Current army distant from it's people

[Sinnerman108]

Yes, it did then too.

I count at least 3 different themes/issues that you have combined in your post above.

Sir ji, yes sir is a culture inculcated in uniform. It is a universal military ethos to respect the chain of command. Nothing particular in that about our army only. If what you are alluding to is lack of ability to question, then it comes down to personal character. Yes, you do run the risk of being too noisy and get posted out and in some cases put on adverse report. Maybe this is a rot that needs to be fixed among other things. I do know of cases outside of Pakistan where people quit the military because they feel its too suffocating etc.

Senior officer expenses. This has to be cleaned up from within the military. The belt tightening across the country may lead the army to do the same. No disagreement there.

The third point, I do disagree with you which is the need to learn "angraizi". You have to, if you want to run a competent army. It is simply for the reasons that most of your weapon systems are of foreign origin and we do a despicable job of keeping our vernacular updated to be able to accommodate. We don't do the complex work of localizing the information/documentation/training material that comes with the various weapon systems in use. Zia's Urdu medium nonsense set our workforce back. I say this having lived through that. I don't know how old you are and if you did experience that or not, but it set our youth back.

As you must be aware, the vast majority of our ranks is not competent in the English language (most have not even matriculated from Urdu medium schools) so the expectation is that young officers would help bridge this gap. I have commented on this issue many times in the past. It has nothing to do with the legacy of the angraiz and all to do with a practical need.

Someone had argued with me about the same in the past and I had provided an anecdote from one insider who simply mentioned to me, have them translate the many thousands of pages of manuals for the F-16 flight line into Urdu and then we would have no need to teach our airmen angraizi.

So while eating with forks and knives can be relegated to the dustbin of history, for good or bad, angraizi language cannot.

maybe in a few years, you will agree with me.
I don't have a single hair that isn't white.

Save and mark above post, keep thinking about what I said,
you will find answers.

 

[Al_Muhannad]

This reminds of a report that said that Pakistan would cease to exist by 2025 and be absorbed into a south asian superstate under indian hegemony. The current crisis is simply too big to be caused by dress code of IK or AM poking into IK finances.

Just wow

https://twitter.com/x/status/1647179221645574144

 

[Goenitz]

the highest level of distancing from empathy, public and humanity

https://twitter.com/x/status/1647201535678447617

 

[PakFactor]

Just wow

https://twitter.com/x/status/1647179221645574144

We, as a nation, can't do anything but laugh.

 

[Goenitz]

People in the current environment may not like hearing me say this again, but please rest assured all of this will blow over. Trust me.

The era has changed. The public is young and etched with the memory of being taken as children of a lesser god.
Everything is recorded in digital media. It will keep coming back until the course direction changes.

 

[Al_Muhannad]

Apart from the depressing events of today and even worse events of immediate future, I have firm belief that we as a nation would pull through this storm.

When the going gets tough:

 

[VCheng]

The era has changed. The public is young and etched with the memory of being taken as children of a lesser god.
Everything is recorded in digital media. It will keep coming back until the course direction changes.

The claims of such changes are being made, yes, but that is about all. Actual results would be the proper way to judge the veracity of such claims, and they are still nowhere to be seen thus far.

 

[ARMalik]

Like a broken record, I have said this many times that ordinary people of KPK and Baluchistan are going into a FULL FLEDGE ARM STRUGGLE soon because these people now fully understand that without Weapons these vicious Hyenas sitting in the GHQ will not listen. We have another 1971 in the making right in front of our eyes and I am shocked that no one is understanding the seriousness and gravity of the situation.

 

[Crimson Blue]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1647326482463870976

 

[Olympus81]

Sometimes, you step back and think what policy is the military establishment adopting.

Do they want to become a ‘small’ player, become subservient to US, join the Indian bloc, and limit relations with China & Russia.

The messaging of belittling themselves in every forum and comments like this is a new Fauj seems to suggest so.

 

[BamsiBey]

Like a broken record, I have said this many times that ordinary people of KPK and Baluchistan are going into a FULL FLEDGE ARM STRUGGLE soon because these people now fully understand that without Weapons these vicious Hyenas sitting in the GHQ will not listen. We have another 1971 in the making right in front of our eyes and I am shocked that no one is understanding the seriousness and gravity of the situation.

Lest be clear, GHQ snakes only understand two things: $$$ and lust for power. They're psychotic obsessed with both and will go to any end to protect their interest.

They will never compromise on either, unless Uncle Sam tells them to back off.