Crouching Tiger: The World At the Tip of a Chinese Spear

[Desertfalcon]

if we decide to attack first, we will make sure that the war will end as we wish and not as our enemies wish to be.

Like I said; there are dozens of threads on PDF with this kind same kind of nationalist rhetoric from Chinese poster after Chinese poster.

 

[+4vsgorillas-Apebane]

No, I do not. I think it more likely that a provocation will be manufactured by Beijing that will result in war, which would spiral out of control. And no, their goal is not to "conquer the world" but to dominate the SCS in particular and all it's countries and Asia in general.


Oh well, if it's a poll..........it must be true!



You're leaving out numerous countries more at the forefront, Vietnam, Philippines, etc., . It is China that has caused an arms race with the countries of the South China Sea, NOT America. It is China that is driving the military build-up of countries like Japan and South Korea. As for trade, America not only has trade with China, we are the biggest trading partner of China and vise versa but that has not stopped the Chinese from rapidly militarising the SCS or from provocatively placing military forces in disputed areas.

Funny man.

North America is half the world away and yet you make it look like China is the aggressor in their own neighborhood.

Whos the one who sailed an aircraft carrier through the Taiwan straights nack in 96? Whos the one with military bases in occupied Japan? Whos the one who fought on Chinese doorstep in Korea and Vietnam?

As Chinese strength grows, American influence in the region recedes but it is seen as Chinese aggression?

BTW, I seriously doubt that your countrymen will allow the USA to fight a war on behalf of japan or the Philippines over a territory half a world away.

Like I said; there are dozens of threads on PDF with this kind same kind of nationalist rhetoric from Chinese poster after Chinese poster.

Like I said; there are dozens of threads on PDF with this kind same kind of nationalist rhetoric from American poster after American poster.

 

[Desertfalcon]

And be sure to search through those threads and read of their utter disdain for their Asian neighbours and you will know what "enemies" they are talking about.

 

[PaklovesTurkiye]

You're leaving out numerous countries more at the forefront, Vietnam, Philippines, etc., . It is China that has caused an arms race with the countries of the South China Sea, NOT America. It is China that is driving the military build-up of countries like Japan and South Korea. As for trade, America not only has trade with China, we are the biggest trading partner of China and vise versa but that has not stopped the Chinese from rapidly militarising the SCS or from provocatively placing military forces in disputed areas.

I respect your opinion but i will like to disagree. What if i say that China is building up its military due to hostile US attitude towards its interests. What if i say that China is flexing its muscle due to US military bases Close to China? US Base in Japan? Will US be happy if Chinese or Russian navy operates out of Alaska in pretext of something? Its always a cycle, prompting things to happen due to some past events.

The impression we get from western media is that all east asian countries are aligned together against big bad boy China, which many people think, is incorrect. Just look how dispute/contrary claims each country have on South China Sea, Indonesia continues to explode boats of other neighbor countries due to this. It is not that simple as people like to think. Countries in East Asia won't even get along with each other regarding SCS and Americans are hoping to put them against China?

I don't buy Chinese villain story of western media....

 

[Desertfalcon]

I respect your opinion but i will like to disagree. What if i say that China is building up its military due to hostile US attitude towards its interests.

Then you will be hard pressed to explain if that is the case, why China's Asian neighbours are rapidly building up their armed forces due directly to the threat of Chinese expansion. There are literally, dozens and dozens of articles and statements by Asian government officials and links available on-line that state exactly that.

 

[Kiss_of_the_Dragon]

Like I said; there are dozens of threads on PDF with this kind same kind of nationalist rhetoric from Chinese poster after Chinese poster.

Same question will get the same answer, there is dozen of threads on PDF that you Americans nationalists like you to start with "IF CHINA ATTACK FIRST" scenario...LMAO

 

[Daniel808]

You're leaving out numerous countries more at the forefront, Vietnam, Philippines, etc., . It is China that has caused an arms race with the countries of the South China Sea, NOT America. It is China that is driving the military build-up of countries like Japan and South Korea. As for trade, America not only has trade with China, we are the biggest trading partner of China and vise versa but that has not stopped the Chinese from rapidly militarising the SCS or from provocatively placing military forces in disputed areas.

In Recent Days, Asian Economy is Increasing. So, It's Normal for them to Spend more in Defence Expenditure.
But, you Blame China for all of that? How funny your Logic is

And Why you bring South korea in here.
They are Expanding, their Military because North Korean Nuclear threat, not because China "Threat"

My South Korean friend ever said, South Korean Problems is 25% North Korea, and 75% Japan.
They are really hate Japan much more, than their Northern brothers (North Korea).

 

[PaklovesTurkiye]

Then you will be hard pressed to explain if that is the case, why China's Asian neighbours are rapidly building up their armed forces due directly to the threat of Chinese expansion. There are literally, dozens and dozens of articles and statements by Asian government officials and links available on-line that state exactly that.

So its all comes down to who has more power and will to do. China is expanding because she wants and can. US is policing the world because she can and want. A rule, might is right...Isn't it? I don't know much about SCS, so i won't criticize any country but situation is much complex than simply shifting all blame to one country and then make it out of a villain.

Dear sir, I m not denying that countries over there are not doubtful of China's policies but why do you think that the military build up, countries are having, will be exercised against China. What if they exercises on each other due to disputes they are having on SCS. As i said, there are lot of countries whom claim on SCS overlaps the others' claim. China is just a party in it, A BIG ONE, due to its man power and economy, among all other stakeholders in SCS.

 

[Nan Yang]

Then you will be hard pressed to explain if that is the case, why China's Asian neighbours are rapidly building up their armed forces due directly to the threat of Chinese expansion. There are literally, dozens and dozens of articles and statements by Asian government officials and links available on-line that state exactly that.

Not entirely true. Example ...Singapore maintain military advantage is not because of China. But because of Malaysia and Indonesia. I do not blame you if you do not know but every body who live in SEA knows that.

Thailand, Burma, Cambodia, Laos all buys military equipment from China. Again if you do not know that I do not blame you.

Thailand and Cambodia are actually shooting at each other because of a ancient temple. Again if you do not know that I do not blame you.

Philippines shot and killed a Taiwanese fisherman. Philippines also claim the entire state of Sabah from Malaysia. Again if you do not know that I do not blame you.

 

[beijingwalker]

Chinese are giving us a fair idea about how Nazis in Hitler's Germany were, Hitler wanted to conquer Europe, Chinese have similar ambition for Asia.

What about America?

 

[yantong1980]

desrtfalcon: what a troll

rainman: clueless expert?

 

[Desertfalcon]

In Recent Days, Asian Economy is Increasing. So, It's Normal for them to Spend more in Defence Expenditure.
But, you Blame China for all of that? How funny your Logic is

w.cnbc.com/2015/05/21/asia-defense-spending-new-arms-race-in-south-china-sea.html

http://www.wsj.com/articles/chinese...s-fuel-asian-arms-race-studies-say-1456095661

http://nationalinterest.org/blog/the-buzz/asias-lethal-naval-arms-race-13249

Among dozens of other reports.

And Why you bring South korea in here.
They are Expanding, their Military because North Korean Nuclear threat, not because China "Threat"

http://www.reuters.com/article/us-lockheed-aircraft-asia-idUSKCN0YR0QW

http://www.defensenews.com/story/de...s-warning-shots-chinese-patrol-boat/76988690/

...and Japan, Australia,...

http://atimes.com/2016/05/japans-east-china-sea-military-buildup-continues/

http://www.businessinsider.com/r-ja...nsion-making-the-world-greatly-worried-2016-4

http://www.scmp.com/news/asia/austr...stralia-beefing-military-it-looks-chinas-rise

Dozens and dozens just like these.

Not entirely true. Example ...Singapore maintain military advantage is not because of China. But because of Malaysia and Indonesia. I do not blame you if you do not know but every body who live in SEA knows that.

Apparently, Singapore doesn't know that either...

http://www.wsj.com/articles/singapo...tary-partnership-with-eye-on-china-1462519648

https://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2016/05/16/asmt-m16.html

 

[rott]

w.cnbc.com/2015/05/21/asia-defense-spending-new-arms-race-in-south-china-sea.html

http://www.wsj.com/articles/chinese...s-fuel-asian-arms-race-studies-say-1456095661

http://nationalinterest.org/blog/the-buzz/asias-lethal-naval-arms-race-13249

Among dozens of other reports.



http://www.reuters.com/article/us-lockheed-aircraft-asia-idUSKCN0YR0QW

http://www.defensenews.com/story/de...s-warning-shots-chinese-patrol-boat/76988690/

...and Japan, Australia,...

http://atimes.com/2016/05/japans-east-china-sea-military-buildup-continues/

http://www.businessinsider.com/r-ja...nsion-making-the-world-greatly-worried-2016-4

http://www.scmp.com/news/asia/austr...stralia-beefing-military-it-looks-chinas-rise

Dozens and dozens just like these.


Apparently, Singapore doesn't know that either...

http://www.wsj.com/articles/singapo...tary-partnership-with-eye-on-china-1462519648

https://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2016/05/16/asmt-m16.html

You surely must be 12.
So according to your logic it's fine with you if I pull out all the pro-China articles and claim US is the aggressor?
You're not a very bright yank, are you? I have my doubts you're one.

 

[Desertfalcon]

You surely must be 12.
So according to your logic it's fine with you if I pull out all the pro-China articles and claim US is the aggressor?
You're not a very bright yank, are you?

Bright enough. And no, not 12.

I have my doubts you're one.

Because of my pro-American position...........I must not be one? You lost me on that one.

 

[PaklovesTurkiye]

Chinese are giving us a fair idea about how Nazis in Hitler's Germany were, Hitler wanted to conquer Europe, Chinese have similar ambition for Asia.

Wow.....U have compared China with Hitlers Germany? Can i see your logic tree behind that? China will going to invade or have a plan against her Asian neighbors? What do you mean by conquer? through militarily? I just can't buy this shit. China won't be invading anyone anytime soon. Their patience is what makes them powerful not their military might. They are not war mongering nation unlike guys in America. China is big power, they earned the title and their interests should be respected. I know its hard for Americans to do that but they must do it and should accept that world is not uni polar anymore.

I must say why you guys don't come up with a Bollywood movie in which China as a villain, Pakistan being an partner (evil axis, you know) and you guys along with Captain America, coming, fighting and saving the whole world and bringing peace and harmony to the world.....