CV-18 Fujian - Type 003 Aircraft Carrier News & Discussions

[ChineseTiger1986]

Here is the length of the waterline of the CVN-79 without the bulbous bow.

293 meters

The initial estimation for the Type 003 is around 287 meters, but the modules have not been wielded together yet, so it needs further observation.

However, a waterline of 310 meters with the bulbous bow is a quite safe bet for now.

 

[Niko Zhang]

Here is the length of the waterline of the CVN-79 without the bulbous bow.

293 meters
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The initial estimation for the Type 003 is around 287 meters, but the modules have not been wielded together yet, so it needs further observation.
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However, a waterline of 310 meters with the bulbous bow is a quite safe bet for now.

兄弟啊，要丢人现眼可以，别来这里行不行？所有的图我都截好了，以后用事实来戳破你的这个国际笑话吧。就像之前那些说买苏35就剁吊的人一样。

 

[Niko Zhang]

To be fair I didn't know the 003 was larger than the Nimitz. I always assumed it was in the Kitty Hawk size range, maybe slightly larger?

It will be a bit smaller than Kitty Hawk. And, don’t trust ANYONE when it comes to this topic, including me. In time u will know the true answer.

 

[Figaro]

It will be a bit smaller than Kitty Hawk. And, don’t trust ANYONE when it comes to this topic, including me. In time u will know the true answer.

We will know by this fall

 

[Niko Zhang]

We will know by this fall

In time, everything will be known, every detail. So I won’t say a single word about this future thing. And I do suggest u do the same. No gossip worth listening.

 

[Figaro]

In time, everything will be known, every detail. So I won’t say a single word about this future thing. And I do suggest u do the same. No gossip worth listening.

This is all about speculation. Me, you, and @ChineseTiger1986 are all speculating the features of the 003. If there wasn't speculation, why would we even have a forum at all? No one wants to wait to talk about something until that something has been unveiled ... that would be pointless.

 

[Niko Zhang]

This is all about speculation. Me, you, and @ChineseTiger1986 are all speculating the features of the 003. If there wasn't speculation, why would we even have a forum at all? No one wants to wait to talk about something until that something has been unveiled ... that would be pointless.

Speculation doesn’t equal to non-sense.

 

[ChineseTiger1986]

It will be a bit smaller than Kitty Hawk. And, don’t trust ANYONE when it comes to this topic, including me. In time u will know the true answer.

lol, show me the proof why it is smaller than the 75,000 tons Kitty Hawk.

I want the concrete evidence, not the blind worship from fzgfzy, since that guy has no credibility at all.

Speculation doesn’t equal to non-sense.

Dude, your knowledge about the aircraft carrier is even poorer than me.

What is the source of your confidence to say that I am spewing the nonsense？

When there was no trace of the Type 003, of course too much baseless speculation would be the nonsense.

But now many characteristics of the Type 003 are available with the satellite images, anyone with the critical thinking skills can start to analyze by themselves, not just blindly follow the words from these so-called Internet big shrimps.

 

[samsara]

From Dante80 /SDF:

I'll be surprised if 003 doesn't have an EMALS. At least, almost all info and leaks we currently have (and have had during the last years) point to it.

I vaguely remember a specific leak - for example - from one of the people that were working on a steam catapult system for the new carriers, saying that their work was verified, scheduled for integration to the next carrier and then cancelled due to the carrier changing to an EMALS. IIRC, EMALS integration was also one of the main reasons for 003 coming much later into existence than it was originally expected or rumored.

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Few interesting things from the passage IMO:

• I haven't realized there's any info/discussion at PDF of "leak" on the steam catapult system being verified then cancelled due to switching to EMALS.

• And consequently this catapult issue has been causing delay to 003.
Otherwise this 3rd carrier should have come out earlier. I have the distant feeling of some delay on the 003 but my memory has faded out what's the possible cause. How time elapses…

• How many here still think that 003 will stick to the older system: steam catapult?

A poll querying this matter will be fascinating, incl the power system. We may never have chance again for this kind of query after the 003

Could possibly be a Poll of Civilization, not just a lifetime poll!!

Something like:

What do you predict of the 003:
a) Steam catapult + Coventional power
b) Steam catapult + Nuclear power
c) EMALS + Coventional power
d) EMALS + Nuclear power
e) None of above

May we have a poll like this at PDF?

Established early then opened for a couple of weeks before things become obvious and pose no more fun to guess.

 

[ChineseTiger1986]

d > c = b > a > e

 

[Figaro]

From Dante80 /SDF:

I'll be surprised if 003 doesn't have an EMALS. At least, almost all info and leaks we currently have (and have had during the last years) point to it.

I vaguely remember a specific leak - for example - from one of the people that were working on a steam catapult system for the new carriers, saying that their work was verified, scheduled for integration to the next carrier and then cancelled due to the carrier changing to an EMALS. IIRC, EMALS integration was also one of the main reasons for 003 coming much later into existence than it was originally expected or rumored.

~~~~~~~~~~

Few interesting things from the passage IMO:

• I haven't realized there's any info/discussion at PDF of "leak" on the steam catapult system being verified then cancelled due to switching to EMALS.

• And consequently this catapult issue has been causing delay to 003.
Otherwise this 3rd carrier should have come out earlier. I have the distant feeling of some delay on the 003 but my memory has faded out what's the possible cause. How time elapses…

• How many here still think that 003 will stick to the older system: steam catapult?

A poll querying this matter will be fascinating, incl the power system. We may never have chance again for this kind of query after the 003

A Poll of Civilization, not just a lifetime poll!!

Something like:
a) Steam catapult + Coventional power
b) Steam catapult + Nuclear power
c) EMALS + Coventional power
d) EMALS + Nuclear power
e) None of above

May we have a poll like this at PDF?

Established early then opened for a couple of weeks before things become obvious and pose no more fun to guess.

It was already confirmed back in 2016 or 2017 that the 003 will be equipped with EM catapults. Why would any sensible person think otherwise? The only question that remains the propulsion.

 

[samsara]

It was already confirmed back in 2016 or 2017 that the 003 will be equipped with EM catapults. Why would any sensible person think otherwise? The only question that remains the propulsion.

… yet we still noted an "Elite" class —the specialist of "list maker", contribute least, good for asking this and that in irritating fashion most of the time— asked such question which the poster indeed addressed by above

 

[Niko Zhang]

lol, show me the proof why it is smaller than the 75,000 tons Kitty Hawk.

I want the concrete evidence, not the blind worship from fzgfzy, since that guy has no credibility at all.



Dude, your knowledge about the aircraft carrier is even poorer than me.

What is the source of your confidence to say that I am spewing the nonsense？

When there was no trace of the Type 003, of course too much baseless speculation would be the nonsense.

But now many characteristics of the Type 003 are available with the satellite images, anyone with the critical thinking skills can start to analyze by themselves, not just blindly follow the words from these so-called Internet big shrimps.

Certainly there is no point to argue with your nonsense since u have even denied facts already. I do have some speculations, but I prefer to hit u with the ship itself when she sails. Oh, and don’t you worry, I got your word screenshotted.

WE WILL WAIT AND SEE.

 

[obj 705A]

u have even denied facts already.

mind sharing these "facts" with us regarding the type 003's size when compared to the Kitty Hawk? ChineseTiger used satalite measurments as proof that it is wider and longer than Kitty Hawk, ofcourse the length may change once the modules are welded together but for now the length measurments say it's longer than Kitty hawk, if you have evidence that suggest otherwise than at least share it with us.

 

[Niko Zhang]

mind sharing these "facts" with us regarding the type 003's size when compared to the Kitty Hawk? ChineseTiger used satalite measurments as proof that it is wider and longer than Kitty Hawk, ofcourse the length may change once the modules are welded together but for now the length measurments say it's longer than Kitty hawk, if you have evidence that suggest otherwise than at least share it with us.

The fact I was talking about is:

1, Those 956, 051B, 051C are quite useful. One 956E was upgraded recently, and there is another one under modification. 051B was also upgraded couple years back. So calling these ships “outdated” is wrong. What is a outdated ship like for PLAN? Ships like those 051 and 053H1. Otherwise I will just say all the ships except 055 are outdated.

2, He refuse to admit that Kitty Hawk class and Forrestal class are convention al carrier that are more than 80k tons. Indeed he quoted a source but should u spend simply 10 more minutes u will find out his source is highly questionable.