Curbing militancy: Turkey wants to work with Bangladesh

[Ideas_R_Bulletproof]

I would not say 'must'. We have no dependency in anything with Turkey.They are a faraway country.They may become a source of military hardware in future.But China, Russia will remain far far dominant military supplier of BD in foreseeable future.Bilateral trade is now around 1 billion dollar which can be increase in future.That's it.So,good relation is good but neither country will loose anything substantial if there is no good relation.

well, I would look at it from a broader perspective....
point one, just as you've said that Turkey is a faraway country, it can also be said of the US and EU.... and why not even Russia?.... so, does that mean that we should have the closest relationship with India?..... probably not.... so, distance is not really an issue....

point two, if the Russian Federation collapses on its own weight due to socioeconomic stress, would we still depend on Russia for our military hardware?..... probably not.... so, there is no permanency in relationship with anyone unless someone pledges allegiance to Bangladesh's thinking....

the issue is, geopolitical understanding based on basic thoughts should determine relationships among nations, not economic, military or any other backup.... Bangladesh is no longer an insignificant country.... its footsteps are heard all over the globe.... so, we have to have interaction with anyone that we need to....

Turkey is very important to us.
1. One of the biggest importer of our goods.
2. They are always supportive in international arena.
3. We have historical ties since Bengal sultanate.
4. One of the few countries which we are negotiating on free trade.
5. We source some of the military hardware from them.

good points....
perhaps geopolitical realities can give this list a fulfillment...

 

[Secret Service]

Turkey is very important to us.
1. One of the biggest importer of our goods.
2. They are always supportive in international arena.
3. We have historical ties since Bengal sultanate.
4. One of the few countries which we are negotiating on free trade.
5. We source some of the military hardware from them.

i think Bangladesh should welcome the Turks. good for trade and military alliance

 

[riasat]

Turkey is very important to us.
1. One of the biggest importer of our goods.
2. They are always supportive in international arena.
3. We have historical ties since Bengal sultanate.
4. One of the few countries which we are negotiating on free trade.
5. We source some of the military hardware from them.

1/ How is Turkey one of the biggest importer of our goods?
US and EU are the two largest importers. Turkey is probably somewhere in the middle if you make a list of all the countries we trade with.
I am not saying we should stop trades with turkey or it does not matter but it has nothing to do with any how turkey can help us fight extremism. The topic here is help from Turkey in regards to fighting terrorism which we do not need.

2/Turkey is supportive of Jamaat and Muslim brotherhood. Sorry but that is not what Bangladesh is all about.

3/ We do have historical ties and we will strengthen those further when a leader like Ataturk (or any secular person) comes along.

4/ There are no free trade agreement currently in place. I am not even sure what the cost and benefit of such an agreement would mean.

5/ They are again no where near the top exporters of arms in BD.

 

[Homo Sapiens]

1/ How is Turkey one of the biggest importer of our goods?
US and EU are the two largest importers. Turkey is probably somewhere in the middle if you make a list of all the countries we trade with.
I am not saying we should stop trades with turkey or it does not matter but it has nothing to do with any how turkey can help us fight extremism. The topic here is help from Turkey in regards to fighting terrorism which we do not need.

2/Turkey is supportive of Jamaat and Muslim brotherhood. Sorry but that is not what Bangladesh is all about.

3/ We do have historical ties and we will strengthen those further when a leader like Ataturk (or any secular person) comes along.

4/ There are no free trade agreement currently in place. I am not even sure what the cost and benefit of such an agreement would mean.

5/ They are again no where near the top exporters of arms in BD.

True.Turkey have lost face with a lot of countries.Perhaps other than Pakistan,no other country trust or admire Erdogan led Turkey now.They have became unpredictable and restless in geopolitical relationship. Erdogan is jumping more than he can handle.They are creating enemy everywhere.Worst he is making enemy out of countries which propped up Turkey all those years and retain leverage to throw it down to the drain.Six months ago, Putin was arch enemy,now he is a dictator-in -brother.He created quarrel with Israel several years ago to become the street hero in the Arab world,now he is again embracing those ''killer zionist''.No more savior of the ''oppressed Palestinian''. Erdogan have forgotten the size of his country(18th largest economy) and trying to act as a new boss of the muslim world and bully the neighboring countries.Not to mention his love affairs with terrorist/genocidal muslim leaders and organization around the world.From Sudan's Omer al Bashir to Golam Azam/Nizami to Muslim Brotherhood to ISIS. So we need to be careful.If we give them chance they will start meddling in our affairs.

 

[Michael Corleone]

1/ How is Turkey one of the biggest importer of our goods?
US and EU are the two largest importers. Turkey is probably somewhere in the middle if you make a list of all the countries we trade with.
I am not saying we should stop trades with turkey or it does not matter but it has nothing to do with any how turkey can help us fight extremism. The topic here is help from Turkey in regards to fighting terrorism which we do not need.

2/Turkey is supportive of Jamaat and Muslim brotherhood. Sorry but that is not what Bangladesh is all about.

3/ We do have historical ties and we will strengthen those further when a leader like Ataturk (or any secular person) comes along.

4/ There are no free trade agreement currently in place. I am not even sure what the cost and benefit of such an agreement would mean.

5/ They are again no where near the top exporters of arms in BD.

erdogan doesnt represent the whole of turkey....


i am going to turkey this coming week for a vacation though :3

 

[Nilgiri]

Bangladesh does not need the help of Turkey to combat these extremists. We have been offered help from countries that posses a far more advanced defense capabilities (US, UK etc).

Unlike a lot of people here, I am not an ultra nationalist. If Bangladesh does something wrong I would be the first one to admit. In case of combating terrorism we deserve to take the moral high ground and for reasons already discussed. Of course due to position taken by Turkey, there are doubts about their intention.

Fair enough. But BD govt can officially work on this security cooperation with Turkey and put in the required checks and balances to limit where it may be sensitive (for the sake of optics, and continued valued economic relationship) given Erdogan/AKP intrusion into BD internal matters and perceived hypocrisy etc.

Yes you can rely more on guaranteed on the ground cooperation with US,UK,India...whoever else for counter-terrorism etc... no one is saying include at that level or displace there etc.

This is what BD govt is doing anyway it seems in the OP article. SHW is pragmatic lady. Lets wait and see what happens.

Well I love food so I will make sure I go to the place you recommended. yes Istanbul

Please take a few pictures and post here if you can

I would like to see what has changed/stay same since I was last there quite a few years back.

Turkish people are such nice people, very hospitable I found...and nice looking women and waterfront/weather in Istanbul....and of course the cultural treasures that need no introduction. Its like a modernised fairytale hehe.

 

[Ideas_R_Bulletproof]

well they say taste is an acquired preference for a reason.

I was just wondering how relevant the discussion of Ukrainian/Turkish women is to this thread....

I'm sure we're not talking about "that kind of" tourism (you know what I mean) when we started talking about relationship with Turkey or Ukraine or any other state....

 

[Ideas_R_Bulletproof]

well you thought of it in a wrong way.... you're giving me the impression that you have a dirty mind.... lol

this discussion is geopolitically too important to lose direction....
plz remember whose purpose that lost direction serves....

 

[Baybars Han]

GDP more than tripled 1985-2002 . Erdogan has no economic success nothing. In 15 years nothing special. 2002-2017 is infact worse than previous 15 years.

 

[Michael Corleone]

this discussion is geopolitically too important to lose direction....
plz remember whose purpose that lost direction serves....

turkey is like our brothers... we supported their independence... they supported ours... end of the day... who cares about people like erdogan... cooperating in these things will be better for us both... you get to learn from each other

 

[Ideas_R_Bulletproof]

turkey is like our brothers... we supported their independence... they supported ours... end of the day... who cares about people like erdogan... cooperating in these things will be better for us both... you get to learn from each other

thats it.... its not the individuals that matter....
Bangladesh's closeness with Turkey is a win-win both countries.... and it introduces a new geopolitical game that was not there in the Indian Ocean for a loooong time....

 

[KediKesenFare3]

Your a comar. English speakers dont know what that means, but its a typical braindead villager.

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GDP more than tripled 1985-2002 . Erdogan has no economic success nothing. In 15 years nothing special. 2002-2017 is infact worse than previous 15 years.

Just be quiet.

Your a comar. English speakers dont know what that means, but its a typical braindead villager.

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GDP more than tripled 1985-2002 . Erdogan has no economic success nothing. In 15 years nothing special. 2002-2017 is infact worse than previous 15 years.

Just be quiet.

I posted the full diagram to show his success from a historical point of view whereas you just posted a specific section. Btw, during that time Turgut Özal who's practically Erdoğan's ideological father implemented a neoliberal economy policy. In other words: another successful religious and conservative politician whose work you try to use against Erdoğan. Pathetic and illogical.

To understand why Erdoğan is so popular and why people are celebrating his economic reforms read this:

https://economics.rabobank.com/publications/2013/september/the-turkish-2000-01-banking-crisis/

 

[Baybars Han]

Who is the mod thst keeps deleting my posts?

Has zulk become a secret mod or what?

 

[Nilgiri]

Who is the mod thst keeps deleting my posts?

Has zulk become a secret mod or what?

Got a whole bunch of mine deleted as well for being off-topic. Was it part of that conversation for you?