CV-18 Fujian - Type 003 Aircraft Carrier News & Discussions

[Polestar 2]

Future carrier vs carrier, the fighters would have ability to fly long range to take the fight further away from fleet. China's policy now is aiming for combat radius. Type 003 fighters wings, the J-15B/D has better aerodynamic and large fuel tank allowing it to cruise at higher speed and exceed further combat radius. China would build 3-4 newer carriers simultaneously after Type 003 proven successful on the EMALS.

Can fighter jet outrange ASBM? Theoritically, ASBM warhead can even fit on DF-31A to have a globe wide warship attack.

The only reason why carrier needed is for superpower to exert air control and offense far from shore against smaller nation and to project power for sea trade route.

 

[sheik]

According to 瀚海狼山, the decision to get rid of the 3rd elevator on Type 003 was to make it combat ready ASAP because the crew would be familiar with the deck operations currently conducted on Liaoning and Shandong.

 

[waja2000]

According to 瀚海狼山, the decision to get rid of the 3rd elevator on Type 003 was to make it combat ready ASAP because the crew would be familiar with the deck operations currently conducted on Liaoning and Shandong.

If correct, Than decision more like short sight. it can use 2 elevator first, 3nd elevator can be familiar later, since AC will use 40 year, PLAN can take there time for learn 3nd elevator.
3 elevator it also can be good training and experience for later AC too.

 

[obj 705A]

If correct, Than decision more like short sight. it can use 2 elevator first, 3nd elevator can be familiar later, since AC will use 40 year, PLAN can take there time for learn 3nd elevator.
3 elevator it also can be good training and experience for later AC too.

I'm sure this wasn't just one guy's dicision and instead it was made after discussions between all the generals and shipbuilders about what will be their strategies and what they can or can't build.
frankly I believe many (or perhaps most) of us here have significantly underestimated just how difficult it is to build a carrier.
the PLAN went as conservative as possible when building the CV except the choice of the catapult type (ie: chosing EMALS instead of steam) in all other aspects they were conservative, they chose conventional instead of nuclear propulsion, 3 instead of 4 catapults, size around that of Kitty Hawk instead of going all the way to 100k tonne, 2 instead of 3 elevators.
clearly building an upgraded CV from what is already present is far much more complex and difficult than what we thought.

 

[Polestar 2]

According to 瀚海狼山, the decision to get rid of the 3rd elevator on Type 003 was to make it combat ready ASAP because the crew would be familiar with the deck operations currently conducted on Liaoning and Shandong.

I don't believe it. Why not opt for ramp instead of catapult? It can be combat ready even asap than anybody can think of. Most likely another untrusted post.

 

[GiantPanda]

Getting rid of the 3rd elevator for crew familiarity is nonsensical. The true reason is the practical cons of a third elevator overrode the pros on the Type 003.

Having more elevators is not always better. The USS Ford would not have gone down to three from four on the Nimitz and Kitty Hawk if it were.

The lift mechanism eats into space and structure.

 

[Deino]

These latest images give a first full impression of the Type 003 carrier's outer shape of as well as any final doubts on a third catapult on the waist deck are eliminated .
So next steps are closure of the deck and the installation of the island.

(Images via @谈笑看世间）

 

[Deino]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1407710340411006977

 

[casual]

These latest images give a first full impression of the Type 003 carrier's outer shape of as well as any final doubts on a third catapult on the waist deck are eliminated .
So next steps are closure of the deck and the installation of the island.

(Images via @谈笑看世间）

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making good progress. I think this is building faster then 002.

 

[Deino]

And the puzzle is nearing completion ... if I'm not mistaken, then the last two front segments for the angled deck are already prepared and so in a certain way after these two parts, the missing middle panels of the flight deck and the island, the ship is structurally finished.

 

[nang2]

And the puzzle is nearing completion ... if I'm not mistaken, then the last two front segments for the angled deck are already prepared and so in a certain way after these two parts, the missing middle panels of the flight deck and the island, the ship is structurally finished.

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I don't think you are mistaken. The catapult grooves on these two last pieces line up pretty well for the angled deck.

 

[Deino]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1408354762945404933

 

[waja2000]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1408354762945404933

News said island will install before July.

 

[Globenim]

Getting rid of the 3rd elevator for crew familiarity is nonsensical. The true reason is the practical cons of a third elevator overrode the pros on the Type 003.

Having more elevators is not always better. The USS Ford would not have gone down to three from four on the Nimitz and Kitty Hawk if it were.

The lift mechanism eats into space and structure.

Size and doctrine also matter as well. Lifts can be sized very differently and depending on the doctrine and craft, they can carry one, two or in future maybe three launch vehicles at once, so fixed numbers and space on a elevator doesnt convert straight into catapult utilization

 

[Deino]

If true it would be simply wow

https://twitter.com/x/status/1408668224892260352