Curfew in Mohammad Agency

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Those of you who speak Pashtoo, here is the reality. Zarb-e-Azb this and Zar-e-Azb that.

This is the exact phenomena that Ashraf Ghani was referring to recently, that unless Pakistan join hands with Afghanistan and stops differentiating between good and bad talis, you will not be able to sustain this false illusion of let Afghanistan burn while we live in pace.

Of course Geo news is more interested in Karachi related news.

https://www.facebook.com/video.php?v=1213125662078981

Certainly, after Mr. Ghani was done spewing venom against Pakistan it is every evident what direction Afghanistan and Afghanis are heading. I think it is good because day after day every Pakistani is releasing Afghans are the enemy of Pakistan and a grave threat to your sovereignty. Once we are done kicking out these refugees, btw who have no shame to leave voluntarily.

Pakistan knows how we can take care of Afghanistan and we certainly will take good care of you. We know which side we need to support. But currently Pakistan should boot out all these #Namak_Harams and Seal and Fence the border rest will be dealt later on.

 

[A-Team]

Certainly, after Mr. Ghani was done spewing venom against Pakistan it is every evident what direction Afghanistan and Afghanis are heading. I think it is good because day after day every Pakistani is releasing Afghans are the enemy of Pakistan and a grave threat to your sovereignty. Once we are done kicking out these refugees, btw who have no shame to leave voluntarily.

Pakistan knows how we can take care of Afghanistan and we certainly will take good care of you. We know which side we need to support. But currently Pakistan should boot out all these #Namak_Harams and Seal and Fence the border rest will be dealt later on.

By your logic in bold, you have just accepted that Pakistan is destabilizing Afghanistan, so if she has been doing it which you have accepted then why do you blame Afghans for standing up to you

Seal the border or not its your own decision, but please be a little honest, you cant have it both ways

 

[salarsikander]

Seal the border or not its your own decision, but please be a little honest, you cant have it both ways

Its really hard to work with you guys when your NDS offcier are caught form Peshawar you see.

Taliban are taking over Kabul, If i were you Instead of getting high on naswar, I would worry about that.

 

[Arsalan]

Ok I will try to respond to you quickly because rest of the posters were just emotional ranting.

- This will never work. I will stress on the need of a Zer-e-Azab like operation inside Afghanistan by Afghan forces. We are ready to help is it is required. [ Sounds good, ] would be nice if you start by kicking out Afghan Talis who are residingn in Pak and also stop supporting their logisttics etc. We are fighting them and winning but they run back to PK like rats.

- Our aim is to have better relations with the Afghan authorities : Sounds very good but actions would speak louder then words, there was Ghani with whom there was a best chance of making peace, he beant backwards, refused Indian supply of weapon and all he got is mere talk and Burka offensive.

- Northern Alliance : that is our internal matter, let us deal with them.

You see unless and until Pakistan a strategic decision to let go of controlling Afghanistan through her proxies, these sweet talks coming out of Pakistan mean nothing. I hope they come come true but the last two burka offensives show otherwise.



Not against Pakistan, I am telling you the hard truths. I have condemned this episode in another thread and feel sorry for common Pakistanis. Besides its not mean talking its your fellow Pakistani talking on record.

We were suffering from it last week in Kabul.

So you are saying that Afghanistan wont act agaist the terrorists hiding and bein nourished in Afghanistan because they think Pakistan is not doing the same? isnt it classifying talibans as good and bad on your part?
I said "think" because the truth, though admitted reluctantly even by US is that Pak is making efforts as best as it could to handle all the terrorists. The operation zarb-e-azab was part of the process and is paying us back well. The terrorist activities have been reduced and peace is being restored. It will be a time taking process thanks to the safe havens inside afghanistan and the porous nature of the border. We are sharing our burden of making that border effective but will need some actual work being done on other side fir the things to improve. As you said, actions will speak louder than words. Ghani i always acknowledge is good at heart and understands that it will be a joint effort with Pakistan that will resolve this issue however he alone was not able to do much. The overwhelming pressure by Norther Alliance made him eat his own words and back track on number of "statements". That was a set back for the region.

The thing is, it is always easier to balme one's own failuers on others. Even if it means over looking the facts where are the areas that are being controlled by Talibans. Who runs to where is quite clear already and have been further brought to limelight after the recent offensive on our side of border. It is time everyone realizes that and start doing something to stop the flow of terrorists from Afghanistan into Pakistan. Unless that is acomplished, long lasting peace will be a dream and one operation will follow another. Perhaps that is why there is this lack of interest from Afghan side!

 

[Flash_Ninja]

- This will never work. I will stress on the need of a Zer-e-Azab like operation inside Afghanistan by Afghan forces. We are ready to help is it is required. [ Sounds good, ] would be nice if you start by kicking out Afghan Talis who are residingn in Pak and also stop supporting their logisttics etc. We are fighting them and winning but they run back to PK like rats.

You realize that so-called Pakistani proxies couldn't run back to Pakistan IF YOU MONITORED YOUR BORDER, Instead the Afghan govt has no control of certain bordering regions and just thinks that terrorists are coming from Pakistan when in reality they are homegrown and coming from various rural areas. Its hardly our fault that your security is so incompetent that Taliban can somehow jet to Pakistan after every engagement.

Come out of this silly mentality and look at the facts, Pakistan is not interested in destabilising Afghanistan, we have 3 million of your refugees which we are trying to repatriate, destabilization would only lead to millions of more Afghans coming back, why would we want such a thing?

- Our aim is to have better relations with the Afghan authorities : Sounds very good but actions would speak louder then words, there was Ghani with whom there was a best chance of making peace, he beant backwards, refused Indian supply of weapon and all he got is mere talk and Burka offensive.

If Ghani was interested in having better relations with Pakistan, he wouldn't have been putting out stupid statements in the press every other day, time and time again Pakistan has offered an olive branch to Afghanistan. Its common knowledge that TTP resides in Afghanistan, when have you ever heard Nawaz Sharif go off on a tangent about Afghanistan sponsoring terrorism?

If you think that Ghani 'beant' over backwards for Pakistan then you are truly delusional. In your own words "actions speak louder than words"

- Northern Alliance : that is our internal matter, let us deal with them.

So deal with it then, nothing has been done so far, and I don't see anything happening for a long time.

 

[Kompromat]

Ghani is inviting us to project power inside Afghanistan and we will accept his invite.

 

[Kabira]

PESHAWAR: A curfew has been imposed in Mohmand Agency’s Anbar tehsil following a suicide attack in a mosque which left 30 people dead, local political administration officials said on Saturday.

After imposing the curfew, security forces launched a search operation in the area, Assistant Political Agent Naveed Akbar said.

The political administration also announced a compensation of Rs300,000 for families of each of the dead and Rs100,000 for each of the injured.

A suicide bomber targeted the mosque in Mohmand's Pai Khan village during Friday prayers, leaving at least 30 worshipers dead and wounding 30 others. Several children were also among those killed or wounded in the deadly attack.

Pashin Gul, the head of local tribal police, confirmed to the Associated Press that it was a suicide attack.

Jamaatul Ahrar, an offshoot of the banned Tehreek-i-Taliban Pakistan, claimed responsibility for the bombing and said the target were members of pro-government tribal lashkars.

Read: Electronic media turns a blind eye to Mohmand mosque attack

Jamaatul Ahrar had also claimed responsibility for the September 2 attack on a court in Mardan, where at least 14 people were killed and 50 others injured.

The group had also said it was behind an attack on lawyers in Quetta, which killed 73 people on August 8, as well as the Lahore Easter bombing that left 75 dead in what was the deadliest attack to hit the country this year.

Poor rescue arrangements
Sawab Khan, a resident of Anbar, who was brought to the Agency Headquarters Hospital (AHH) at Ghalanai in the Mohmand tribal region with injuries, said he was offering prayers along with at least 200 other worshippers when he heard a shout of ‘Allahu Akbar’ followed by an explosion.

“There was blood everywhere [and] the verandah was destroyed,” he recalled.

Sawab Khan said most of the injured were waiting for vehicles to be taken to hospitals because there were no arrangements of transportation in the area.

Soft targets such as courts, schools and mosques are routinely attacked.

Read: At least 24 killed in suicide blast at Mohmand Agency mosque

The army launched an operation in June 2014 in a bid to wipe out militant bases in the tribal areas and so bring an end to the bloody insurgency that has cost thousands of civilian lives since 2004.

As a result, security in the country has since improved. Scattered attacks still take place, but they are fewer and of a lesser intensity than in previous years.

According to data from the South Asia Terrorism Portal, 457 civilians and 182 members of the security forces were killed in Pakistan from January 1 to September 11, putting 2016 on course for fewer casualties than 2015.

Last year, the country recorded its lowest number of killings since 2007.
http://www.dawn.com/news/1284337/curfew-in-mohmand-as-suicide-attack-death-toll-rises-to-30

 

[H!TchHiker]

Those of you who speak Pashtoo, here is the reality. Zarb-e-Azb this and Zar-e-Azb that.

This is the exact phenomena that Ashraf Ghani was referring to recently, that unless Pakistan join hands with Afghanistan and stops differentiating between good and bad talis, you will not be able to sustain this false illusion of let Afghanistan burn while we live in pace.

Of course Geo news is more interested in Karachi related news.

https://www.facebook.com/video.php?v=1213125662078981

let's be rationale Pakistan operation has reduced the terrorist Attock more than 70 percent.They are no targeting soft targets like hospitals and mosques .Some simple question when Pakistan started operation they told Afghanistan and NATO to seal the border so that no one cross the border but it does not happen why I don't know. Again if taliban cross the border why not the NATO and afghan forces launch a similar operation inside Afghanistan and with the help of Pakistan army close the border.TTP is in Afghanistan as we all know so why not a joint operation against TTP and then closed the border and similarly on other side.What Ashraf Ghani will gain now by talking of KP and Balochistan this was not expected of him

 

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By your logic in bold, you have just accepted that Pakistan is destabilizing Afghanistan, so if she has been doing it which you have accepted then why do you blame Afghans for standing up to you

Seal the border or not its your own decision, but please be a little honest, you cant have it both ways

Lets be honest here we all know since the inception of Pakistan, the only country to oppose Pakistan in UN was Afghanistan. They had this sorrow that People of KPK rejected getting merged with Afghanistan instead chose Pakistan. Afghanistan always tried to create problems in Baluchistan and KPK, we all very well know what your wet dreams are. Lol stone age Afghans think KPK and Baluchistan will merge with them. Remember you will always be a "Landlocked country"

I think Pakistan also deserves a right to do what is in the best interest for it. As what NDS and RAW are doing so yeah we will continue to play this game but on the other hand how shameful it is for you people that your refugees are still living in our country and not ready to go back to the very own land they belong to. Either way they will have to go, with each passing day every Pakistani is releasing that it was grave mistake to call you guys our "Brothers" you are nothing but neighbors that's it.

 

[A-Team]

So you are saying that Afghanistan wont act agaist the terrorists hiding and bein nourished in Afghanistan because they think Pakistan is not doing the same? isnt it classifying talibans as good and bad on your part?
I said "think" because the truth, though admitted reluctantly even by US is that Pak is making efforts as best as it could to handle all the terrorists. The operation zarb-e-azab was part of the process and is paying us back well. The terrorist activities have been reduced and peace is being restored. It will be a time taking process thanks to the safe havens inside afghanistan and the porous nature of the border. We are sharing our burden of making that border effective but will need some actual work being done on other side fir the things to improve. As you said, actions will speak louder than words. Ghani i always acknowledge is good at heart and understands that it will be a joint effort with Pakistan that will resolve this issue however he alone was not able to do much. The overwhelming pressure by Norther Alliance made him eat his own words and back track on number of "statements". That was a set back for the region.

The thing is, it is always easier to balme one's own failuers on others. Even if it means over looking the facts where are the areas that are being controlled by Talibans. Who runs to where is quite clear already and have been further brought to limelight after the recent offensive on our side of border. It is time everyone realizes that and start doing something to stop the flow of terrorists from Afghanistan into Pakistan. Unless that is acomplished, long lasting peace will be a dream and one operation will follow another. Perhaps that is why there is this lack of interest from Afghan side!

let me make it easy for you, instead of going back to the past, let's start right now right here.

1. You say we are supporting TTP, India and others to destabilize Pakistan.
2. We say that you are housing Haqqanis, Afghan Talis and others to destabilize Afghanistan.

let us start operations on both sides at the sametime, but also include China as we both trust her, China will act as a project manager if you will, who will see if one of us is not doing enough or lying.

We have offered this option to Pakistan and the Pakistani gov has rejected it, so not sure what else can the Afghan do

Lets be honest here we all know since the inception of Pakistan, the only country to oppose Pakistan in UN was Afghanistan. They had this sorrow that People of KPK rejected getting merged with Afghanistan instead chose Pakistan. Afghanistan always tried to create problems in Baluchistan and KPK, we all very well know what your wet dreams are. Lol stone age Afghans think KPK and Baluchistan will merge with them. Remember you will always be a "Landlocked country"

I think Pakistan also deserves a right to do what is in the best interest for it. As what NDS and RAW are doing so yeah we will continue to play this game but on the other hand how shameful it is for you people that your refugees are still living in our country and not ready to go back to the very own land they belong to. Either way they will have to go, with each passing day every Pakistani is releasing that it was grave mistake to call you guys our "Brothers" you are nothing but neighbors that's it.

let me make it easy for you, instead of going back to the past, lets start right now right here.

1. You say we are supporting TTP, India and others to destabilize Pakistan.
2. We say that you are housing Haqqanis, Afghan Talis and others to destabilize Afghanistan.

let us start operations on both sides at the sametime, but also include China as we both trust her, China will act as a project manager if you will, who will see if one of us is not doing enough or lying.

We have offered this option to Pakistan and the Pakistani gov has rejectted, so not sure what else can the Afghan do

 

[Kabira]

We have offered this option to Pakistan and the Pakistani gov has rejectted, so not sure what else can the Afghan do

Afghanistan first need to accept durrand line. Since Taliban government is only one who have been somewhat pro Pakistan its unlikely Pakistan will go to that extent against Taliban when Afghanistan is actively trying to destabilise Pakistan with help of India.

 

[A-Team]

Afghanistan first need to accept durrand line. Since Taliban government is only one who have been somewhat pro Pakistan its unlikely Pakistan will go to that extent against Taliban when Afghanistan is actively trying to destabilise Pakistan with help of India.

You see my friend, you are now moving the goal post

first you complain about TTP, BLA etc, when we offer that let China supervise it and lets go against TTP, BLA and Afghan Talis at the same time, you then mark Afghan Talis as pro Pakistan.

Put yourself in my shoes for once and see how this logic stands.

@Arsalan : you see my friend, this is the kind of confused messaging that is coming from Pakistan, thus you guys need to decide which side do you stand?

 

[AshishDelhi]

You realize that so-called Pakistani proxies couldn't run back to Pakistan IF YOU MONITORED YOUR BORDER, Instead the Afghan govt has no control of certain bordering regions and just thinks that terrorists are coming from Pakistan when in reality they are homegrown and coming from various rural areas. Its hardly our fault that your security is so incompetent that Taliban can somehow jet to Pakistan after every engagement.

Come out of this silly mentality and look at the facts, Pakistan is not interested in destabilising Afghanistan, we have 3 million of your refugees which we are trying to repatriate, destabilization would only lead to millions of more Afghans coming back, why would we want such a thing?



If Ghani was interested in having better relations with Pakistan, he wouldn't have been putting out stupid statements in the press every other day, time and time again Pakistan has offered an olive branch to Afghanistan. Its common knowledge that TTP resides in Afghanistan, when have you ever heard Nawaz Sharif go off on a tangent about Afghanistan sponsoring terrorism?

If you think that Ghani 'beant' over backwards for Pakistan then you are truly delusional. In your own words "actions speak louder than words"



So deal with it then, nothing has been done so far, and I don't see anything happening for a long time.

Same can be said about Pakistan. You blame Afghanistan and RAW but do not have control of your borders.

 

[cranwerkhan]

Those of you who speak Pashtoo, here is the reality. Zarb-e-Azb this and Zar-e-Azb that.

This is the exact phenomena that Ashraf Ghani was referring to recently, that unless Pakistan join hands with Afghanistan and stops differentiating between good and bad talis, you will not be able to sustain this false illusion of let Afghanistan burn while we live in pace.

Of course Geo news is more interested in Karachi related news.

https://www.facebook.com/video.php?v=1213125662078981

i listen all they dnt say curfew they were stop due to security reason

 

[HttpError]

let me make it easy for you, instead of going back to the past, let's start right now right here.

1. You say we are supporting TTP, India and others to destabilize Pakistan.
2. We say that you are housing Haqqanis, Afghan Talis and others to destabilize Afghanistan.

let us start operations on both sides at the sametime, but also include China as we both trust her, China will act as a project manager if you will, who will see if one of us is not doing enough or lying.

We have offered this option to Pakistan and the Pakistani gov has rejected it, so not sure what else can the Afghan do




let me make it easy for you, instead of going back to the past, lets start right now right here.

1. You say we are supporting TTP, India and others to destabilize Pakistan.
2. We say that you are housing Haqqanis, Afghan Talis and others to destabilize Afghanistan.

let us start operations on both sides at the sametime, but also include China as we both trust her, China will act as a project manager if you will, who will see if one of us is not doing enough or lying.

We have offered this option to Pakistan and the Pakistani gov has rejectted, so not sure what else can the Afghan do

I think given the nature of mistrust both countries have developed, especially due to certain elements in Afghan government it may not be possible. Instead of complaining to each other I think the best is to simple go for a divorce ( Sending Back all refugees + Sealing the border with better border management). Since Ghani has already stated they can use Chabahar, so I think we should say good luck to them and let them deal with Iran.