CV-18 Fujian - Type 003 Aircraft Carrier News & Discussions

[ChineseTiger1986]

But why not IEPs for the carrier like the Queen-Elizabeth class ... ? It's better than nuclear ...

China's ultimate goal is the nuclear carrier with the preferred unlimited range.

 

[cirr]

The total budget of 4.8 billion RMB including 003 CV itself?

The cost of new facilities at JN for building strategic assets such as CV.

江南造船党委紧紧抓住发展海洋经济、建设海洋强国和强大国防的战略契机，瞄准成为“中国第一军工造船企业”的目标，将军工生产作为发展生命线和首要任务，军工核心地位和影响力更加突出。江南造船还规划了适应未来装备建设需求的条件保障建设，将为公司实现战术产品向战略产品转型升级奠定基础。

 

[Han Patriot]

But why not IEPs for the carrier like the Queen-Elizabeth class ... ? It's better than nuclear ... especially given Ma Weiming's work

Bro, IEPS can work with either diesel/MGO/Nuclear.

 

[Figaro]

Bro, IEPS can work with either diesel/MGO/Nuclear.

IEPs with conventional ... that's how the QE class does it

 

[Dungeness]

The cost of new facilities at JN for building strategic assets such as CV.

江南造船党委紧紧抓住发展海洋经济、建设海洋强国和强大国防的战略契机，瞄准成为“中国第一军工造船企业”的目标，将军工生产作为发展生命线和首要任务，军工核心地位和影响力更加突出。江南造船还规划了适应未来装备建设需求的条件保障建设，将为公司实现战术产品向战略产品转型升级奠定基础。

That's lot of money for facility alone.

 

[Han Patriot]

IEPs with conventional ... that's how the QE class does it

I would prefer IEPS with nuclear power.

 

[waja2000]

It says about the issuance of a new bidding project: to construct a special ship development support facility, a heavy construction project in the Changxing Island, Shanghai, that is JNCX Shipyard... the construction area is as large as nearly 20,000 sq. meters which includes: 1) the new heavy assembly platform; 2) the new transitional road; 3) new crane rail; 4) the new vertical trench; 5) new mobile shelter base

Total investment of project (the whole new project incl. this part): around 4,856 millions RMB;
construction cost of bid section: around 143 millions RMB; project duration: 6 months

The 2nd project at that site/for the same company at below says:

The construction scale of the project new construction area of 2,467 square meters, including: 1) new steel pretreatment workshop; 2) new paint base; 3) new hazardous waste warehouse; 4) new hazardous waste storage shed; 5) new waste yard.
construction cost of bid section: around 17 millions RMB
project duration: 4 months

Noticing the figures? These two projects are valued at more or less 143 & 17 mio respectively while the shipbuilder company has allocated fund as much as 4,856 millions RMB to build various new facilities there... means there are many more to construct at that site, the Changxing Island!!

Key message: the JNCX Shipyard is flourishing, has deep pocket, keep on building new facilities, thus one may expect that with more and better facilities, more new ships will come out at faster rate (as well as better quality)

In news said will install 2x 450 tons gantry cranes seems not enough to construction Aircraft Carrier, minimum need should be around 1000 tons Goliath gantry cranes. but possible will make other Goliath gantry cranes purchase later.

 

[GS Zhou]

招标项目名称 特种船舶研制保障条件建设项目重型总组平台

建设地点 上海市崇明县长兴岛长兴江南大道988号。位于港池北护岸后方陆域，西邻跃进河新建泵闸及跃进河，东部位待建4#总装场地，北侧为厂区2号道路。

the news about the facility construction for building specialized vessel (特种船舶) at JNCX shows on internet since 2014 or 15. For example, the news below, which said the completion of a 1600T gantry crane at JNCX by Nov. 2015.

江南1600T龙门吊及研发设计楼项目顺利进行
发布时间：2015-11-24 16:27:06

2015年11月24日，中船九院江南项目部参与全程设备项目管理的特种船舶研制保障条件建设项目4号坞1600T龙门吊顺利完成总装吊装。项目部克服了设备制造周期短、工作体量大、吊装难度高等诸多难点，按期完成了1600T龙门吊的重大吊装，得到了业主方的充分肯定。

另外，距离1600T起重机不远的研发设计楼项目也正如火如荼地建设中。该项目将是江南造船基地内除总办大楼之外的另一个标志性建筑，受到江南厂与集团领导的极大关注，中船九院领导及项目部成员也为之付出极大心血。11月24日孙伟军副总亲赴现场视察并督促工作。(廉佳衡、嵇秉浩）

That's lot of money for facility alone.

4.8 billion RMB is a big amount of money. But considering the project's extreme importance to China's national security, I would say this is a good investment.

If we spend 4.8 billion RMB in other area, we can get, for example 40km metro line, or 30km high speed rail line. Compared the metro line, or high speed rail line, vs. a modernized facility for aircraft carriers building, I would say the latter is a better choice.

In news said will install 2x 450 tons gantry cranes seems not enough to construction Aircraft Carrier, minimum need should be around 1000 tons Goliath gantry cranes. but possible will make other Goliath gantry cranes purchase later.

a 1600T crane already completed at JNCX in two years ago. You can refer to my news sharing above.

 

[lmjiao]

EMALS for Type 003
link: https://lt.cjdby.net/forum.php?mod=viewthread&tid=2411412

This is actually screen shot of some video.
Lets wait for someone to leak the video.

 

[Deino]

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EMALS for Type 003
link: https://lt.cjdby.net/forum.php?mod=viewthread&tid=2411412

This is actually screen shot of some video.
Lets wait for someone to leak the video.

Uiii
Another part of the already revealed image ...

 

[lmjiao]

Uiii
Another part of the already revealed image ...

View attachment 423481

I guess these might be different frames of same video.

 

[lmjiao]

View attachment 423479
EMALS for Type 003
link: https://lt.cjdby.net/forum.php?mod=viewthread&tid=2411412

This is actually screen shot of some video.
Lets wait for someone to leak the video.

This figure has been deleted by the author already in Chinese forums.

Luckily I have uploaded it here.

 

[Galactic Penguin SST]

China hires Ukrainian engineer of aircraft carrier the Varyag (Liaoning)

September 06, 2017

Recently, news related to China’s first aircraft carrier the Liaoning was widely circulated among Chinese military enthusiasts.

Ukrainian engineer Valery Vasilevich Babich, the chief designer of the Varyag, the predecessor of the Liaoning, was hired by a ship research and design institute company in Qingdao, east China’s Shandong province.

Valery has called the Liaoning no ordinary training ship, and its historical mission is to provide necessary theoretical and technical support for the localization of China’s successor aircraft carriers. He also believes the Liaoning will shine brilliantly, and its operational performance is likely to be far ahead of the Varyag.

The Liaoning, China's first aircraft carrier, was refitted from the former Ukrainian vessel, Varyag.

Spoiler

http://en.people.cn/NMediaFile/2017/0906/FOREIGN201709061416000046402011323.jpg
http://en.people.cn/n3/2017/0906/c90000-9265324.html

▲ Ukrainian engineer Valery Vasilevich Babich, the chief designer of the Varyag

http://en.people.cn/n3/2017/0906/c90000-9265324.html

Not only North Koreans being able to attract former Soviet Union's scientists...

 

[Deino]

China hires Ukrainian engineer of aircraft carrier the Varyag (Liaoning)

Spoiler

http://en.people.cn/NMediaFile/2017/0906/FOREIGN201709061416000046402011323.jpg
http://en.people.cn/n3/2017/0906/c90000-9265324.html

▲ Ukrainian engineer Valery Vasilevich Babich, the chief designer of the Varyag

China hires Ukrainian engineer of aircraft carrier the Varyag (Liaoning)

This is a faked report. From what I know this is plain BS. Russians are just citing Chinese sources, which are now reposted again and again. Babich himself has told that this is BS.

via:

"Alexander Ermakov (Aleksandr Ermakov) Dylan Malyasov the story has a continuation, if not fake "I received a response directly from Valery Vasilyevich: Hello, Oleg! Today I fell asleep with such questions. I'm not going to move to China and I was not offered any job there for aircraft carriers. All that is written about me in this article is in Wikipedia under the heading "Babich Valery Vasilyevich" and even more. And about moving to China came up with yourself. You can tell these words from me if you have access to these sources. Yours faithfully, Valery Babich. "

Uppps ... forgot the link:

https://www.facebook.com/video.php?v=10156604993767166

 

[Daniel808]

This figure has been deleted by the author already in Chinese forums.

Luckily I have uploaded it here.

Why they deleted it, Is this photo really sensitive?