Cyber-attack on U.S. firms, Google traced to Chinese

[gambit]

And what good would do that?

To convince the Chinese government to stop its cyber warfare. Remove China from the Internet root servers is the 'nuclear option'.

 

[H2O3C4Nitrogen]

so how the US public will react to this one ..? Certainly the hate against Chinese is projected quite alot these days, i hope it dosent have devastating intentions ..!

 

[Comet]

To convince the Chinese government to stop its cyber warfare. Remove China from the Internet root servers is the 'nuclear option'.

Well its good idea but remember that in the world of internet there are no boundaries. Taking China out of it may affect a lot of businesses.

 

[no_name]

"Originally Posted by umairp View Post
And what good would do that?"

Probably nothing except having it being treated as serious as say a naval blockade.

You're right Gambit, just because you can doesn't mean you must, otherwise we'll all be charred glowing dust by now.

 

[no_name]

Well its good idea but remember that in the world of internet there are no boundaries. Taking China out of it may affect a lot of businesses.

Someone got my point. Banking relies on internet. Not just businesses, countries do business with china

 

[gambit]

Well its good idea but remember that in the world of internet there are no boundaries. Taking China out of it may affect a lot of businesses.

It will hurt China more than it will annoy US. Ultimately, this is not what we want. This cyber 'nuclear option' will generate animosity that will take years to erase. The Chinese government knows this and is testing America's patience. China will know when to stop. The threat will be made under the table.

 

[no_name]

To convince the Chinese government to stop its cyber warfare. Remove China from the Internet root servers is the 'nuclear option'.

That does nothing but turning public opinion anti-US.

Also I mentioned it will not stop spying by chinese backed Personnel in other countries

Every countries engage cyber warfare

 

[gambit]

That does nothing but turning public opinion anti-US.

Do not care. No one forces the Chinese public to buy US goods or watch US movies or partake of anything American culture. You hate US but still want to buy our stuff? Fine...We have a deal.

Also I mentioned it will not stop spying by chinese backed Personnel in other countries

Every countries engage cyber warfare

When they see China either severed from the Internet or give in to US demands, what do you think they will do?

 

[no_name]

Well, if you so believe. I guess its a possible step, abit subjected to debate.
Gonna go eat dinner.

 

[oceanx]

I love to see the day PRC is severed from the Yankee net - yes Gambit the very "net" I am typing words across. Preferably severed from "space" where satellites fly, too - o wait - that's going to violate the human rights of CCP degenerates who must have launched them flying saucers to steal Amrikan **** ...

Violate the violator - ain't that the Amrikan Dream?

It's time for the evil PRC to go for make or break. Can't make it? Break.

But do feel free to take you know who with you - in order to redeem yourself, you evil red empire ... make way for the righteous!

 

[Gazzi]

Yeh, yeh and yeh, the internet will hurt China, and all the borrowing China gives to keep the US economy floating during this difficult time, the Chinese will pull the plug to and tell the US to go and swivel. They can make huge in route into other countries economies as well as scrupper plans for the US sanctions on Iran and other states which will happily back China for more technology which the US is not willing to sell.

In the long run the US gets hurt the most and alot more as the Chinese will force a separate way of doing business, especially with the Middle East, and going by the recent trend of the way the Arabs are feeling about the US, they will not take much convincing if they see another solution, right now they are just stuck, hence why couintries like Saudi Arabia has invested $500 billion in the US economy alone. China will actively seek to hurt the US by pushing for economies to move away from the dollar and into other currencies.......

So you see sir, China too has OPTIONS, not just the US anymore

 

[democracyspeaks]

China has been attacking not only US Mil sites but also government websites of other countries.

Regarding the above google & read "TITAN RAIN - Shawn Carpenter"

But if u compare chinese and american hackers and chinese are still kids infront of american and babies infront of russian hackers.

 

[Cisco-GUY]

Yes it will. Every country is assigned an IP address. If we remove China's from the root servers, China can still be re-routed through another country at their generosity

No they won't. IP address would remain the same, doesn't matter from which Upstream ISP you would route.

Besides that, APNIC - Home gives IP address to countries of Asia region. So China has to borrow IP address of countries which can be easily bullied. And since it will remain a private IP address within that country and ISP, US would never know.

, but that would alert US and who is going to piss US off just to make good with China and share China's fate on the Internet? This is the actual Internet root servers themselves, not the DNS root servers.

Actually removing routes will not work as the information will be transferred within other domains in couple of hours, Internet convergence is slow, its made to be slow as there are millions of networks connected. Flapping routes will throw Internet in chaos.

What would US do is poison China's IP address and point it towards bit bucket, means show those IP address as unassigned or not taken therefore data to those destinations can be dropped.

In this case also, US has to ask upstream ISP's (Tier 1) like BT, FT, AT&T, Singtel etc etc to not mask their traffic by its IP.

Its very messy, especially for huge country like china.

 

[SinoIndusFriendship]

That does nothing but turning public opinion anti-US.

Also I mentioned it will not stop spying by chinese backed Personnel in other countries

Every countries engage cyber warfare

That is true. I read somewhere that China receives MORE hacking attempts FROM the USA than vice versa.

In other words, the frightened Zionists Jews are making noise. To be fair, there is a major split with the elders of zion, with some opting for friendship with Asians and another group for confrontation. I know of ordinary jews who fall in both categories.

It is best if we all accept a SHARED MULTI-POLAR WORLD, where no single group dominates.

 

[Cisco-GUY]

That is true. I read somewhere that China receives MORE hacking attempts FROM the USA than vice versa.

In other words, the frightened Zionists Jews are making noise. To be fair, there is a major split with the elders of zion, with some opting for friendship with Asians and another group for confrontation. I know of ordinary jews who fall in both categories.

It is best if we all accept a SHARED MULTI-POLAR WORLD, where no single group dominates.

Its quite astonishing that PRC needs a shared multi-polar world while keeping one party communist monarchy at its home turf.

You should practise what you preach.