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Faraaz being a terrorist was a theory that popped up on social media. Let the authorities investigate, even though a photo of his dead body has emerged. It would be unlikely that he was among them.

Reminds me of a saying.

There are three types of reality:
1) Somebody else's reality
2) Your reality
3) The truth.

Anyone fashioning information according to his/her liking is doomed to repeat the mistakes of yesterday.

I find it insensitive to say the least to use this tragedy to score brownie points. I've seen Bangladeshis on Facebook praising Faraaz's sacrifice, and so are local and international media. Does that make them terrorists? That is how truly disconnected he really is from the realities Bangladeshis face.

I am not aware of such theories, all we have is praise for that guy in India. I will be shocked if it comes otherwise.

But calling him a terrorist, at this stage, as you have said is far from reality and shows how the person want the news to come. I can see how Faraaz news are making these terrorist and sympathizer a bit tense and worried.

 

[Levina]

I see a few things happening (predicting and not trying to align myself politically to anyone),

• Tight control and intelligence/reporting on radicalisation activities in Madrassahs, training schools and even universities especially intelligence on 'covert' activity.(Most of the students that 'went missing' may have attended a terrorist training camp in Hill tracts area for a few months).
• Private Madrassah funding from Arab countries will come under heavy scrutiny
• Religious-aligned schools like Manarat, Ideal School and those put up by Middle Eastern sources may see their student numbers gradually decreased as per govt. action and effort.
• Govt. funding of madrassahs may see revision of policy and reduction of funding.
• Local monitoring of social media 'chatter' a la Homeland Security in US will increase. You can type a few 'keywords' and police/RAB will show up at your door.
• 'Profiling' for religious-affiliated activity will get more intense.
• Religious parties will see their funding sources such as businesses and newspapers being slowly starved.
• Although not directly involved with preventing radicalisation - Police/RAB will strengthen their SWAT teams, tactics, training and equipment to tackle radical attacks. They had to bring in army para-commandos where local RAB SWAT team could have easily handled a hostage situation. I am baffled why the RAB SWAT team was not used. SOP for coordination and triage during a crisis like this will see radical changes.

You sound sane.

The guy named Farhaan Hossain who refused to leave his friends on mercy of terrorists is being called a terrorist by this low life (sorry for name calling).

Such posters along with asad71 are highest degree of terrorist sympathisers and perhaps using PDF as a breeding ground for people with their mentality.

@Oscar @WebMaster @waz @Arsalan

@BDforever @M_Saint @Loki @bongbang @Roybot @Levina @Joe Shearer

And then there are a few like him........

You reap what you sow.
I hope this guy understands that the fire he's kindling now will consume his own house first.
The good news is,this thread has proved not many in his country support what he has said.


RIP Faraaz Hossain.

 

[Zabaniyah]

All potent steps to stop the radicalisation but it misses at tackling other causes of the problem. What needs to be done is re access the reasons for the sudden upsurge, it is not like there was a sudden button pressed and radicals started jumping out of the water. What are the triggers which started this? Isis has been going strong for some time now, before that there was a lot of militancy in the world which Bangladesh was not affected by.
One needs to step back and re access policies which are driving the youth to these acts. Till triggers are removed, no amount of monitoring will stop more radicalisation, the best it will do and this is the most optimistic view, stop the radicals before they cause any mass casualties...
One needs to address root causes, which also stopping radicalisation of the youth. Just doing one without the other will leave loopholes which will end up in lose of human life, which is both heart breaking and too be severely condemned by all.
Hoping that no more innocent people die and Bangladesh matures.

Before 2013, there were no social divisions that we see today. It is also worth noting that there is a zero-sum game being played within the politics of Bangladesh at the moment.

During the Shahbagh movement, by the demanding execution of Kader Mollah (along with a bunch of other conditions), there were some within that crowd that insulted Islam and the Prophet Muhammad. The atheist, Ahmed Rajib Haider (aka Thaba Baba) was murdered at the time. It was from there that these secret killings started to expand into a more broad target list.

Rajib was praised by Sheikh Hasina and given an Islamic funeral despite his apostasy. This enraged the Islamist community - Namely Hefajat-e-Islam which was a little known ultra-conservative group. Though, they were largely not political in the past. They did come up with their own 'Shahbagh', only to be violently suppressed by the security forces. Now that is bound to create a lot anger.

Ironically, Sheikh Hasina now urges people not to hurt people's religious feelings. Additionally, the leader of Gonojagoron Mancha, Imran H Sarkar had an apologetic attitude in regards to the atheists who were continuing their online activities - A move I believe was both dangerous and counter-productive given the country's mediocre law & order and political situation.

Even more so, our prime minister blamed these secret killings on the opposition. She treated the horror at Gulshan the same way. Why she does this? No one knows.

So like I said, these social divisions in Bangladesh weren't present before 2013. The Arab Spring and the resultant events are an eerie reminder.

 

[Arsalan]

I did and action has been taken on it.

Good for everyone

 

[Pride]

Where should NDTV be reported for slandering Pakistan by associating a false statement to adviser to Bengali PM that Pakistan was behind Dhaka attack?

I & B ministry of India. We are also having trouble with "Presstitute" NDTV.

1.India is well aware that any fire she starts in BD shall also burn her. Therefore, following Katulya-niti, she proposes to Balkanize us as she hopes to do with Pakistan. CHT of BD would be made into the autonomous Jummaland in the first phase. Sylhet will be reunited with Assam. In the SW she plans setting up a Hindu autonomous state called Bongobhumi.
2. However, physical movements for these must not start before securing the Himalayan border.To that end Bhutan needs to be annexed. Tourists coming back from Thimpu speak of a quiet movement going on to scrap the monarchy and formally join India. This should happen in 2018/19.

Also, Please share timelines of Nepal joining India. And next, Myanmar please? you seem so intelligent about it.

 

[Al-zakir]

It is teaching. But some cannot be taught. You are an example.

Go and teach somewhere else. We are not interested learning from Indian. Thank you

 

[Pride]

Go and teach somewhere else. We are not interested learning from Indian. Thank you

You are right.. "your kind" of people already started learning from ISIS which according to "your kind" are more intelligent and knowledgeable.

 

[Joe Shearer]

Go and teach somewhere else. We are not interested learning from Indian. Thank you

The vultures were gathering, and the rest of us were puzzled not to see you present. Now all is well. And everyone already knows that you are not interested in learning and never were, so don't waste your precious time telling the world what it already knows.

 

[idune]

The vultures were gathering, and the rest of us were puzzled not to see you present. Now all is well. And everyone already knows that you are not interested in learning and never were, so don't waste your precious time telling the world what it already knows.

Looks like you are not learning to understand what "go away" means. No one here interested in your lecture.

 

[Joe Shearer]

Looks like you are not learning to understand what "go away" means. No one here interested in your lecture.

From your English, you yourself are among those who need lessons first.

 

[T-Rex]

You are right.. "your kind" of people already started learning from ISIS which according to "your kind" are more intelligent and knowledgeable.

But you are the ones who are supplying IED explosives to the ISIS terrorists! The suckular Baath Party members in Syria and Iraq provide the training and the sons of the BAL leaders in BD are found to be the students.

 

[Zabaniyah]

I see a few things happening (predicting and not trying to align myself politically to anyone),

• Tight control and intelligence/reporting on radicalisation activities in Madrassahs, training schools and even universities especially intelligence on 'covert' activity.(Most of the students that 'went missing' may have attended a terrorist training camp in Hill tracts area for a few months).
• Private Madrassah funding from Arab countries will come under heavy scrutiny
• Religious-aligned schools like Manarat, Ideal School and those put up by Middle Eastern sources may see their student numbers gradually decreased as per govt. action and effort.
• Govt. funding of madrassahs may see revision of policy and reduction of funding.
• Local monitoring of social media 'chatter' a la Homeland Security in US will increase. You can type a few 'keywords' and police/RAB will show up at your door.
• 'Profiling' for religious-affiliated activity will get more intense.
• Religious parties will see their funding sources such as businesses and newspapers being slowly starved.
• Although not directly involved with preventing radicalisation - Police/RAB will strengthen their SWAT teams, tactics, training and equipment to tackle radical attacks. They had to bring in army para-commandos where local RAB SWAT team could have easily handled a hostage situation. I am baffled why the RAB SWAT team was not used. SOP for coordination and triage during a crisis like this will see radical changes.

The NSA has something called PRISM which are sufficient to do the first seven tasks.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PRISM_(surveillance_program)

But unfortunately, a complete revamp of Bangladesh Police would be required for those to happen. It is very much in a pitiful, and may I say a dangerous state.

And if not known here already, the police accidentally shot one of the hostages.
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/w...shooting-hostage-dead-mistaking-a7120326.html

They even confirmed him to be one of the terrorists after the raid. It really says something about their overall performance.

They have the equipment. They have the resources. But where is their performance?

 

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But you are the ones who are supplying IED explosives to the ISIS terrorists! The suckular Baath Party members in Syria and Iraq provide the training and the sons of the BAL leaders in BD are found to be the students.

Can you show the purchase order?

Indian companies supply equipment to Turkey and other countries. If turkey pass it on to ISIS, why should India be questioned?

Please question your ummah brother. Thank you !!

 

[Bilal9]

The NSA has something called PRISM which are sufficient to do the first seven tasks.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PRISM_(surveillance_program)

But unfortunately, a complete revamp of Bangladesh Police would be required for those to happen. It is very much in a pitiful, and may I say a dangerous state.

...... But where is their performance?

I'd say it boils down to the type of (ahem) 'talent' they attract.

It's of course not the best of the best, even considering the graft you can cash in.

That said - it still is somewhat better than the police of a lot of the neighboring countries (especially RAB) - which varies.

 

[extra terrestrial]

The NSA has something called PRISM which are sufficient to do the first seven tasks.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PRISM_(surveillance_program)

But unfortunately, a complete revamp of Bangladesh Police would be required for those to happen. It is very much in a pitiful, and may I say a dangerous state.

And if not known here already, the police accidentally shot one of the hostages.
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/w...shooting-hostage-dead-mistaking-a7120326.html

They even confirmed him to be one of the terrorists after the raid. It really says something about their overall performance.

They have the equipment. They have the resources. But where is their performance?

I'd say it boils down to the type of (ahem) 'talent' they attract.

It's of course not the best of the best, even considering the graft you can cash in.

That said - it still is somewhat better than the police of a lot of the neighboring countries (especially RAB) - which varies.

I guess such surveillance system already exists in Bangladesh, albeit, in a lesser amount. There have been some purchases of advanced surveillance systems from Italy (with Israeli design) by RAB in recent years. Also, there have been major hacking fests and workshops sponsored by the government for possible recruitment into RAB's Cyber Cell. Besides, BTRC seems to have reached a deal with Facebook; DMP now claims that Facebook in Bangladesh is controlled from the BTRC office.

However, all these surveillance activities seem to be directed towards suppressing the opposition parties. End of the day, everything comes down to the willingness of the government. For that, they really need to get rid of their regime insecurity...