CV-18 Fujian - Type 003 Aircraft Carrier News & Discussions

[zebra7]

What is the timeline of type 003 Nuclear Carrier.

What is the Status of J-15, and does it is designed for catapull takeoff and recovery.

Any plan for J-31 and J-20 carrier variants.

Which Aerial AEW&C platform from the Carrier ?

 

[neytirilover]

What is the timeline of type 003 Nuclear Carrier.

What is the Status of J-15, and does it is designed for catapull takeoff and recovery.

Any plan for J-31 and J-20 carrier variants.

Which Aerial AEW&C platform from the Carrier ?

The timeline of Type 003 is still unclear, my guess it will be largely dependent on the progress of development of a carrier-borne reactor, as well as suitable steam turbines. Chinese technology on 4th Gen civilian purpose reactors are quite mature now, both in terms of hardware and software systems. So I guess this won't take forever. While type 003 is under development, it is likely that at least two type 002/002A will be built, the first type 003 carrier is likely going to be built almost simultaneously with the last type 002A just like what's happening now between type 001A and type 002, it is also possible that two type 003 will be laid at the same time, if its development took longer and all type 002/002A are launched.

The J-15 variant for catapult takeoff and recovery is under steady development with smooth progress, again, I have no information of any timeline or date. So far, at least 10 J-15 is already carrier-borne.

Debate is ongoing as which stealth platform should we use but that has probably already been determined under the hood.

 

[cnleio]

I only knew the type002 to install domestic steam catapult on the deck.

Until to 2020, China might have three 60,000~80,000 ton Aircraft Carriers: type001 CV-16, type001A CV-17, type002 CV-18

 

[zebra7]

 

[cnleio]

Chinese r building the A.C: CV-16, CV-17, CV-18

 

[terranMarine]

Actually CV-17 and onwards doesn't really suit for labeling the next carriers. CV-16 was chosen because it took 16 years from purchase to towing it back to China to refurbishing the carrier. Better sticking to the 001,001A,002 for now until PLAN officially announces the designations.

 

[sheik]

Nuclear power reactor is over rated. Even you have unlimited range, you still need replenish ammo, aviation fuel and food. Still unable to eliminate replenishment ,a dangerous and vulnerable process at sea.

A nuclear carrier doesn't have to bring fuel for itself, hence it can save a lot of space and bring much more aircraft fuel, weapons, parts, and other supplies. The replenishment ship can benefit from this too. That's a big advantage.

 

[Keel]

No worry necessary over China's second aircraft carrier: expert
English.news.cn 2016-01-01 22:16:42

BEIJING, Jan. 1 (Xinhua) -- A military expert said construction of China's second aircraft carrier is normal and the scale of China's aircraft carrier development is much smaller than that of the United States and even India.

Aircraft carriers can help China better defend world peace and stability and play its role as a responsible developing power, Zhang Junshe, a researcher with the People's Liberation Army's (PLA) Naval Military Studies Research Institute, told 81.cn, the official website of the PLA Daily.

A spokesman for China's defense ministry said Thursday that China's second carrier, with a displacement of 50,000 tonnes, is conventionally powered and will employ a ski-jump design for warplanes to take off.

As a latecomer, China needs to build conventionally powered carriers first in order to gain experience, and then build nuclear-powered ones according to the situation, said Zhang, noting that the design and manufacturing processes are completely domestic, with no foreign help.

Zhang added that future Chinese carriers will be fitted with catapults for fighter jets to take off on deck, but the process will be gradual since catapult take-off involves more complex technology.

He noted that, compared with China's first carrier, the Liaoning, the second carrier will have more mature technology and performance, with better coordination between its systems and high anti-interference capacity.

While the main purpose of the Liaoning is research, testing and training, Zhang said the second carrier will be able to carry out combat operations more quickly. "Its missions will possibly include combat readiness on duty and other normal operations, including humanitarian rescue and disaster relief."

A report from the PLA Daily in late December said China's carrier forces, mainly those operating the Liaoning, had made considerable progress in fighting capacity this year, with more fighters parked on the carrier and more flights handled by the vessel.

The Liaoning was refitted from a former Soviet ship known as Varyag. It was delivered to the Chinese Navy on Sept. 25, 2012.


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[Keel]

My projection:

001 Liaoning - for training and stand-by backup for other carriers' routine repair and maintenance
002 - 50K-ton, ski-jump, diesel, SCS

Next 6 years after launching of 002
003 - 60K - 80K tons - emals, nuclear - east sea and/or scs
005 - 60K - 80K tons - emals, nuclear - east sea and/or scs

Next 6 years after launching of 005
006 - 100K tons - emals, nuclear - scs and/or east pacific
007 - 100K tons - emals, nuclear - scs and/or east pacific

Next 6 years
Liaoning retires
008 - 100K tons - emals, nuclear, pan Asia/ global
009 - 100k tons - emals, nuclear, global

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[Oldman1]

Nuclear power reactor is over rated. Even you have unlimited range, you still need replenish ammo, aviation fuel and food. Still unable to eliminate replenishment ,a dangerous and vulnerable process at sea.

A carrier without nuclear power requires vast amount of fuel to keep the carrier going. Without it, it will run out of fuel in days. Not weeks. Days.

 

[nang2]

A carrier without nuclear power requires vast amount of fuel to keep the carrier going. Without it, it will run out of fuel in days. Not weeks. Days.

Only when it is full steam ahead

 

[Oldman1]

Only when it is full steam ahead

Which is needed. And considering that aircraft carriers would need large space to carry fuel instead of weapons and so on.

 

[nang2]

Which is needed. And considering that aircraft carriers would need large space to carry fuel instead of weapons and so on.

I don't think China intends to use these aircraft carriers far from home. Not until nuclear powered version is built.

 

[Oldman1]

I don't think China intends to use these aircraft carriers far from home. Not until nuclear powered version is built.

Its not about far from home. Its getting from A to B quickly to respond. Even looking at the map you see large bodies of water to cover.

 

[nang2]

Its not about far from home. Its getting from A to B quickly to respond. Even looking at the map you see large bodies of water to cover.

Well, how did kittyhawk work out?