Dassault Rafale, tender | News & Discussions [Thread 2]

[Rafale+Meteor+Spectra]

Global 5000 is an ISR aircraft. If you claim otherwise show me an article about its equipment as I couldn't find one.

Regarding PL 15 we will see when the time comes.

Indian Global 5000 are fitted with El-3001MCG (improved version of El 3001) which has COMJAM capabilities.

Not really, longer range means more time for decoys and electronic counter measures

Meteor is immune against any decoys and ECMs.

Besides, the AMRAAM is tested against full scale aerial highly maneuverable targets such as the QF-16 (remotely piloted F-16's).

AMRAAM showed its wekaness and ineptness on Feb 27 when a Sukhoi just 60km away was able to evade them using simple evasive manuevers

 

[Haris Ali2140]

Indian Global 5000 are fitted with El-3001MCG (improved version of El 3001) which has COMJAM capabilities.


Meteor is immune against any decoys and ECMs.


AMRAAM showed its wekaness and ineptness on Feb 27 when a Sukhoi just 60km away was able to evade them using simple evasive manuevers

 

[Rafale+Meteor+Spectra]

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That old 3001 version not the vustom made MCG version for India which why you will spot 3 additional antennas on ARC G5Ks.

 

[Haris Ali2140]

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Give me specs of the system. Post the link in my profile.

 

[BON PLAN]

AMRAAM showed its wekaness and ineptness on Feb 27 when a Sukhoi just 60km away was able to evade them using simple evasive manuevers

It was far far away it's NEZ. A 5G moving target would have avoid it !

Meteor is immune against any decoys and ECMs.

not sure at 100% ! as any electronic system.

 

[dbc]

AMRAAM showed its wekaness and ineptness on Feb 27 when a Sukhoi just 60km away was able to evade them using simple evasive manuevers

Oh no! better call Modi he is ordering 100's of AMRAAMs for billions of dollars to protect his a$$ in New Delhi.

NO.
During the first international training of the Mirage 2000-5, every opponents were virtualy destroyed because the radar never changed of wave form, freq and so one between search phase and firing phase, so the opponent were unable to detect they were engaged. It's now classical.

ah!! so the French Radar is magical and does not conform to the laws of physics. Got it!! Thanks

 

[Rafale+Meteor+Spectra]

Oh no! better call Modi he is ordering 100's of AMRAAMs for billions of dollars to protect his a$$ in New Delhi.

Modi has no choice, he needs to please Trump.

 

[dbc]

Modi has no choice, he needs to please Trump.

You can buy something else, I don't think Trump insist on AMRAAM.

 

[BON PLAN]

ah!! so the French Radar is magical and does not conform to the laws of physics. Got it!! Thanks

It's not any kind of physic law. It's just your brain limitation.

Modi has no choice, he needs to please Trump.

LOL.
You already purchased P8I, helo, next will be drones. More than enough to please Donald the fool.

 

[BON PLAN]

thanks Picdelamirandoil

 

[The Eagle]

Modi has no choice, he needs to please Trump.

I will request to stop such laughable analogy. Pleasing Trump? so either you agree that Modi/India has to please Trump unlike anyone else. By the way, no one cares about the price when it comes to please Trump like person but the story goes beyond that ...

https://defence.pk/pdf/threads/indi...-of-american-missile-shield-for-delhi.653588/

No professional will ever agree with such pleasing diplomacy by purchasing such class of weapons. Just because AMRAAM-120C5 been wrecking havoc on 27th Feb, doesn't mean you will have to create one story after another to downplay the same. In-fact the missile did prove its lethality since lobbed by PAF against Asian Raptor that ran for life while one got the taste of it which eventually resulted in IAF waving exploded piece during a presser and concealed the whole truth. That presser only emphasized on use of F-16. Furthermore, eye witness from Indian Occupied Kashmir saw how IAF fighter got a hit and crashed in Sher Makni Area of IoK. Internet denial can somehow help to avoid such pressure and to divert from the facts but since you referred AMRAAM; it's about time to consider the facts & reality as well.

Regards,

https://twitter.com/x/status/1184417197457887232

You can buy something else, I don't think Trump insist on AMRAAM.

India insisted and now complaining of higher prices.

 

[Haris Ali2140]

I will request to stop such laughable analogy. Pleasing Trump? so either you agree that Modi/India has to please Trump unlike anyone else. By the way, no one cares about the price when it comes to please Trump like person but the story goes beyond that ...

https://defence.pk/pdf/threads/indi...-of-american-missile-shield-for-delhi.653588/

No professional will ever agree with such pleasing diplomacy by purchasing such class of weapons. Just because AMRAAM-120C5 been wrecking havoc on 27th Feb, doesn't mean you will have to create one story after another to downplay the same. In-fact the missile did prove its lethality since lobbed by PAF against Asian Raptor that ran for life while one got the taste of it which eventually resulted in IAF waving exploded piece during a presser and concealed the whole truth. That presser only emphasized on use of F-16. Furthermore, eye witness from Indian Occupied Kashmir saw how IAF fighter got a hit and crashed in Sher Makni Area of IoK. Internet denial can somehow help to avoid such pressure and to divert from the facts but since you referred AMRAAM; it's about time to consider the facts & reality as well.

Regards,

https://twitter.com/x/status/1184417197457887232

BTW Trump is not pleased: "We are not treated well". He wants the Indian economy to open up. Let's how much he succeeds. He did got a good deal with China.

 

[dbc]

It's not any kind of physic law. It's just your brain limitation.

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I talked about PRF, you said wave form and frequency it is clear you don’t understand radar concepts or the principles of pulse Doppler Radar.Sorry i don’t have time to explain it to you.

And no the emissions of the Mirage 2000-5 radar is not undetectable as you claim.

 

[The Eagle]

BTW Trump is not pleased: "We are treated well". He wants the Indian economy to open up. Let's how much he succeeds. He did got a good deal with China.

I will never underestimate the capabilities of Rafale but just that it is in hands of my adversary; doesn't mean I start to troll around & call it nothing special which ultimately makes a joke of me for the serious brains. However, how its countered or how it may fare against us, can be the area of interest.

Rafale is a potent and capable fighter of its class but there is no end of anything. Every weapon & platform have their own limitations as well. So the potency of Rafale doesn't make it invincible at all and opponents will exploit the weaknesses. Let's just see how it performs in real battle in future since there will be heavy electronic warfare into play.

 

[BON PLAN]

I talked about PRF, you said wave form and frequency it is clear you don’t understand radar concepts or the principles of pulse Doppler Radar.Sorry i don’t have time to explain it to you.

And no the emissions of the Mirage 2000-5 radar is not undetectable as you claim.

I never said the RDY emission was undetectable. I said that the radar don't change of frequency, wave form, power...and so one before, during and after a MICA (EM or IR) fire. It's why the opponent never imagine it is fired until the missile is near.