Dalai Lama to retire from political life

[LaBong]

We think that Mao was a dictator, Deng Xiaoping also is. But CPC is not a dictator.

Does Hu Jintao have term limits ? Yes, 10 Years.
Does China's rights by one person to master it? No, nine people rule the country together. Hu Jintao's State Rights a lot less than Obama.

It's oligarchy, not dictatorship.

 

[Chinese-Dragon]

Nice try to go off topic to save your a**. If you want to discuss Kashmir, you have the entire Kashmir War sub-forum to do so.

Regarding Democracy, first ask the CPC to give you the right to vote, then bat for similar rights of others.

I do vote. I live in Hong Kong.

Since you say that China "stole Tibetan land", and that we should give it back...

Do you think you should give your entire country back?

"India is merely a geographical expression. It is no more a single country than the Equator." - Winston Churchill

And you still haven't explained to me how a "democratic" place like India, refuses to let the Kashmiris vote in a plebiscite? How does that even make sense?

 

[twoplustwoisfour]

I do vote. I live in Hong Kong.

Since you say that China "stole Tibetan land", and that we should give it back...

Do you think you should give your entire country back?

"India is merely a geographical expression. It is no more a single country than the Equator." - Winston Churchill

Again trying to go off-topic?

Sure, we should give our country back to ourselves. How idiotic can you get?

 

[LaBong]

If I was paid 100 bucks every time I read that Winston Churchill remark in this forum, I would have been a millionaire by now.

 

[cross1993]

Nice try to go off topic to save your a**. If you want to discuss Kashmir, you have the entire Kashmir War sub-forum to do so.

Regarding Democracy, first ask the CPC to give you the right to vote, then bat for similar rights of others.

Who defines that: Democracy = The right to vote?

Sir, You have a deep misunderstanding of China, Allow me to explain it for you.

1. Chinese people believe that, Chinese-style Democracy is people-oriented and Prosperous life.
Chinese people believe that the reality and Collectivism, Chinese people believe that prosperous life important than a single vote.
We know Western media hopes that China has a bloody revolution, to terminate the rise of China, but that is impossible.

2. Ordinary Chinese people can become president, but not through the media to get the seat. You have to start from the most junior civil servants, You must through capacity and effort been promoted again and again, So he is definitely not a fool who can be president.
So USA had some good president, for example: Clinton, Bush(old)...and USA also had some bad president, for example(only my opinion): Bush(young), Obama...But the China National policy is very stable. That is the advantage of the Chinese govt.

3. Wall Street can control USA gov through the media.
For example, family planning, state-owned enterprises reform, etc... these policies all can not implemented in the USA. Because selfish media will destroy it all, and USA President also did not dare to do it. But China can do it!

4. Does Hu Jintao have term limits ? Yes, 10 Years.
Does China's rights by one person to master it? No, nine people rule the country together. Hu Jintao's State Rights a lot less than Obama.

5. China will continue to increase democracy politics? Yes, Of course. China's model of democracy will be Nordic. We will continue political reform, never stops.

 

[Chinese-Dragon]

Again trying to go off-topic?

Sure, we should give our country back to ourselves. How idiotic can you get?

India was created by the British, no one was given a "referendum" on it, the locals had no say.

Give everyone back their land. Give the Northeast back to the locals, that would be a good start. Then Kashmir, etc.

Sort out your own numerous insurgencies, before you throw stones in a glass house.

 

[below_freezing]

Nice try to go off topic to save your a**. If you want to discuss Kashmir, you have the entire Kashmir War sub-forum to do so.

Regarding Democracy, first ask the CPC to give you the right to vote, then bat for similar rights of others.

We have the right to vote. People in China not only have the right to vote, they also have the right to eat.

 

[twoplustwoisfour]

We have the right to vote. People in China not only have the right to vote, they also have the right to eat.

But not the right to reproduce.

Anyways, do try to stay on topic once in a while.

 

[tanlixiang28776]

But not the right to reproduce.

Anyways, do try to stay on topic once in a while.

Yes we do. Just not to the point where we have 7 kids each and all of them suffer from malnutrition.

 

[cross1993]

How Chinese people think the Western-style Democracy? We do not trust the Western-style Democracy. If one politicians to accept Western's help, we will abandon him, we will think he is a traitor. For example, Liu Xiaobo, his political life has finished.
Liu Xiaobo received Western aid, so he will service the West interests, not our interest. We will not trust him.

Why is that so? China has a traditional Ruling Ideology, that is "内圣外王".
That is why most Chinese people do not trust the Western. Because the Western is that "内圣外王"! We are too familiar with the practice of the Western. We have 5,000 years to play "内圣外王".

What is "内圣外王"?
make easy, "内圣" is "protect own citizens, defend their interests", "外王" is "unfair treatment of foreign, implementation imperialism."
内圣外王 - 维基百科，自由的百科全书
So Western-style Democracy is only democracy in the Western people. Other countries democratic, have or have not, the decision by the Western's interests.

Therefore, Chinese people will see "Dictatorship" or "Democracy" as the Western to develop rules of the game.
Britons have rules "The transmission of civilization", use it to colonial the world.
Crusader have rules "Holy war", use it to invasion of the Middle East.
Ancient China also have rules "教化蛮夷", we certainly is not a good neighbor...

So We will not follow the rules of the Western, we will draw up own rules.
Western media can not deceive us. It wants us to do, not necessarily in our interest, just consistent with USA interests.
We will find own way, to develop new rules(Collectivism and pragmatism) of the game, protect our own interests.

 

[Chinese-Dragon]

If I was paid 100 bucks every time I read that Winston Churchill remark in this forum, I would have been a millionaire by now.

If I had 100 dollars every time an Indian forum member started a flame war, only to refuse to answer any further questions...

I'd be pretty rich too...

 

[twoplustwoisfour]

Yes we do. Just not to the point where we have 7 kids each and all of them suffer from malnutrition.

We also have a right to eat. You just have to earn food to eat, not beg the government for food.

Again, would you guys please just stay on topic?

 

[below_freezing]

I would not do to that extent to state that the Dalai Lamas were dictators.

I am sure that while the West felt that Mao and the CCP are dictators, the Chinese people, notwithstanding the horror stories from the media.

I don't think that the Chinese feel that Mao was a dictator or that the he and CCP had kept them in bonds, Tienanmen Square and all that notwithstanding.

Therefore, if the Tibetans did not feel that His Holiness The Dalai Lama was not a dictator, I wonder if it would be correct for others to comment and pass judgement as the Gospel Truth.

If indeed His Holiness the Dalai Lama's rule was that bad and dictatorial, then why should the Tibetan official appointed by the Chinese Govt be so wary, fretful and scared about the influence of the Dalai Lama in Tibet that is currently under Chinese rule?

The idea of being a dictator and unloved vs the total fear freeze of the Tibetan official at the actions of the Dalai Lama far away in India, does appear a trifle incongruous.

I will only remind you of 2 things: there is far more evidence of Dalai Lama regime skinning people alive to make drums and gouging eyeballs than there is of even 1 person dying in the Great Leap Forward. Yet guess which one is publicized more?

Another thing: Dictators don't have to be feared. Gaddafi was a wildly popular dictator for the first few years of his regime. People simply forgot about the way Dalai Lama tortured people to death by skinning them alive, gouging eyeballs, cutting off legs and arms, etc.

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[tanlixiang28776]

We also have a right to eat. You just have to earn food to eat, not beg the government for food.

Again, would you guys please just stay on topic?

Stop posting Ridiculous assertions then maybe.

 

[twoplustwoisfour]

I will only remind you of 2 things: there is far more evidence of Dalai Lama regime skinning people alive to make drums and gouging eyeballs than there is of even 1 person dying in the Great Leap Forward. Yet guess which one is publicized more?

Another thing: Dictators don't have to be feared. Gaddafi was a wildly popular dictator for the first few years of his regime. People simply forgot about the way Dalai Lama tortured people to death by skinning them alive, gouging eyeballs, cutting off legs and arms, etc.

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Stop posting Ridiculous assertions then maybe.

Ditto.