonial farewell. Such a shame. The difference between a propagandist CCP driven country and a democratic country is night and day.
 
5 injured? Well, well..so this is the level of misinformation that the CCP is spreading within China.

16 Chinese bodies were handed over by the IA to the PLA after the melee ended, as per official IA reports. Plus many were killed on the PLA side of the LAC.

US Intelligence says 35 PLA dead, which should be the closest to the real number.


Pity that your Govt. won't even give it's soldiers who died on a battlefield, a proper ceremonial farewell. Such a shame. The difference between a propagandist CCP driven country and a democratic country is night and day.
16 bodies according to who? Indian media? The same media said 5 to 20 to 35 to 40 to 100 Chinese died. Your source is an ambiguous unknown Usnews, wtf. Who calls themselves Usnews and becomes reliable, its like creating a sure called Chinanews and then claiming shit.

Chinese officially denied 40 soldiers died, that's your VK Singh figure. Lol. He said there must have been at least 40 dead, plucked out from his nostrils.

Where is the official IA report which says 16 were captured? Until today India officially denies any captured soldiers. A month or 2 ago, you guys were laughing when ajai Shukla claimed we intruded. GOI was saying all is good and Modi until today claims no territory lost and we didn't cross the LAC. Well of course we just took back our land, not Indian to begin with... Lolol
 
16 bodies according to who? Indian media? The same media said 5 to 20 to 35 to 40 to 100 Chinese died. Your source is an ambiguous unknown Usnews, wtf. Who calls themselves Usnews and becomes reliable, its like creating a sure called Chinanews and then claiming shit.

Chinese officially denied 40 soldiers died, that's your VK Singh figure. Lol. He said there must have been at least 40 dead, plucked out from his nostrils.

Where is the official IA report which says 16 were captured? Until today India officially denies any captured soldiers. A month or 2 ago, you guys were laughing when ajai Shukla claimed we intruded. GOI was saying all is good and Modi until today claims no territory lost and we didn't cross the LAC. Well of course we just took back our land, not Indian to begin with... Lolol

The problem with China and it's CCP controlled media will always remain that they will never allow anything to be published that they believe spoils China's image. The world is suffering the results of that, thanks to the lies that China told the world after the Covid-19 virus was detected.

Only Chinese and Pakistanis will believe the BS that Chinese state media peddles. In democracies, bodies have to be accounted for, unlike in a country like China where valiant soldiers that lost their lives in a battle are just made to disappear. Where will their families even go to raise a voice?

It's not as if the Indian soldiers dragged every Chinese body to their side and then handed them over. Many Chinese soldiers would've perished on their side itself on that night.

The thing with China is - you can fool yourselves believing your CCP narrative, but the rest of the world won't. NO ONE outside China trusts China's CCP lies anymore.

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India Today TV has learnt that the tactical debrief on the ground -- a kind of First Information Report on the incident -- records 16 Chinese Army bodies handed back to the Chinese side after brawl No.3, including 5 officers. The debrief report does not specify if the Chinese Commanding Officer of the unit was among these five.

The 16 were Chinese Army men confirmed dead on the battlefield. It is speculated that many more of the injured Chinese -- as with the 17 Indian men who perished the following day -- may have died of their injuries later, though there remains no categorical confirmation of this, nor is there likely to be.

As for calling US News ambiguous and unknown, well it's a widely read and respected news outlet in the US. A media outlet that isn't saying what the US Govt. wants it to say. You must be used to only Global Times which is well known as the CCP's propaganda mouthpiece.

That's what Communism does- the truth is ALWAYS hidden, if they feel that it gives a bad impression of the State, the Party, etc. Some day perhaps, the Chinese people will emerge from this backward thinking Party's hold and emerge into a world where the truth isn't constantly tinkered with or completely hidden.

This is what happens when a Communist Party controls ALL INFORMATION.

I honestly feel bad for the Chinese soldiers who died. They fought because orders were given, some died. The least a Govt. should do is to honor their death. That builds the morale of the fighting force. Hiding casualty figures and spreading lies will only serve to demoralize Chinese troops that know what really happened.

Once again, US intelligence confirms that 35 PLA soldiers died in the violence.

US Intelligence Source- China ordered attack on Indian troops in Galwan River Valley

A senior Chinese general authorized his forces to attack Indian troops in the Galwan River valley last week, resulting in a brutal skirmish that killed dozens and dramatically escalated tensions between the two Asian powerhouses, according to a U.S. intelligence assessment.

Gen. Zhao Zongqi, head of the Western Theater Command and among the few combat veterans still serving in the People's Liberation Army, approved the operation along the contested border region of northern India and southwestern China, a source familiar with the assessment says on the condition of anonymity. Zhao, who has overseen prior standoffs with India, has previously expressed concerns that China must not appear weak to avoid exploitation by the United States and its allies, including in New Delhi, the source says, and saw the faceoff last week as a way to "teach India a lesson."

The assessment contradicts China's subsequent assertions about what happened last week. And it indicates the deadly and contentious incident – in which at least 20 Indian and 35 Chinese troops died, and reportedly a handful on each side were captured and subsequently released – was not the result of a tense circumstance that spiraled out of control, as has happened before, but rather a purposeful decision by Beijing to send a message of strength to India.
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Analysts say it's clear the incident did not pan out as China intended, not in the least because its state media outlets have all but erased the incident from their pages in the week since it took place. The U.S. believes Zhao, the Chinese general who commanded the forces involved, held a memorial service for the PLA soldiers who died in the incident – an occasion that would normally attract some form of state-sponsored publicity. Instead, Chinese censors have since cracked down on social media posts about the incident, including ones that mention "defeat" and "humiliation" when describing the dead or injured Chinese troops.
 
16 bodies according to who? Indian media? The same media said 5 to 20 to 35 to 40 to 100 Chinese died. Your source is an ambiguous unknown Usnews, wtf. Who calls themselves Usnews and becomes reliable, its like creating a sure called Chinanews and then claiming shit.

Chinese officially denied 40 soldiers died, that's your VK Singh figure. Lol. He said there must have been at least 40 dead, plucked out from his nostrils.

Where is the official IA report which says 16 were captured? Until today India officially denies any captured soldiers. A month or 2 ago, you guys were laughing when ajai Shukla claimed we intruded. GOI was saying all is good and Modi until today claims no territory lost and we didn't cross the LAC. Well of course we just took back our land, not Indian to begin with... Lolol
Even if 1 solider died... He deserves the respect....
Why don't you ask your communist government to come clean on it.... Oh... I forgot... You can't otherwise you will meet the same fate of those journalist who tried to expose China virus
 
Even if 1 solider died... He deserves the respect....
Why don't you ask your communist government to come clean on it.... Oh... I forgot... You can't otherwise you will meet the same fate of those journalist who tried to expose China virus
Well that Dr was given respect
eventhough censored by local officials earlier. The central gov punished the local officials and reinstated him. He died while serving in a hospital. So how is the virus going on in India?

All soldiers deserve respect, but how to you want us to pay respects to when none died? 17 Indians died while fleeing by jumping into the river. Hypothermia
 
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Well that Dr was given respect
eventhough censored by local officials earlier. The central gov punished the local officials and reinstated him. He died while serving in a hospital. So how is the virus going on in India?

All soldiers deserve respect, but how to you want us to pay respects to when none died? 17 Indians died while fleeing by jumping into the river. Hypothermia
Ya... No one died from your side... Has one ever??? World knows how china suppress information... Ask your government to atleast release the names of injured soldiers.... Or you think no one was injured also...
And I was not talking about the doctor you killed... Many common people have disappeared when trying to expose Chinese virus....
And yes, whole world is having a bad time facing it because apparently the Chinese virus is the only made in china thing that is lasting long...
 
Ya... No one died from your side... Has one ever??? World knows how china suppress information... Ask your government to atleast release the names of injured soldiers.... Or you think no one was injured also...
And I was not talking about the doctor you killed... Many common people have disappeared when trying to expose Chinese virus....
And yes, whole world is having a bad time facing it because apparently the Chinese virus is the only made in china thing that is lasting long...
I don't know mate, that's the unofficial version might be some dead might be none. What I am sure is this from. Offciiaal responses:

1) 20 Indians died
2) Chinese denied capturing 10 Indians PRESENTLY after alleged prisoner release..
3) India government said all accounted for after alleged Chinese prisoner release.
4) China denied 40 dead after VK Singh claim there 'must' have been at least 40 dead.
 
I don't know mate, that's the unofficial version might be some dead might be none. What I am sure is this from. Offciiaal responses:

1) 20 Indians died
2) Chinese denied capturing 10 Indians PRESENTLY after alleged prisoner release..
3) India government said all accounted for after alleged Chinese prisoner release.
4) China denied 40 dead after VK Singh claim there 'must' have been at least 40 dead.


The world will take USA news over state controlled China news any day any moment
Everybody knows that.
China north Korea erc have zero credibility in the West were we live
Lies fabrication of truth
It's communism dictatorship state control
Nobody wants that
 
5 IAF Rafales to land in India on July 27. Meteor and SCALP ALCMs have already started arriving in India. Article mentions 6 were targeted, but now it is confirmed by Livefist that 5 will come in the first batch.

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When the first Indian Air Force Rafale jets land in Ambala on July 27, their weaponry will have already been delivered and stored, ready for operations with the inaugural squadron, ‘Golden Arrows’. Livefist can confirm that key weapon stocks, including the SCALP cruise missile and Meteor beyond visual air to air missile, have already begun arriving in consignments, with the first lot to be completed by the first week of July.

At least six Rafales will take off from Istres, France and make a single stopover at the UAE’s Al Dhafra air force base near Abu Dhabi. The jets, to be ferried by Indian pilots, will be accompanied by a French Air Force tanker, possible one of the two new A330 MRTT tankers. While the initial plan was to deliver four Rafales, Livefist can confirm that the IAF and Dassault Aviation are working to ensure at least six airframes arrive in one go, with the possibility of that number increasing by a couple of airframes.

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