Dar warns India not to cast an evil eye on Pakistan's economic prosperity!

[Norwegian]

Who said you are stupid?

Inferiority complex, perhaps?

 

[illusion8]

Inferiority complex, perhaps?

Teenagers

 

[WAJsal]

Let's try to have a conversation without throwing jabs at each other. You have no idea of my educational background, neither do I know yours.

Cheap shot, accept my mistake.

Gilgit was taken on lease from the Maharaja of Jammu & Kashmir by the British Crown for a period of 60 years, and handed back to the Maharaja on August 1, 1947, placed under the command of Brig. Ghansara Singh.

Note: British still had a lot of time left, according to that argument they had. Instead they handed it over to Mahraja. What they should have done was to hold a referendum in Kashmir and GB. If they did you know and i know who Kashmiris would have chosen, being a Muslim majority state and pro-Pakistan.

The 24-25 year old Major Brown acted on his own to lead a coup against the legitimate government there.

On his own? he had a whole force behind him. GB scouts, and many other people were also playing a leading role. Note: Mahraja hated the force and wanted to get rid of it too, at some point. Thus the reason for the growing pro-Pakistan movement in Chilas and different areas.

Acting of his own will without following the chain of command does not give any legitimacy to Major Brown's actions. That's what I have meant in my previous post.

On his own? his will, again incorrect. Many leading figures were too backing him. Plus he had noticed that Maharajaha was going to acceded with India, realizing that GB has majority Muslim population and wanted to join Pakistan. Maharajaha was going to go against the peoples wishes.

Militia, backed by elements within the Pakistani army had already attacked the state of Jammu & Kashmir on 22nd October, 1947 and were happy to lay a claim on Gilgit.

I think you are misinterpreting a few things. Militia, no. They were local forces, under maharaja's command.
Read this: How Gilgit-Baltistan got liberated .

 

[nana41]

He could always use red eye lenses instead

They can't. Its part of their job description sadly..

This Munshee Ishaq Dar(c.accountant) should concentrate on his job of helping clients cheat and dodge nation with taxes and not interfere into military affair with his untimely and uncalled for outburst, before his pigeon head colleague Khawaja Asif start delivering sermons on the situation of poor economy and falling value of the Rupee.

 

[Indus Pakistan]

@Norwegian
@levina

You guy's need to get a life and stop discussing me.

@WAJsal Your one of the most impressive members on this forum. When I found out your age I was surprised. Keep up the good work.

 

[WAJsal]

@Norwegian
@levina

You guy's need to get a life and stop discussing me.

@WAJsal Your one of the most impressive members on this forum. When I found out your age I was surprised. Keep up the good work.

It's always nice to get appreciated now and then, thank you. Quite upset with you and some other member's for not reading most of my very informative threads. Just kidding, have a nice day. To be honest you and some other members are very impressive too. Get to learn a lot from you guy's.

 

[Indus Pakistan]

And I got banned not because there was anything wrong with what I said. All the Paks congregate in forums like these where they can tap their own backs. I don't do that. I go out and take on the mass negative hysteria about Pakistan most of it spat out by Indian's or closet Indian's.

You go on any media in the world Pakistan is the favourite punching bag. This also is reflected in real life. I don't let this go by. I oppose it. Unfortunately very, very few Pakistani's defend their country. So this gives the Indian's free reign to spout out the most insane stuff about Pakistan. The Westerners's already fed on daily dose of bad news about Pakistan lap all this anti Pakistan stuff from Indian's like sharks.

When I see this feeding frenzy going on with Pakistan being torn apart yes I made robust defence of our country. However if I am the only Pak member and there are dozens of Indian members I stuck as the guy who was continously clashing with people [Indians]. Result I got banned.

Any Pakistani's here why not register there and dare say anything contrary to what the Indian's have etched as their "History" whatch what will happen. You will also get to see what Indian's really think about Pakistan. There is nothing but hate and contempt for Pakistan.

Why not ask @Bamxa ?

@RescueRanger People like you should be there giving Pakistan side of the story. I don't agree with you all the time I know you will oppose all the negative hype against Pakistan,

@WAJsal Why don't you also register there and put forth G-B history there. Also learn how Indian's react. PDF is like your under your own roof. Differant story outside.

 

[Norwegian]

Any Pakistani's here why not register there and dare say anything contrary to what the Indian's have etched as their "History" whatch what will happen. You will also get to see what Indian's really think about Pakistan. There is nothing but hate and contempt for Pakistan.

It really doesn't matter what Indians think of Pakistan. Let them hate us all they can, it doesn't change anything. Israel is hated around the globe except a few countries, yet it doesn't stop that country from progressing. It's only through real life improvement that views about a country change internationally. Not through propaganda and rhetorics.

 

[WAJsal]

And I got banned not because there was anything wrong with what I said. All the Paks congregate in forums like these where they can tap their own backs. I don't do that. I go out and take on the mass negative hysteria about Pakistan most of it spat out by Indian's or closet Indian's.

You go on any media in the world Pakistan is the favourite punching bag. This also is reflected in real life. I don't let this go by. I oppose it. Unfortunately very, very few Pakistani's defend their country. So this gives the Indian's free reign to spout out the most insane stuff about Pakistan. The Westerners's already fed on daily dose of bad news about Pakistan lap all this anti Pakistan stuff from Indian's like sharks.

When I see this feeding frenzy going on with Pakistan being torn apart yes I made robust dfence of our country. However if I am the only Pak member and there are dozens of Indian members I will soon stick out as being continously clashing with people. Result I got banned.

Any Pakistani's here why not register there and dare say anything contrary to what the Indian's have etched as their "History" whatch what will happen. You will also get to see what Indian's really think about Pakistan. There is nothing but hate and contempt for Pakistan.

Why not ask @Bamxa ?

I used to be no different, through time i learned there was no point in engaging these poor souls. You are literally wasting your time on them. Report them, rate them and move on. Debating with them is no different than hitting your head on the wall, constantly(looking at the type of argument they come up with). Who cares what they think.

@WAJsal Why don't you also register there and put forth G-B history there. Also learn how Indian's react. PDF is like your under your own roof. Differant story outside.

register where? i have already posted GB's history on History forum.
How Gilgit-Baltistan got liberated .
How Gilgit-Baltistan got liberated . | Page 6

 

[Norwegian]

register where? i have already posted GB's history on History forum.

He is talking about that history forum where he was banned.

 

[Indus Pakistan]

It really doesn't matter what Indians think of Pakistan. Let them hate us all they can, it doesn't change anything. Israel is hated around the globe except a few countries, yet it doesn't stop that country from progressing. It's only through real life improvement that views about a country change internationally. Not through propaganda and rhetorics.

Sonny it does. Who told you Isreal is hated? You are good lad but you need to get out of that "Norge" thing you wrapped up yourself in and see the real world. Goodwill opens doors. Negative image shuts doors. Why do companies have PR deparments for? Why do companies advertise for? Soft power in today's world is far more important than military power.

You and I might know that India has more starving people than Sub Saharah Africa and more shatting on the streets than the entire world but all that does not matter. Mention India and they think all positive because of Indian movies and carefully constructed image abroad.

Perception is reality. Reality is rarely perception.

 

[Kambojaric]

And I got banned not because there was anything wrong with what I said. All the Paks congregate in forums like these where they can tap their own backs. I don't do that. I go out and take on the mass negative hysteria about Pakistan most of it spat out by Indian's or closet Indian's.

You go on any media in the world Pakistan is the favourite punching bag. This also is reflected in real life. I don't let this go by. I oppose it. Unfortunately very, very few Pakistani's defend their country. So this gives the Indian's free reign to spout out the most insane stuff about Pakistan. The Westerners's already fed on daily dose of bad news about Pakistan lap all this anti Pakistan stuff from Indian's like sharks.

When I see this feeding frenzy going on with Pakistan being torn apart yes I made robust defence of our country. However if I am the only Pak member and there are dozens of Indian members I stuck as the guy who was continously clashing with people [Indians]. Result I got banned.

Any Pakistani's here why not register there and dare say anything contrary to what the Indian's have etched as their "History" whatch what will happen. You will also get to see what Indian's really think about Pakistan. There is nothing but hate and contempt for Pakistan.

Why not ask @Bamxa ?

@RescueRanger People like you should be there giving Pakistan side of the story. I don't agree with you all the time I know you will oppose all the negative hype against Pakistan,

@WAJsal Why don't you also register there and put forth G-B history there. Also learn how Indian's react. PDF is like your under your own roof. Differant story outside.

I defended Pakistan vehemently on that forum for many years but unlike pdf every post I make there I research throughly as my post will be a representation of Pakistan. That however takes time and having been the sole Pakistani there up against at least 4 to 5 Indians on a regular basis takes a lot of time. A luxury I dont have much of at the moment unfortunately. It would be great though if some of the more knowledgeable Pakistanis could expand into international forums to put forward Pakistans views. Even having two or three Pakistanis around can have a big impact on foreigners views of our country.

 

[OrionHunter]

No, its not part of Azad Kashmir.

Check out the red line. GB was part of the former princely state of Jammu and Kashmir.

 

[VCheng]

Perception is reality. Reality is rarely perception.

That works, but only up to a point. Substance beats hype in the long run, always.

 

[Levina]

And I got banned not because there was anything wrong with what I said. All the Paks congregate in forums like these where they can tap their own backs. I don't do that. I go out and take on the mass negative hysteria about Pakistan most of it spat out by Indian's or closet Indian's.

You go on any media in the world Pakistan is the favourite punching bag. This also is reflected in real life. I don't let this go by. I oppose it. Unfortunately very, very few Pakistani's defend their country. So this gives the Indian's free reign to spout out the most insane stuff about Pakistan. The Westerners's already fed on daily dose of bad news about Pakistan lap all this anti Pakistan stuff from Indian's like sharks.

When I see this feeding frenzy going on with Pakistan being torn apart yes I made robust defence of our country. However if I am the only Pak member and there are dozens of Indian members I stuck as the guy who was continously clashing with people [Indians]. Result I got banned.

Any Pakistani's here why not register there and dare say anything contrary to what the Indian's have etched as their "History" whatch what will happen. You will also get to see what Indian's really think about Pakistan. There is nothing but hate and contempt for Pakistan.

Why not ask @Bamxa ?

@RescueRanger People like you should be there giving Pakistan side of the story. I don't agree with you all the time I know you will oppose all the negative hype against Pakistan,

@WAJsal Why don't you also register there and put forth G-B history there. Also learn how Indian's react. PDF is like your under your own roof. Differant story outside.

The problem is you get provoked easily.

India gets a lot of negative media coverage, but we have managed to stop it, we have made them sit up and take notice.

I hope your country too can come out the quagmire that it is in right now.

Ciao