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Struggling with a crushing economic crisis that has cut government spending across the board, Greece’s military is seeing itself unable to keep pace with rival Turkey in armaments and preparedness.

The cuts have meant that Greek pilots have not been able to be as effective in preventing Turkish fighters from violating Greek air space, and the Navy is limited in trying to follow Turkish vessels that come into Greek territorial waters. Turkey’s expanding military is the second largest in NATO.

“The military isn’t just bleeding — it’s boiling,” Hellenic Navy officer Yannis Katsaroulis said in an interview with Germany’s Deutsche Well. Officials acknowledged that the Greek military, with a $7.5 billion budget in 2012, could not maintain its assets amid deep budget cuts.

They said the Hellenic Air Force could no longer fly many of its F-16 multi-role fighters because of a lack of spare parts and maintenance. The Hellenic Navy has also been forced to restrict operations amid a fuel shortage. The Hellenic Army has been unable to receive 400 U.S.-origin Abrams main battle tanks because it couldn’t afford to transport them from the United States. Military personnel have seen a 37 percent cut in their salaries.

Katsaroulis said Greek military officers warned Defense Minister Panos Panagiotopoulos of growing unrest. They said the budget cuts, which reached nearly 30 percent since 2010, were pushing many of the officers to vote for right-wing parties and with many officers leaving.

“We recently met with the defense minister to voice our anger about the cuts and one of us, a brigadier, piped up and said that we are all dead set on voting for (the far right-wing) Golden Dawn in the next elections,” he said. Katsaroulis added: “Don’t be surprised if tanks roll out onto the street and a military rebellion occurs. Everything is possible at this point.”

Other officers agreed. They said Greece, which spends more on defense than another other European Union member, could no longer compete with Turkey, which routinely enters air space and waters claimed by Athens. “Just the other day, a Turkish battleship strayed twice in Greek waters, and what did we do?” Yiorgos Glitsis, a retired submarine officer, recalled. “We chased it halfway through the Aegean with a ship half its size, like a dinghy.”

Glitsis, Greek military, Panos Panagiotopoulos, Yannis Katsaroulis

Crisis Leaves Greek Military Outgunned By Turkey | Greece.GreekReporter.com Latest News from Greece

this is huge opprtunity for turkiye we should enhance military relations with albania and macedonia therefore in the future greece may be a satelite state for turkiye :cheesy:
 
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Couldnt resist;

“Just the other day, a Turkish battleship strayed twice in Greek waters, and what did we do?” Yiorgos Glitsis, a retired submarine officer, recalled. “We chased it halfway through the Aegean with a ship half its size, like a DINGHY.”


:rofl::rofl::rofl:
 
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Couldnt resist;

“Just the other day, a Turkish battleship strayed twice in Greek waters, and what did we do?” Yiorgos Glitsis, a retired submarine officer, recalled. “We chased it halfway through the Aegean with a ship half its size, like a DINGHY.”


:rofl::rofl::rofl:

:rofl: :bunny:
 
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They have outspent themselves.

Rather than looking towards developing their economy, they went on a splurging spree.

And now they have no money.

Looking at the current situation, I have a feeling that this is exactly the same situation in which the Nazi Party rose to power in Germany: broken economy, rampant unemployment, dissatisfied and jobless youth, struggling pensioners, pesky and a very broke and limited military.

The Golden Dawn is sort of in the same position.
 
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Struggling with a crushing economic crisis that has cut government spending across the board, Greece’s military is seeing itself unable to keep pace with rival Turkey in armaments and preparedness.

The cuts have meant that Greek pilots have not been able to be as effective in preventing Turkish fighters from violating Greek air space, and the Navy is limited in trying to follow Turkish vessels that come into Greek territorial waters. Turkey’s expanding military is the second largest in NATO.

“The military isn’t just bleeding — it’s boiling,” Hellenic Navy officer Yannis Katsaroulis said in an interview with Germany’s Deutsche Well. Officials acknowledged that the Greek military, with a $7.5 billion budget in 2012, could not maintain its assets amid deep budget cuts.

They said the Hellenic Air Force could no longer fly many of its F-16 multi-role fighters because of a lack of spare parts and maintenance. The Hellenic Navy has also been forced to restrict operations amid a fuel shortage. The Hellenic Army has been unable to receive 400 U.S.-origin Abrams main battle tanks because it couldn’t afford to transport them from the United States. Military personnel have seen a 37 percent cut in their salaries.

Katsaroulis said Greek military officers warned Defense Minister Panos Panagiotopoulos of growing unrest. They said the budget cuts, which reached nearly 30 percent since 2010, were pushing many of the officers to vote for right-wing parties and with many officers leaving.

“We recently met with the defense minister to voice our anger about the cuts and one of us, a brigadier, piped up and said that we are all dead set on voting for (the far right-wing) Golden Dawn in the next elections,” he said. Katsaroulis added: “Don’t be surprised if tanks roll out onto the street and a military rebellion occurs. Everything is possible at this point.”

Other officers agreed. They said Greece, which spends more on defense than another other European Union member, could no longer compete with Turkey, which routinely enters air space and waters claimed by Athens. “Just the other day, a Turkish battleship strayed twice in Greek waters, and what did we do?” Yiorgos Glitsis, a retired submarine officer, recalled. “We chased it halfway through the Aegean with a ship half its size, like a dinghy.”

Glitsis, Greek military, Panos Panagiotopoulos, Yannis Katsaroulis

Crisis Leaves Greek Military Outgunned By Turkey | Greece.GreekReporter.com Latest News from Greece

this is huge opprtunity for turkiye we should enhance military relations with albania and macedonia therefore in the future greece may be a satelite state for turkiye :cheesy:

I think its the best time for Greece and Taiwan to sell their Mirage-2000s to India that are needed as IAF is facing severe shortage of planes. Also Greece could buy something else like AEW&Cs or like support in the military budget as their F-16s are enough to fulfill their needs and even sell the A-4s too.

For Taiwan it would be better to have some 100+ Rafaels from France....
 
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Tbh most Greeks I meet are simply lazy and brag about their heritage. Now their economy is in turmoil since they rather get the benefits from the state without paying taxes.
 
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Turkey will easily eat Greece for lunch with high state of military preparedness.. I do not like Greece.
 
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Greece has simply overspent itself, borrowing and borrowing... every European national points to them for the major role in the crises. Even Greeks hate what their governments did. Currently, Athens has gone so bad that most foreigners are advised to leave it as soon as they land.
 
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Either they submit to Turkey or we will bring them to their knees :coffee:


Struggling with a crushing economic crisis that has cut government spending across the board, Greece’s military is seeing itself unable to keep pace with rival Turkey in armaments and preparedness.

The cuts have meant that Greek pilots have not been able to be as effective in preventing Turkish fighters from violating Greek air space, and the Navy is limited in trying to follow Turkish vessels that come into Greek territorial waters. Turkey’s expanding military is the second largest in NATO.

“The military isn’t just bleeding — it’s boiling,” Hellenic Navy officer Yannis Katsaroulis said in an interview with Germany’s Deutsche Well. Officials acknowledged that the Greek military, with a $7.5 billion budget in 2012, could not maintain its assets amid deep budget cuts.

They said the Hellenic Air Force could no longer fly many of its F-16 multi-role fighters because of a lack of spare parts and maintenance. The Hellenic Navy has also been forced to restrict operations amid a fuel shortage. The Hellenic Army has been unable to receive 400 U.S.-origin Abrams main battle tanks because it couldn’t afford to transport them from the United States. Military personnel have seen a 37 percent cut in their salaries.

Katsaroulis said Greek military officers warned Defense Minister Panos Panagiotopoulos of growing unrest. They said the budget cuts, which reached nearly 30 percent since 2010, were pushing many of the officers to vote for right-wing parties and with many officers leaving.

“We recently met with the defense minister to voice our anger about the cuts and one of us, a brigadier, piped up and said that we are all dead set on voting for (the far right-wing) Golden Dawn in the next elections,” he said. Katsaroulis added: “Don’t be surprised if tanks roll out onto the street and a military rebellion occurs. Everything is possible at this point.”

Other officers agreed. They said Greece, which spends more on defense than another other European Union member, could no longer compete with Turkey, which routinely enters air space and waters claimed by Athens. “Just the other day, a Turkish battleship strayed twice in Greek waters, and what did we do?” Yiorgos Glitsis, a retired submarine officer, recalled. “We chased it halfway through the Aegean with a ship half its size, like a dinghy.”

Glitsis, Greek military, Panos Panagiotopoulos, Yannis Katsaroulis

Crisis Leaves Greek Military Outgunned By Turkey | Greece.GreekReporter.com Latest News from Greece

this is huge opprtunity for turkiye we should enhance military relations with albania and macedonia therefore in the future greece may be a satelite state for turkiye :cheesy:

Greece has simply overspent itself, borrowing and borrowing... every European national points to them for the major role in the crises. Even Greeks hate what their governments did. Currently, Athens has gone so bad that most foreigners are advised to leave it as soon as they land.

Happy Eid :)

Will India buy these Mirages? /: man I love the Rafael, we have been in talks with the French for a while to purchase 48 DRs, nothing came out yet.
I think its the best time for Greece and Taiwan to sell their Mirage-2000s to India that are needed as IAF is facing severe shortage of planes. Also Greece could buy something else like AEW&Cs or like support in the military budget as their F-16s are enough to fulfill their needs and even sell the A-4s too.

For Taiwan it would be better to have some 100+ Rafaels from France....
 
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Tbh most Greeks I meet are simply lazy and brag about their heritage. Now their economy is in turmoil since they rather get the benefits from the state without paying taxes.

Every Greek I met did the same :lol:
 
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Happy Eid :)

Will India buy these Mirages? /: man I love the Rafael, we have been in talks with the French for a while to purchase 48 DRs, nothing came out yet.

Eid Mubarak to you too..

And no I dont think India is getting the Mirages as they are flying more than the F-16s are. And Your AF is committed to the brits come hell or high water.
 
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They most certainly are comitted to the Eurofighter, but the DR is going to go to the RSNF. :azn:
Eid Mubarak to you too..

And no I dont think India is getting the Mirages as they are flying more than the F-16s are. And Your AF is committed to the brits come hell or high water.
 
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