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Cruise missile threat in Asia

they hv CM's with range more then 700km and we hv CM's with range of 300KM and in future it will be 1000+km once we get nirbhay. so it sure is a option. though it will bring death to pakistan as its CM's cant cover all of india while indian short range CM's would be enough for pakistan.

well 300 KM range is more than enof as all the bhramos launchers are mobile + all the targets in pakistan which have value are in region of 200 KMs max from indian border & soon the air launched hypersonick option is coming for now each MKI can carry one bhramos and the time bhramos takes to get to its target and the range it neads is still very good so we dont need a CM with more than 300 range in near future + we have quite a large inoventorry of airlaunched cruise missiles of russian , french and israeli origins as well so :cheers:
 
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well 300 KM range is more than enof as all the bhramos launchers are mobile + all the targets in pakistan which have value are in region of 200 KMs max from indian border & soon the air launched hypersonick option is coming for now each MKI can carry one bhramos and the time bhramos takes to get to its target and the range it neads is still very good so we dont need a CM with more than 300 range in near future + we have quite a large inoventorry of airlaunched cruise missiles of russian , french and israeli origins as well so :cheers:

i dont agree with bold part , we are not pakistan centric anymore, we hv china to think about and having long range CM's would help us to take out targets in pakistan from more deep indside india. so i m sure after getting nirbhay in inventory, armed forces will sure want CM's with more range.
 
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Please give me one logical answer. If Pakistan use nuke then whats left in India to answer Pakistan?. What a super duper logic he is talking about.

For that you can read about second strike capability and why countries try to deploy nuclear triad (especially SSBN and SLBM )
 
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For that you can read about second strike capability and why countries try to deploy nuclear triad (especially SSBN and SLBM )

I read that also but my question is that even that is applied what left in both countries?. Nuclear means destruction nothing else.
 
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I read that also but my question is that even that is applied what left in both countries?. Nuclear means destruction nothing else.

Offcourse , that is why it is called MAD - Mutually Assured Destruction .
 
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Thats why we chos no first use polisy.even for humanity we distroy all our chemicl wepons. But some one drop neuk on u and u stay calm just for humanity is not posible. And if pakistans neuclear bomb manage to touch the indian soil then u should khnow that no. of neuclear missiles are kept targeting to pakistan for 24 hrs/7days within no time they will destroy whole pakistan what they need is just PMs sign
 
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well bhramos is a reality and it can take on any pakistani target in matter of minutes + it cant be intersepted

while india is pushing very hard to counter pakistani missile threat with all its latest akqusitions in last decade point to this instead of going on for offensive wepons (onli bhrmos & agni series ) were given some serious input

now about the subsonik cruire missiles and ALCMs well we already have some classified russian and israeli hardware

the point is pakistan is niot an issue the bigger issue is china and for this decade all indian developments will be targeted towards china so my pakistani friends dont worry you wont be attacked first but if you do there wont be any pakistan left ....good luck

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Swami Guru Dutt of RSS Mandir.

First of all dont try to invade our homeland if u do then we will take steps necessary to make sure it not happen.
And if u think u can attack us then we will retaliate even massively with more then 200 deliveries across yr country. So by the time u will think of something like eliminating Pakistan there wont be any india left in the first place to do that.
 
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:omghaha:

Swami Guru Dutt of RSS Mandir.

First of all dont try to invade our homeland if u do then we will take steps necessary to make sure it not happen.
And if u think u can attack us then we will retaliate even massively with more then 200 deliveries across yr country. So by the time u will think of something like eliminating Pakistan there wont be any india left in the first place to do that.

he he he u cant do **** exept make a ferw intrusions and attack from behind and you never fight like a man (your army used tallibunies for this and results are in front of you & they are blowing themselfs up all over the pakistan )and last time you did that 93000 of your faujies and officers surrenderred to us ;)

now about sending us 200 gifts lolzzz do you realli think there wont be instant backlash as soon as we see a number of your missiles coming owr way well you can dream that but facts are way different than u ever imagined

he he he he if god forbid there is a neuklear war we indians will sureli loose a big portion of owr assets and population but there wont be any pakistan left on the face of the earth and good luck with your so called 200 gifts ;)
 
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submarine fitted with nuclear capable babur cruise missile is an effective alternate to ICBM?

two roads,,,,,same destination?

Its an interim measure until we feel the need and the money needed, to have an SLBM.
 
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In my humble opinion, I think Pakistan should launch over one hundred nuclear missiles all over India in one go and then sit tight and wait for their super duper, unimaginable, unmentionable, massive retaliation.

What do you say our Indian neighbours? You ready for the first strike?

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pass me the weed you are smoking bro.
 
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The Japan Times - News on Japan, Business News, Opinion, Sports, Entertainment and More
Cruise missile threat in Asia
BY MICHAEL RICHARDSON

SINGAPORE – Cruise missiles that are difficult to detect, increasingly fast and capable of carrying nuclear warheads are spreading, especially in Asia, complicating arms control and raising the risk of catastrophic conflict.

Until recently, most concerns have focused on the actual or potential spread of nuclear-tipped ballistic missiles in China, North Korea, India and Pakistan — the four Asian states known to have atomic arms. Ballistic missiles, launched by rocket engines, follow an arc-like trajectory, attaining hypersonic speeds on the downward leg of their guided journey towards a target.

Until now and probably for some time yet, all long-range ballistic missiles, with atomic warheads small enough to fit on them, are deployed exclusively for strategic nuclear deterrence. The five official nuclear weapon states — United States, Russia, China, Britain and France — use their long-range ballistic missiles, whether launched from land, air or sea, to deter possible attacks by other nuclear-armed nations.

Arms control treaties and agreements have tended to focus chiefly on ballistic missiles. However, another type of weapon, the cruise missile, is multiplying. It is proving to be even more difficult to control, partly because in many cases the same highly accurate missile is designed to carry either a conventional high explosive warhead or a nuclear warhead.

This dual role makes it impossible for a nuclear-armed nation facing a cruise missile attack against its territory or warships to know whether the incoming weapons are conventional or nuclear, an uncertainty that could trigger a nuclear response. Dual-role ballistic missiles of less than intercontinental range pose a similar problem.

The U.S. Air Force Global Strike Command reported last month that both China and North Korea were developing nuclear-capable cruise missiles. The U.S. and Russia lead the world with nuclear-capable cruise missiles, weapons launched from long-range bombers or submarines. But India and Pakistan are also developing such missiles. They each have several different types, with different ranges, in service or being flight tested.

Cruise missiles, powered by jet engines, travel low and fast over land or water, making them difficult to detect. They are also relatively small, compared to long-range ballistic missiles.

There are about 1,140 of the nuclear version of the U.S. AGM-86 air-launched cruise missile in America’s nuclear arsenal. In addition, there are about 460 nuclear-capable AGM-129A advanced cruise missiles. The U.S. Air Force says that the streamlined design of the AGM-129A, combined with radar-absorbing material and several other features, make it virtually impossible to detect on radar.

The range of the U.S. AGM-129 A is officially put at almost 3,220 km. However, the nuclear-ready version of Russia’s Raduga Kh-101 air-launched cruise missile, which is due to become operational this year, is designed to have a maximum flight distance of just over 9,650 km, which puts it in the range category of an intercontinental ballistic missile.

The new Chinese and North Korean cruise missiles appeared on a slide of an unclassified briefing given by Lt. Gen. James Kowalski, head of the U.S. Air Force Global Strike Command, on May 7. The slide shows nuclear weapon modernizations in eight of the world’s nine states known to have atomic arms. Only Israel is not shown.

The Chinese cruise missile is the CJ-20 carried by the long-range H-6 bomber. Hans Kristensen, a nuclear weapons specialist with the Federation of American Scientists, said the listing was the first he had seen in an official U.S. publication crediting a Chinese air-launched cruise missile with nuclear capability.

U.S. defense officials say that a Chinese extended range H-6 bomber using the CJ-20 in a land-attack operation could strike targets all over Asia and eastern Russia as well as the U.S. military base hub on Guam island, in the western Pacific. Two-thirds of Russian territory, east of the Ural mountains, is in Asia.

The nuclear-capable North Korean cruise missile listed on the briefing slide is the KN-09 for coastal defense. It reportedly has a range of just 100 to 120 km.

America’s AGM-86 nuclear-tipped cruise missiles travel at just over two-thirds the speed of sound.

Meanwhile, India is looking to its supersonic Brahmos cruise missile, a joint venture with Russia, as the key new weapon that will give it a strategic advantage over its neighbor and long-time rival, Pakistan. The Brahmos is the only known supersonic cruise missile system in service. Its designer, BrahMos Aerospace of Russia, says it travels at two to three times the speed of sound, or approximately one kilometer per second.

In October, India and Russia agreed to produce more than 1,000 Brahmos missiles for the Indian Air Force, Navy and Army. The two sides also decided to jointly develop a hypersonic version of the missile that would fly more than five times the speed of sound.

The Indian missile, which can be launched from the sea, air or land, has a range of about 300 km. It can carry a conventional or nuclear warhead. The high speed of India’s Brahmos cruise missile means it has the potential to carry out prompt strikes on extremist camps inside Pakistan, to be followed by a punitive invasion by the Indian armed forces.

Because India is so much bigger and stronger than Pakistan, the latter has developed short-range ballistic missiles with low-yield nuclear warheads to deter such attacks. Although still to be verified, Pakistan claims it has miniaturized nuclear warheads so that they will also fit on cruise missiles. India also says that its cruise missiles are nuclear-capable.

The short-warning time should either country use such weapons against the other means that escalation into an all-out nuclear exchange could result.

Shyam Saran, convener of India’s National Security Advisory Board, said in April that in a crisis with Pakistan, India would not be the first to use nuclear weapons. He warned that even if India was attacked with relatively small, or tactical, nuclear arms, it would “engage in nuclear retaliation that will be massive and designed to inflict unacceptable damage on its adversary.”

There is a wider warning here for Asian countries with tactical nuclear-tipped cruise or ballistic missiles in operation or planned. If ever used, such weapons could open a Pandora’s Box of horrendous consequences, proving that a limited nuclear war is a contradiction in terms.

Michael Richardson (mriht43@gmail.com) is a visiting senior research fellow at the Institute of South East Asian Studies in Singapore.
 
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