Damage report 2012 PAF Saab Erieye Awacs

[Tipu7]

During a seminar discussion with us, ACM Sohail Aman stated that day as the 'darkest day in PAF history'. As per him, PAF lost 75% of its Command & Control capability within one night. The loss of material was massive, so was the loss of morals. Jf17 project may have allowed Pakistan to explore its indigenous capabilities, but it was the restoration of lost/damaged Erieyes which developed the real confidence on home grown skills.

 

[War Historian]

To Senior members,
Sir our Saab2000 and Chinese AWACS are total 11. Can some one tell me how many jets an AWACS can guide effectively. I mean how many fighter jets can share the data with single AWACS at a time in airborne situation. Thanks in advance.

 

[bafxet]

Saab has been made flying worthy. Can somebody tell me whether they have been made it just flying or its capability of 'Airborne Warning and Control' has also been restored in full?

 

[Ultima Thule]

To Senior members,
Sir our Saab2000 and Chinese AWACS are total 11. Can some one tell me how many jets an AWACS can guide effectively. I mean how many fighter jets can share the data with single AWACS at a time in airborne situation. Thanks in advance.

Its a classified information bro no one know but one exception in Wikipedia article of Russian A-50U can control/guides 10 jet at a time

 

[Haris Ali2140]

During a seminar discussion with us, ACM Sohail Aman stated that day as the 'darkest day in PAF history'. As per him, PAF lost 75% of its Command & Control capability within one night and the extent of damage it received was ever worse than all combined losses of wars against India. The loss of material was massive, so was the loss of morals. Jf17 project may has allowed Pakistan to explore its indigenous capabilities, but it was the restoration of lost/damage Erieyes which developed the real confidence on home grown capabilities.

How many Erieyes do we have???

 

[Ultima Thule]

How many Erieyes do we have???

According to Wikipedia we have 7 Erieyes

 

[Cuirassier]

One may not be a conspiracy theory believer, but the TTP attacks on Pakistan's crucial recon and intel assets, which play a massive role in ensuring our combat effectiveness at the conventional level, make it certain that there is certainly more to these militants apart from the 'home-grown' narrative spewed (no foreign hand, independent direction, solely Pak own goal at strategic level).

Unfortunately, when we accuse our dear neighbours of such handling, the international community is reluctant to believe us thanks to our notorious repute of links with militant organizations in the past.

 

[Ultima Thule]

How many Erieyes do we have???

oh sorry we have 6, one destroyed 2 damaged one repaired and back to the service 3 more order recently and inducted in 2017

 

[Aamir Hussain]

Both types of aircraft were playing a stellar role in WoT. That was reason for strike against them. Now if RaW or any other intel agency had a role...well i would not be surprised.

However, the claim that the Orions targeted were the ones modified for Harpoon ALCM launch, then that claim IMHO does not hold water as the missiles were modified and not the planes. US personnel checked the missiles and personnel who were there on the Orion project were there for the P3CUP project.

 

[War Historian]

Its a classified information bro no one know but one exception in Wikipedia article of Russian A-50U can control/guides 10 jet at a time

Thank you Sir,
I was just counting that approximately PAF has more or less 20 squadrons fighter jets. So how many AWACS we must have to guide them in air borne scenario. But i hope after AESA radar update on JFT fleet it will share the burden with AWACS fleet also.
Once again thanks for the good answer.

 

[Ultima Thule]

Thank you Sir,
I was just counting that approximately PAF has more or less 20 squadrons fighter jets. So how many AWACS we must have to guide them in air borne scenario. But i hope after AESA radar update on JFT fleet it will share the burden with AWACS fleet also.
Once again thanks for the good answer.

We have 400-450 jet including trainers, which likely to be used as light attack or scout jet in case of war so if we assume that Erieyes and ZDK-3 can guide 10 jets each than we need 30-40 AWACS to guide most of jets in PAF which impossible countries like Pakistan and remember bro long range ground based radar controllers can also guides/control PAF jets, bro and don't called me sir, call me bro, we are brothers

 

[War Historian]

We have 400-450 jet including trainers, which likely to be used as light attack or scout jet in case of war so if we assume that Erieyes and ZDK-3 can guide 10 jets each than we need 30-40 AWACS to guide most of jets in PAF which impossible countries like Pakistan and remember bro long range ground based radar controllers can also guides/control PAF jets, bro and don't called me sir, call me bro, we are brothers

Thank you brother for detailed answer. After the repair of three damage Saab AWACS PAC confidence must be high and might in near future PAC Kamra look to some AWACS system bought from SAAB and assemble them on air frames here in KAMRA.
It could boost their confidence in self reliance and for future designing innovation.
I always admire the PAF and PAC efforts to tackle the problems and Their cost effective solution who always foil indian plan.
If I am not wrong we already sign MOU with Chinese aero industries for the future commercial and light planes manufacturing in Pakistan. I pray Allah help us all to work hard for our beloved country. And it will rise like a phenix.

 

[Ultima Thule]

Thank you brother for detailed answer. After the repair of three damage Saab AWACS PAC confidence must be high and might in near future PAC Kamra look to some AWACS system bought from SAAB and assemble them on air frames here in KAMRA.
It could boost their confidence in self reliance and for future designing innovation.
I always admire the PAF and PAC efforts to tackle the problems and Their cost effective solution who always foil indian plan.
If I am not wrong we already sign MOU with Chinese aero industries for the future commercial and light planes manufacturing in Pakistan. I pray Allah help us all to work hard for our beloved country. And it will rise like a phenix.

Terrorist attack on PAF base Minhas 1 destroyed completely, 1 repaired and bring back to service and 3rd damaged sustain enough damaged that's right off by PAF, and PAF order 3 new AWACS from SAAB after that and these new were inducted in 2017

 

[War Historian]

Terrorist attack on PAF base Minhas 1 destroyed completely, 1 repaired and bring back to service and 3rd damaged sustain enough damaged that's right off by PAF, and PAF order 3 new AWACS from SAAB after that and these new were inducted in 2017

Did PAF have plan to acquire more AWACS in future?
Because last year skirmish in 27 Feb, it proves very useful system. But in this economic condition we might not able to acquire complete system but we can import them and assemble locally at PAC Kamra to reduce the cost and gaining more experience.

 

[ziaulislam]

You are being irrational.
No terrorist was ever hanged by courts in Pakistan. You are asking for the hanging of on duty military personnel.
The base commander of James was sacked. The sentries who didn't fire any bullets and hid in the bushes, were court martialed. However it is pertinent to mention that at that time Zardari was actively gobbling up 40% of PAF budget and sentries on duty had half a magazine and no spare bullets.

if this is true the army chief should be "hanged"..
for not forcing civilian govt for bullets and minimum required budget..
also the brigd running POF should be "hanged" as well...
they are ready to bring martial law if there personal security or BMW is in trouble but not having bullets??