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Creation of Bangladesh: Shining Moment or Strategic Blunder

Good old Sheru Thapilyal writing this.

He is otherwise a balanced chap.

Will ask him what made him write this, the next time I meet him.

Note who is the Editor - Bharat Verma!!
 
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Care to elaborate. Which Bangladeshi here except Al-zakir (who is actually Bihari and doesn't live in bangladesh) thinks themselves as Pakistani?

It's true that I reside in USA however I wasn't aware of my Bihari origin. Is it a barometer for you to measure your patriotism by cutting my throat when I am not looking? ;)

Pakistan is the third most hated country by Bangladeshis after israel and india. I showed it on pdf before voting result of over 5000 bangladeshis..

So I suppose those Bangladeshis would like to return the time and support given by Pakistani to rebuild our military since
71. To me those so called 1000 Bangladeshi either Bengali minded bigot or totally ehsaan Faramosh.

Do not deviate truth. We are an independent identity and proud of it.

Who stopping you. :tup:
 
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Good old Sheru Thapilyal writing this.

He is otherwise a balanced chap.

Will ask him what made him write this, the next time I meet him.

Note who is the Editor - Bharat Verma!!

All buddies of your I see. You must be someone big in the IA or RAW. Care to elaborate?
 
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I do not see any big friendship between IN and BD, precisely due to religious reasons. Every other post started by Indian members here always reference the "historic, barbaric, disgusting, violent" invasion by Central Asian thugs, who "forced" Islam (which is actually another word for Arabic culture) on the otherwise peaceful people in BD (which was otherwise had the "ancient Indian culture"). That is easily disproven and a stupid propaganda statement. However, since Indians will not give up making such statements I cannot see how they expect to be "friends" with Bangladeshis, who, even though we are not extremists, are proud of our Islamic identity. You cannot openly make anti-Islamic comments every other post and expect to accepted as friends by BDeshis.

And aside from that, there are millions of other Muslims, Iranians, Lebanese, Pakistani, Arabs, etc, who are very friendly to Bangladeshis precisely due to the shared Islamic identity. This acts as a "pull" factor, and the Indian curses act as a "push" factor, for BD to have better relations with the Islamic countries.

In the future BD-IN relations may be "good" (meaning the absence of any hostilities) , but Bangladeshis and Indians will never love each other. Then again, according to Indians there is no such thing as "brotherhood" and every country must look after its own interests only, in that case, relations would be like this anyway, if BD was also a secular country. So, in the end, nobody loses anything, except Islamic countries have better relations with each other. Which is the best thing that could happen, from our POV.
 
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brotherhood has great impact on our foreign relationship. For example Bangladesh is one of the six countries that supported turkish invasion to cyprus... I have my friends in armed forces. They are also religiously motivated. Just the problem is collusion of our bengali identity with the islamic one.. Our country is paying for this heavily since existence..
 
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It's true that I reside in USA however I wasn't aware of my Bihari origin. Is it a barometer for you to measure your patriotism by cutting my throat when I am not looking? ;)



So I suppose those Bangladeshis would like to return the time and support given by Pakistani to rebuild our military since
71. To me those so called 1000 Bangladeshi either Bengali minded bigot or totally ehsaan Faramosh.



Who stopping you. :tup:

Sorry i didnt mean to hurt you. Everyone used to say you are bihari and you never replied them. Anyway, My bad. It is true that Pakistan is trying to be friendly with us but it is also true that they committed genocide and rape. So this hatred is justified. It is even more justified cause being muslims they killed muslims. I can understand your ideology but please as a bangladeshi you should honour sacrifices made by our people...
 
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@BD friends..this entire episode is based on the fact that India want to fight a war with BD?????? Are you guys crazy? Make yourself clear that of course India is not aggressive to BD....it is simply a waste of time...If it is assumed that India is not aggressive to BD then why there is all bullshit that you guys will do everything to harm Indian interest????? You guys are another kind of confused liars who dont know what do you want.....At least learn something from Pakistani friends....They proud themselves with the fact that Pakistan is created for Muslim religion....But what abt you...you guys are neither a complete religious Islamist not a secular ..not a socialist too.....Come on man...again if you want to be a enemy of India ..come up front and be proud of your enmity with India like Pakistan does....But dont be a hypocrite....

I was going through the thread and BD guy has mentioned with bullet points...how to harm Indian interests....its so ridiculous that sometime one will feel irritated with this kind of attitude....What you guys think about your self....you guys will create problem and at most what will happen...India will loose comm frm NE and then you guys will occupy it/NE will gets separated???So what ...do you think that if BD facilitate separation of NE from India ...and then you guys can survive?????Man you are talking abt making friends with whole lot of world starting with Arab,Indonesia and so many countries.....Do you realize that BD is surrounded by 3 sides by India....??????? Sometimes couple of guys makes ridiculous argument....

Guys...this post if for very specific BD friends who has posted some points how to harm India...My statement is not for any respectable BD friends....
 
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@eastbengal: In international politics no one is afraid man...neither BD is afraid of India and the vice versa...But couple of your country men assertions about Pakistan makes others to feel like that ....
 
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I do not see any big friendship between IN and BD, precisely due to religious reasons. Every other post started by Indian members here always reference the "historic, barbaric, disgusting, violent" invasion by Central Asian thugs, who "forced" Islam (which is actually another word for Arabic culture) on the otherwise peaceful people in BD (which was otherwise had the "ancient Indian culture"). That is easily disproven and a stupid propaganda statement. However, since Indians will not give up making such statements I cannot see how they expect to be "friends" with Bangladeshis, who, even though we are not extremists, are proud of our Islamic identity. You cannot openly make anti-Islamic comments every other post and expect to accepted as friends by BDeshis.

And aside from that, there are millions of other Muslims, Iranians, Lebanese, Pakistani, Arabs, etc, who are very friendly to Bangladeshis precisely due to the shared Islamic identity. This acts as a "pull" factor, and the Indian curses act as a "push" factor, for BD to have better relations with the Islamic countries.

In the future BD-IN relations may be "good" (meaning the absence of any hostilities) , but Bangladeshis and Indians will never love each other. Then again, according to Indians there is no such thing as "brotherhood" and every country must look after its own interests only, in that case, relations would be like this anyway, if BD was also a secular country. So, in the end, nobody loses anything, except Islamic countries have better relations with each other. Which is the best thing that could happen, from our POV.

@lonelyone: I agree with you to some extent....India and BD may not be in love/friend with each other....I agree...in international diplomacy...no one loves with another country...And again if religion is a factor for love between the nations...then there will not be any fight between Iran-Iraq and Saudi Kingdom and Turkey Gov may not be sitting with USA on the basis of religion... Dont think that my argument is to gain any love of BD for Indian people..rather than that i am trying to find any rationale of your argument that religion should be the basis of love...

Again ..about Indian friends cursing to Muslim Invasion in out country..what is wrong with it...If you guys are so sensitive about your religious identity then what is wrong with the assertions about the Indian identity being demonized by the Outside Muslim rulers in my country for centuries.....I know that counter argument can be taken that this histroy book written by Indian author are all fabricated....but again if we keep on arguing like this then entire histroy book of this world is fabricated....No one is perect is history....

Coming to the point...If you guys are so proud of Islamic identity..then we are proud of Indian Identity...In the Indian identity we curse all the Muslim invaders but again we appreciate Muslim emperor like Akbar...We also curse all the fundamentalist political party starting from BJP-RSS to Islamic Fundamentalist organization too..If you guys want to build up the relationship based on a specfic thread that Why Indian bash Muslim people then you dont realize then there are more people in India who curse Hindu fundamentalist parties than any where else...So whay dont you take this aspect of Indian people's mindset into account??

Any way bottom line is friendship needs to be practiced with honest people values about it....
 
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It's true that I reside in USA however I wasn't aware of my Bihari origin. Is it a barometer for you to measure your patriotism by cutting my throat when I am not looking? ;)



So I suppose those Bangladeshis would like to return the time and support given by Pakistani to rebuild our military since
71.
To me those so called 1000 Bangladeshi either Bengali minded bigot or totally ehsaan Faramosh.



Who stopping you. :tup:

We dont have to return anything, they took most of our income before independence to build and develop west pakistan. Anyway, we paid them for their services to build our military.
 
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Has not this news been already posted before, which worth 21 pages..?!? Why are we banging our head over it again!


Cheers!!!
 
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Has not this news been already posted before, which worth 21 pages..?!? Why are we banging our head over it again!


Cheers!!!

Coz nothing much is happening in bangladesh and we have to keep ourselves entertained :rolleyes:
 
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Coz nothing much is happening in bangladesh and we have to keep ourselves entertained :rolleyes:

Also this article was re-released immediately after Manmohan Singh's visit to BD. What are the Indians trying to indicate but rehashing this article with some changes in the text? Basically it is blaming BD for the failure of the trip. It is necessary to counter such propaganda.
 
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Also this article was re-released immediately after Manmohan Singh's visit to BD. What are the Indians trying to indicate but rehashing this article with some changes in the text? Basically it is blaming BD for the failure of the trip. It is necessary to counter such propaganda.

Come on man, everyone knows that mamata ruined this trip. No point in blaming bd here
 
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