Culture wars: Pakistan to demand 4,500 old artefact back from India

[coffee_cup]

right, if china had it they would say please keep it and we will give some more!
Pakistan can claim whatever it wants but ancient culture & heritage belongs to India and world recognizes it as well.
Ancient customs & tradition which is passed on through ages is followed by Indians.

If Egypt gives some ancient Pharao relic as a gift to her friends like say UK, USA etc. that would be fine. A friendly gesture to share and protect ancient relics.

But if someone steals it from Egypt and displays it as their own, Egypt has a right to get it back.

So there goes your China and India analogy.

 

[manojb]

What happens if India does not give back the artifacts?

Pakistan will go UN

 

[Athen]

You guys destroyed temples with hundreds of years of history, you ain't getting anything more!!

 

[dray]

Wrong.

You can keep believing in your stereotypes, whereas our Museums in Taxila, Harappa, Mohenjo Daro, Lahore Karachi thrive.

And just stop laying claims on other people's civilizations, it makes a mockery out of Indians. You have nothing to do with Indus Valley, Ghandara, Egyptian, Inca civilizations.

That's why I asked Pakistanis to read Mahabharata, Dhritarashtra's wife Gandhari was the princes of which state? And as I told you earlier, the 51 Shaktipithas of our goddess Parvati spread from modern day Pakistan to Assam in the east. Goddess Parvati and Lord Shiva were worshipped by the people of IVC, that is us. And those archeological artifacts prove it.

 

[Mentee]

If they were so concerned about their customs and traditions they would celebrate diwali or holi just like Iranis celebrate Nowruz even though it was a Zoroasterian celebration and they are muslim now.

Nice try diva! Holi and divali are south Indian Hindu practices nit culture ones.btw What has a Punjabi or Sindhi got to do with it. Besides, Punjabi celebrate their equivalent of noroz cultural festival, Visaakhi

 

[Indika]

That's why I asked Pakistanis to read Mahabharata, Dhritarashtra's wife Gandhari was the princes of which state? And as I told you earlier, the 51 Shaktipithas of our goddess Parvati spread from modern day Pakistan to Assam in the east. Goddess Parvati and Lord Shiva were worshipped by the people of IVC, that is us. And those archeological artifacts prove it.

Sari is a good example of who follows the tradition/culture and who gets to inherit the claim.

In the history of Indian clothing the sari is traced back to the Indus Valley Civilisation, which flourished during 2800–1800 BC around the northwestern part of the Indian subcontinent.[4][5][6] Cotton was first cultivated and woven in Indian subcontinent around 5th millennium BC.[14] Dyes used during this period are still in use, particularly indigo, lac, red madder and turmeric.[15] Silk was woven around 2450 BC and 2000 BC.[16][17] The earliest known depiction of the sari in the Indian subcontinent is the statue of an Indus Valley priest wearing a drape.[4][5][6]

 

[Djinn]

Besides, those artifacts are supposed to be unislamic and contrary to Pakistani culture.

Speaking of religious connection, does Taj Mahul ring any bells?

 

[dray]

A friendly gesture to share and protect ancient relics.

Yes, we want to protect it, so can't give it to a country that might find it unislamic and destroyable.

 

[coffee_cup]

That's why I asked Pakistanis to read Mahabharata, Dhritarashtra's wife Gandhari was the princes of which state? And as I told you earlier, the 51 Shaktipithas of our goddess Parvati spread from modern day Pakistan to Assam in the east. Goddess Parvati and Lord Shiva were worshipped by the people of IVC, that is us. And those archeological artifacts prove it.

I don't have to read Hindu mythology.

My grand grand grand grand grand parents were Hindus and something else before that and they built nurtured these great civilizations. Just like Egyptian and Semites were something else before they were Jews, Christians, Muslims etc.

Now some people thousands of miles across come here and start laying claims on that, just like some of them are doing for Egyptian and Inca civilizations (because some of their mythologies say that and they "believe" in it).

What do we call such vultures? **** off!

Yes, we want to protect it, so can't give it to a country that might find it unislamic and destroyable.

You are our enemey and you have stolen it from us.

We want it back.

 

[dray]

Speaking of religious connection, does Taj Mahul ring any bells?

Tajmahal is a part of Indian history, but it is not a part of ancient Indian civilization, nor we claim it to be so.

 

[Indika]

Speaking of religious connection, does Taj Mahul ring any bells?

Taj mahal is just one of the monuments in India. India is home to several religions and culture. First mosque in south asia is in India not even pakistan. India like a sponge has absorbed every thing from parsis to Christianity. We are not disowning any thing per se.

 

[Djinn]

You guys destroyed temples with hundreds of years of history, you ain't getting anything more!!

And you destroyed Mosques, Churches and Gurdwara's. You people are no better.

 

[Śakra]

Nice try diva! Holi and divali are south Indian Hindu practices nit culture ones.

Absolute lies. Hindus across the world celebrate Diwali in honor of the return of Lord Rama, his wife Sita and his brother Lakshmana from exile of 14 years after Rama defeated Ravana. To honor the return of Lord Rama, Sita and Lakshmana from Lanka and to illuminate their path, villagers light Diyas to celebrate the triumph of good over evil.

There is a symbolic legend to explain why Holi is celebrated as a festival of colours. The word "Holi" originates from "Holika", the evil sister of the demon king Hiranyakashipu. The festival itself is believed to have origins from the Prahladpuri Temple[17] of Multan in the Punjab region.[18] The original temple of Prahladpuri is said to have been built by Prahlada, Hiranyakashipu's son.[19]

Besides, Punjabi celebrate their equivalent of noroz cultural festival, Visaakhi

I've never seen a muslim Punjabi celebrate Visakhi.




The point still stands, if pakistanis are so concerned about customs and culture of their supposed ancestors, why don't you celebrate their celebrations?

Tajmahal is a part of Indian history, but it is not a part of ancient Indian civilization, nor we claim it to be so.

Nor do we define ourselves as the "Hindu Republic of India" so we have no problems accepting other religions as our own.

 

[Djinn]

Taj mahal is just one of the monuments in India. India is home to several religions and culture. First mosque in south asia is in India not even pakistan. India like a sponge has absorbed every thing from parsis to Christianity.

Quite lame excuses wont you agree. Hindu nationalism trumps all in India. My point was in reference to someone who dragged in religion and hence my valid point is indisputable. Rest i dont care two hoot about that ugly statue or that old rusty building. Art and History have never been my thing.

 

[coffee_cup]

Yes, we want to protect it, so can't give it to a country that might find it unislamic and destroyable.

Egyptians, be careful.

Don't let these fanatic Hindus visit your museums. They will steal some relics from there and will then want to "protect" it.

Thieves!

Pakistan has done the right thing to approach UNESCO to get it back.